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Should we get rid of the veto system?

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Post#261 » by revprodeji » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:52 pm

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btw, i'm not vetoing the RJ-Minny deal, its a lot more fair since Fatoine's long deal goes to NJ


His deal has an out clause next summer. Thus, he is only a 2 year deal and a large expiring after this summer.

A MN fan would have known that.
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Post#262 » by zong » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:56 pm

revprodeji wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



His deal has an out clause next summer. Thus, he is only a 2 year deal and a large expiring after this summer.

A MN fan would have known that.


I see, thanks for pointing that out

...then why was Swift for Fatoine included, did Skorff not know that?
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Post#263 » by Klomp » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:58 pm

Probably not
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Post#264 » by roseorbust » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:37 pm

That's three vetoes right? I'm assuming what the mod say was a veto. I mean he said he destroyed the tem. I'm sorry for saying the word "screwed"
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Post#265 » by skorff26 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:20 pm

revprodeji wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



His deal has an out clause next summer. Thus, he is only a 2 year deal and a large expiring after this summer.

A MN fan would have known that.


yes i did know that, and for your information i'm a minnesota fan as well.

it's a game, and so many different teams are rebuilding, so i decided to have fun and try to build a team to compete right now. if the trades wouldn't have been vetoed i'd have Al, Brand, RJ with mccants (still had him in the first trade that got vetoed), thorton, gomes, telfair, miami's and boston's picks to get me a SG and PG... i could easily had a team that could compete with anyone in the league, but minnesota is rebuilding and since I decided not to rebuild all my trades must be crap then... that makes a lot of sense.
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Post#266 » by skorff26 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:23 pm

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yes i did know that, and for your information i'm a minnesota fan as well.

it's a game, and so many different teams are rebuilding, so i decided to have fun and try to build a team to compete right now. if the trades wouldn't have been vetoed i'd have Al, Brand, RJ with mccants (still had him in the first trade that got vetoed), thorton, gomes, telfair, miami's and boston's picks to get me a SG and PG... i could easily had a team that could compete with anyone in the league, but minnesota is rebuilding and since I decided not to rebuild all my trades must be crap then... that makes a lot of sense.


and if you don't believe me that i knew that walker's last 2 years are unguaranteed, you can ask the New Jersey GM since I pointed that out in the e-mails we sent each other negotiating, or you could have just looked at my roster page and i have it listed there as well.
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Post#267 » by sterncohen » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:54 pm

Requesting approval for the Denver-Seattle trade from two days ago (bottom of p. 18, top of p. 19) - thanks.
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Post#268 » by babyjax13 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:52 pm

The Wizards and Bucks have agreed to a trade:

Wizards trade/ Bucks recieve:
Antonio Daniels 5.8 million

Bucks trade/ Wizards recieve
Desmont Mason 5 million

5*1.25=6.25
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Post#269 » by Klomp » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:54 pm

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Post#270 » by babyjax13 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:55 pm

I think these vetos are just plain stupid. It worked in the last game because people weren't just throwing them around, so I voted to keep it, but after looking back to me it seems that it might be a bad idea. I think that you should get ony one veto, and even if the veto passes on a trade, you shouldn't get it back, that way your not vetoing a trade unless someone is really getting pounded. 3 vetos should still be all you need to stop a trade, but no one gets more than one veto. (btw, this works out to about 10 vetos).
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Post#271 » by bryant08 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:56 am

zong wrote:The Portland Trail Blazers and the Cleveland Cavaliers have come to an agreement on a minor deal.


Portland Trades:
Sergio Rodriguez
2008 Second Round Pick (belonging to Indiana or Phoenix, choice belonging to Indiana)
2010 Second Round Pick

Cleveland Trades:
Daniel Gibson

Trade ID #4488181

The reason for Portland to do this is to simply acquire an above-average PG who can shoot and defend next to to Brandon Roy. Sergio has shown glimpses of becoming a decent player and we wish him good luck in all his future endeavors.


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Post#272 » by skorff26 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:58 am

so is the RJ to Minnesota deal officially vetoed.
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Post#273 » by roseorbust » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:58 am

babyjax13 wrote:I think these vetos are just plain stupid. It worked in the last game because people weren't just throwing them around, so I voted to keep it, but after looking back to me it seems that it might be a bad idea. I think that you should get ony one veto, and even if the veto passes on a trade, you shouldn't get it back, that way your not vetoing a trade unless someone is really getting pounded. 3 vetos should still be all you need to stop a trade, but no one gets more than one veto. (btw, this works out to about 10 vetos).
This method is to extreme. The veto system is fine, I think that there are fine trades that are passing. I think both wolves trades being vetoed deserve them. Randy Foye and Brewer are worth way more then R.J. In the other trade, the clippers are getting the "chance" of a top 5 pick, and the "chance" of signing a bonified star. When they traded away one, and not to mention a good prospect in thornton. And the Twolves don't even need brand, they have a player who is a very similar player in Jefferson.
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Post#274 » by deviljets7 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:51 am

roseorbust wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

This method is to extreme. The veto system is fine, I think that there are fine trades that are passing. I think both wolves trades being vetoed deserve them. Randy Foye and Brewer are worth way more then R.J. In the other trade, the clippers are getting the "chance" of a top 5 pick, and the "chance" of signing a bonified star. When they traded away one, and not to mention a good prospect in thornton. And the Twolves don't even need brand, they have a player who is a very similar player in Jefferson.


I don't think you quite understand the point of the veto. Veto's are meant to prevent grossly unfair trades from happening. Just because YOU think it doesn't make sense for a team, doesn't mean it's unfair.
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Post#275 » by Teddy KGB » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:11 am

yeah srsly there are too many vetoes around.

One trade I think that definitely deserves a veto though is JO and Garcia for Blount, Haslem and other crap. I mean, really? Wtf?
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Post#276 » by zong » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:32 am

The Portland Trail Blazers and The Miami Heat have agreed on a trade.

Courtesy of The Oregonian


Portland Receives:

Ricky Davis
Smush Parker
Joel Anthony


Miami Receives:


Channing Frye
Jarrett Jack
Darius Miles

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4491775


The Trail Blazers felt the need to get rid of Darius Miles quickly so they can have more flexibility, although Ricky Davis and Smush Parker were acquired, the Oregonian quotes the Portland GM saying: "This trade was an absolute must for us, not only do we get rid of Darius Miles and his whopper of a contract, we can offer the expiring deals of Ricky Davis and Smush Parker to many teams around the league for some decent parts to fit into our puzzle"

That being said, Portland wishes the best of luck to the 3 departed Trail Blazers and the Miami Heat for their renewed and now improved chances at an attempt at making a run in the Eastern Conference.

The Oregonian quotes Head Coach Nate McMillan: "Wow, a lineup of two O'neals, Wade, Bibby, and now our former super subs, I'm glad we're in another conference, thats fore sure."

Calls to the Miami Heat GM were not immediately returned.
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Post#277 » by raptor95 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:42 am

ss_maverick wrote:yeah srsly there are too many vetoes around.

One trade I think that definitely deserves a veto though is JO and Garcia for Blount, Haslem and other crap. I mean, really? Wtf?


I am rebuilding, I got Miami's 2008 1st round pick and Haslem is alot cheaper,younger then JO, George comes off the books and well I had to takeback Blount to match up salleries

the Pick was the main incentive here, I guess rebuilding
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Post#278 » by dunkonu21 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:46 am

Miami can't trade the Miami's pick. It is possibly going to the Wolves this year.
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Post#279 » by raptor95 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:51 am

dunkonu21 wrote:Miami can't trade the Miami's pick. It is possibly going to the Wolves this year.


It is lottery protected.
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Post#280 » by dunkonu21 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:54 am

You can't trade it until you know that Minny isn't getting it.

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