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[K_chile22]

What about JA to Houston? FVV+Eason+picks?

Not really interested in Ja. Would have to mold the entire offense to him when his production has been on decline already. His rim attempt rate has been steadily falling since his third season, where it was 43% of his shots to just 33% last year and 25% in the current small sample size. He's just too bad of a shooter for that to be happening

[Devilanche]

What about JA to Houston? FVV+Eason+picks?

Not really interested in Ja. Would have to mold the entire offense to him when his production has been on decline already. His rim attempt rate has been steadily falling since his third season, where it was 43% of his shots to just 33% last year and 25% in the current small sample size. He's just too bad of a shooter for that to be happening

Do you think he has regressed or no longer motivated for some reason?

He’s far from past prime age and seems unlikely to develop into a decent 3 point shooter so the dropoff based on his play style will be earlier than his peers.

[K_chile22]

What about JA to Houston? FVV+Eason+picks?

Not really interested in Ja. Would have to mold the entire offense to him when his production has been on decline already. His rim attempt rate has been steadily falling since his third season, where it was 43% of his shots to just 33% last year and 25% in the current small sample size. He's just too bad of a shooter for that to be happening

Do you think he has regressed or no longer motivated for some reason?

He’s far from past prime age and seems unlikely to develop into a decent 3 point shooter so the dropoff based on his play style will be earlier than his peers.

I think he's regressed physically bc if injuries and just seems to play with a different mindset now that he sees himself as this 1A scorer who needs to constantly be running pick and roll and threw a fit when he wasn't even though his teams offense was awesome last year until he got the coach fired

[Devilanche]

Not really interested in Ja. Would have to mold the entire offense to him when his production has been on decline already. His rim attempt rate has been steadily falling since his third season, where it was 43% of his shots to just 33% last year and 25% in the current small sample size. He's just too bad of a shooter for that to be happening

Do you think he has regressed or no longer motivated for some reason?

He’s far from past prime age and seems unlikely to develop into a decent 3 point shooter so the dropoff based on his play style will be earlier than his peers.

I think he's regressed physically bc if injuries and just seems to play with a different mindset now that he sees himself as this 1A scorer who needs to constantly be running pick and roll and threw a fit when he wasn't even though his teams offense was awesome last year until he got the coach fired

Tough to advocate trading for him as a fan if you believe his mindset has changed.

Edit - before anyone say anything that just meant that k_chile is unlikely to be a fan of trading for Ja. Doesn’t mean rest of Houston fans or rest of league believe the same.

[jbk1234]

Not really interested in Ja. Would have to mold the entire offense to him when his production has been on decline already. His rim attempt rate has been steadily falling since his third season, where it was 43% of his shots to just 33% last year and 25% in the current small sample size. He's just too bad of a shooter for that to be happening

Do you think he has regressed or no longer motivated for some reason?

He’s far from past prime age and seems unlikely to develop into a decent 3 point shooter so the dropoff based on his play style will be earlier than his peers.

I think he's regressed physically bc if injuries and just seems to play with a different mindset now that he sees himself as this 1A scorer who needs to constantly be running pick and roll and threw a fit when he wasn't even though his teams offense was awesome last year until he got the coach fired

What's changed is that the NBA stopped rewarding offensive players who launched themselves into paint defenders with trips to the free throw line. This season, they're actually letting some legitimatey illegal contact go. Some players adjust to that. Others do not.

[SkyHook]

Do you think he has regressed or no longer motivated for some reason?

He’s far from past prime age and seems unlikely to develop into a decent 3 point shooter so the dropoff based on his play style will be earlier than his peers.

I think he's regressed physically bc if injuries and just seems to play with a different mindset now that he sees himself as this 1A scorer who needs to constantly be running pick and roll and threw a fit when he wasn't even though his teams offense was awesome last year until he got the coach fired

What's changed is that the NBA stopped rewarding offensive players who launched themselves into paint defenders with trips to the free throw line. This season, they're actually letting some legitimatey illegal contact go. Some players adjust to that. Others do not.

A welcome change. I've long said that flopping on the offensive end is far more compromising to the integrity of the game than it is on the defensive end.

[Godaddycurse]

Do you think he has regressed or no longer motivated for some reason?

He’s far from past prime age and seems unlikely to develop into a decent 3 point shooter so the dropoff based on his play style will be earlier than his peers.

I think he's regressed physically bc if injuries and just seems to play with a different mindset now that he sees himself as this 1A scorer who needs to constantly be running pick and roll and threw a fit when he wasn't even though his teams offense was awesome last year until he got the coach fired

What's changed is that the NBA stopped rewarding offensive players who launched themselves into paint defenders with trips to the free throw line. This season, they're actually letting some legitimatey illegal contact go. Some players adjust to that. Others do not.

they always "change" for the first couple months then revert back to the norm after a while. time will tell if they stick with it this time

[jbk1234]

I think he's regressed physically bc if injuries and just seems to play with a different mindset now that he sees himself as this 1A scorer who needs to constantly be running pick and roll and threw a fit when he wasn't even though his teams offense was awesome last year until he got the coach fired

What's changed is that the NBA stopped rewarding offensive players who launched themselves into paint defenders with trips to the free throw line. This season, they're actually letting some legitimatey illegal contact go. Some players adjust to that. Others do not.

they always "change" for the first couple months then revert back to the norm after a while. time will tell if they stick with it this time

It's been years since offensive players were routinely rewarded for blatantly initiating contact. That's good for league, but bad for guys who managed to pad 5-7 points per game playing that way.

The NBA's stated reasoning for *letting teams play* is that the juxtaposition between the regular season and playoffs was too great last season. Now, the Hawks got 30+ free throws in the Cavs arena, and without Trae, last night so you're still going to see some fluctuations depending on the crew, but I don't know how the league reverses itself given its stated reasoning.

[JasonStern]

Looking around the league, the only thing close i can find is maybe Suggs or Jrue, and I don't necessarily love both of them.

Blazers are pretty in on Jrue. And he's close with Dame and publicly stated that he's excited to play with him, stemming from their Olympics stint. So, I'd imagine Jrue just expires then retires.

Now, any takers for Jeremie Grant's contract? Oh, come on! A simple "no" would have sufficed. You didn't have to close your browser window.

[theBigLip]

Looking around the league, the only thing close i can find is maybe Suggs or Jrue, and I don't necessarily love both of them.

Blazers are pretty in on Jrue. And he's close with Dame and publicly stated that he's excited to play with him, stemming from their Olympics stint. So, I'd imagine Jrue just expires then retires.

Now, any takers for Jeremie Grant's contract? Oh, come on! A simple "no" would have sufficed. You didn't have to close your browser window.

Anyone is tradeable. But what assets would Portland need to attach to Grant to move him?

[Blazinaway]

Looking around the league, the only thing close i can find is maybe Suggs or Jrue, and I don't necessarily love both of them.

Blazers are pretty in on Jrue. And he's close with Dame and publicly stated that he's excited to play with him, stemming from their Olympics stint. So, I'd imagine Jrue just expires then retires.

Now, any takers for Jeremie Grant's contract? Oh, come on! A simple "no" would have sufficed. You didn't have to close your browser window.

Anyone is tradeable. But what assets would Portland need to attach to Grant to move him?

If he keeps playing as well as he has to start the season, 25 games in, then maybe we don't have to add assets (or very little) to move him, maybe

[JHFVF07]

What about JA to Blazers with some help from Suns?

MEM sends: Ja Morant
MEM receives: Scoot, Jalen Green + Picks

POR sends: Scoot, Grant + Picks
POR receives Ja Morant

PHX sends: Jalen Green
PHX receives: J Grant.

POR buys low and try to get an allstar PG(beting on a change of airs doing good for Morant).

JA/Dame
Jrue/Sharpe
Deni
Camara
Clingan

MEM retools and PHX balances their roster. How many picks would be needed?

[jayjaysee]

maybe a poll? Maybe just a rant?

I don’t think so, as Nico cooking job probably can’t survive a tanking season.. But is Dallas tanking?

It sort of is the best short/long term solution for Dallas where you just let guys sit as much as they want this season and hope to add Brown or Peterson to Flagg/Lively and actually have a two time line set up?

Sort of would explain the lack of correcting roster issues, playing a rookie forward as point guard..

[JHFVF07]

maybe a poll? Maybe just a rant?

I don’t think so, as Nico cooking job probably can’t survive a tanking season.. But is Dallas tanking?

It sort of is the best short/long term solution for Dallas where you just let guys sit as much as they want this season and hope to add Brown or Peterson to Flagg/Lively and actually have a two time line set up?

Sort of would explain the lack of correcting roster issues, playing a rookie forward as point guard..

Nico wont do this, but if Dallas decided to tank, they have a lot of assets to turn into picks and young players.

[jayjaysee]

maybe a poll? Maybe just a rant?

I don’t think so, as Nico cooking job probably can’t survive a tanking season.. But is Dallas tanking?

It sort of is the best short/long term solution for Dallas where you just let guys sit as much as they want this season and hope to add Brown or Peterson to Flagg/Lively and actually have a two time line set up?

Sort of would explain the lack of correcting roster issues, playing a rookie forward as point guard..

Nico wont do this, but if Dallas decided to tank, they have a lot of assets to turn into picks and young players.

Yeah, they could end up with a decent asset surplus to retool next year around Flagg, Lively and the 2026 first..


I was just going with the idea that’s been tossed around (maybe only by me…but I can’t be alone) of tanking with the roster as is to go into next season as..

AD / Lively
PJ
Flagg / Naji
Peterson / Christie
Kyrie

Most likely - never a contender.. But is a two time line worth trying out..

[Godaddycurse]

maybe a poll? Maybe just a rant?

I don’t think so, as Nico cooking job probably can’t survive a tanking season.. But is Dallas tanking?

It sort of is the best short/long term solution for Dallas where you just let guys sit as much as they want this season and hope to add Brown or Peterson to Flagg/Lively and actually have a two time line set up?

Sort of would explain the lack of correcting roster issues, playing a rookie forward as point guard..

Nico wont do this, but if Dallas decided to tank, they have a lot of assets to turn into picks and young players.

Yeah, they could end up with a decent asset surplus to retool next year around Flagg, Lively and the 2026 first..


I was just going with the idea that’s been tossed around (maybe only by me…but I can’t be alone) of tanking with the roster as is to go into next season as..

AD / Lively
PJ
Flagg / Naji
Peterson / Christie
Kyrie

Most likely - never a contender.. But is a two time line worth trying out..

Dallas should try to dump salary to reset repeater tax if the plan is to take 1-2 years off

[brackdan70]

What is the value difference between Anfernee Simons and and Nic Claxton?
I’d assume Claxton has more value despite 3 years on the books and having a bad year last year. Just a more valuable position and skill set.
I am not sure what the value difference is though. Any thoughts.

[jayjaysee]

Nico wont do this, but if Dallas decided to tank, they have a lot of assets to turn into picks and young players.

Yeah, they could end up with a decent asset surplus to retool next year around Flagg, Lively and the 2026 first..


I was just going with the idea that’s been tossed around (maybe only by me…but I can’t be alone) of tanking with the roster as is to go into next season as..

AD / Lively
PJ
Flagg / Naji
Peterson / Christie
Kyrie

Most likely - never a contender.. But is a two time line worth trying out..

Dallas should try to dump salary to reset repeater tax if the plan is to take 1-2 years off

I don’t know what the plan actually is. Or if there is a plan that actually translates to real life..

But earlier in the offseason, I did upset some Mavs posters by suggesting Dallas should dump salary.

They can dump Gafford with one of Naji/Martin this season and then just dump Klay next offseason to clear that repeater tax.. and it’s looking like they should.

[tester551]

What about JA to Blazers with some help from Suns?

MEM sends: Ja Morant
MEM receives: Scoot, Jalen Green + Picks

POR sends: Scoot, Grant + Picks
POR receives Ja Morant

PHX sends: Jalen Green
PHX receives: J Grant.

POR buys low and try to get an allstar PG(beting on a change of airs doing good for Morant).

JA/Dame
Jrue/Sharpe
Deni
Camara
Clingan

MEM retools and PHX balances their roster. How many picks would be needed?

That would be a no from this Portland fan.

I am a bit intrigued by the thought of the Green/Grant swap. But Grant has been legitimately been playing good so far this season & I think Portland would miss his outside shooting too much with this type of trade.

[SkyHook]

What about JA to Blazers with some help from Suns?

MEM sends: Ja Morant
MEM receives: Scoot, Jalen Green + Picks

POR sends: Scoot, Grant + Picks
POR receives Ja Morant

PHX sends: Jalen Green
PHX receives: J Grant.

POR buys low and try to get an allstar PG(beting on a change of airs doing good for Morant).

JA/Dame
Jrue/Sharpe
Deni
Camara
Clingan

MEM retools and PHX balances their roster. How many picks would be needed?

That would be a no from this Portland fan.

I am a bit intrigued by the thought of the Green/Grant swap. But Grant has been legitimately been playing good so far this season & I think Portland would miss his outside shooting too much with this type of trade.

I mentioned in the GB game thread when the Blazers played the Jazz that though he's frequently maligned, Grant is fun to watch.