Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 5.0

[pcbothwel]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

Several league personnel view Washington as a favorite to land Grant. He hails from the D.C. area, his father Harvey played for the franchise from 1988-93 and again from 1996-98. The Wizards' first-year head coach Wes Unseld Jr. also coached Grant as an assistant with the Nuggets.

Jerami Grant for Davis Bertans, Rui Hachimura and Top 8 Protected 2022 Wizards 1st (2023 - Top 4 / 2025 - Top 4 / 2026 - Unprotected)?

We cant trade our 1st for the next half decade. I would do Bertans + Rui, but I wouldnt be excited about it. Not impressed by Grant at all. Doesnt Create, rebound, or score efficiently. His defense flashes, but is inconsistent. I only do this to get off Bertans contract.

[Dadouv47]

It probably will have to be revisited at the trade deadline to see how the west has changed.
Ie is clippers still likely to make the play in then.

I would probably try to ask for the LAC second in 2022 as well a pick within 30-40 in exchange for giving up a pick that’s likely to be between 11-20 right now but should be 5-10 minimum if LAC tanks .

No way I would consider this. This is bad for OKC for two reasons:
1. we need to draft talent and we have enough future picks
2. It gives the Clippers a chance to improve their roster for the future (developing a decent prospect or trading a top 15 pick for value later) which huts our future picks in 2024-2026. LAC already doing a terrific job btw at drating and developing young prospects.

If you have that philosophy, not to help them improve their team, then my previously mentioned trade of LAC sending Eric Bledsoe & Marcus Morris to duck under the tax could be intriguing.

It makes LAC worse if they decide the pick is sunk cost and we can still salvage something.

However, you did say y'all have enough future picks so maybe this would've be that appealing.

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I doubt the Clippers will be sellers at the deadline (rich owner and still some chances to make the playoffs) but if they are, I'm open to any trade to help them get under the tax.

Picks are always good, it's a matter of cost/oppportunity. We badly need to draft talent and have cap space flexibility from 2023+ but if we can get small assets that won't hurt those two factors, I'm all in.

[Celts17Pride]

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[HornetJail]

any credibility to that rumor? Seems bad for Boston and I'm nowhere near as high on Smart as most Celtics fans are

[Celts17Pride]

any credibility to that rumor? Seems bad for Boston and I'm nowhere near as high on Smart as most Celtics fans are

Who knows?

This was a rumor from last night. All of this is coming from the Utah side.

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[K_chile22]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

Several league personnel view Washington as a favorite to land Grant. He hails from the D.C. area, his father Harvey played for the franchise from 1988-93 and again from 1996-98. The Wizards' first-year head coach Wes Unseld Jr. also coached Grant as an assistant with the Nuggets.

Jerami Grant for Davis Bertans, Rui Hachimura and Top 8 Protected 2022 Wizards 1st (2023 - Top 4 / 2025 - Top 4 / 2026 - Unprotected)?

They already have an outgoing pick in 2023 with heavy protections so it can't roll over

[Ell Curry]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

Several league personnel view Washington as a favorite to land Grant. He hails from the D.C. area, his father Harvey played for the franchise from 1988-93 and again from 1996-98. The Wizards' first-year head coach Wes Unseld Jr. also coached Grant as an assistant with the Nuggets.

Jerami Grant for Davis Bertans, Rui Hachimura and Top 8 Protected 2022 Wizards 1st (2023 - Top 4 / 2025 - Top 4 / 2026 - Unprotected)?

Hachimura is a tough one to evaluate for off-court and on-court reasons. I assume Detroit would ask for Avidja as he's a nice fit for a Cade-Bey-Avidja-20221st versatile Raptors/style of wings that can use Cade's height and maybe throw 5 shooters out there and run aggressive defensive schemes.

Hachimura might have a big fan or two in a front office somewhere, so maybe it's a 3 way deal if Detroit isn't a big fan.

[HartfordWhalers]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

Several league personnel view Washington as a favorite to land Grant. He hails from the D.C. area, his father Harvey played for the franchise from 1988-93 and again from 1996-98. The Wizards' first-year head coach Wes Unseld Jr. also coached Grant as an assistant with the Nuggets.

Jerami Grant for Davis Bertans, Rui Hachimura and Top 8 Protected 2022 Wizards 1st (2023 - Top 4 / 2025 - Top 4 / 2026 - Unprotected)?

They already have an outgoing pick in 2023 with heavy protections so it can't roll over

The existing pick ends after 2026 so they could do a pick for 2 years after it, and it would happen in 2028 by the latest which is within the 7 years of picks rule. But the other team to wait that long, you would want some pretty minimal to no protections by the end.

For what its worth you can do wording like:

2025 (top 10)
2026 (top 8)
2027 (top 4)
2028 (top 1 or a 2nd rounder)
But must be 2 years after the other pick...

And if the other pick is in 2025 then it just starts at the 2027 (top 4), or whatever protection was for that year, not the numbers of years the pick was eligible to be traded.

[K_chile22]

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Jerami Grant for Davis Bertans, Rui Hachimura and Top 8 Protected 2022 Wizards 1st (2023 - Top 4 / 2025 - Top 4 / 2026 - Unprotected)?

They already have an outgoing pick in 2023 with heavy protections so it can't roll over

The existing pick ends after 2026 so they could do a pick for 2 years after it, and it would happen in 2028 by the latest which is within the 7 years of picks rule. But the other team to wait that long, you would want some pretty minimal to no protections by the end.

For what its worth you can do wording like:

2025 (top 10)
2026 (top 8)
2027 (top 4)
2028 (top 1 or a 2nd rounder)
But must be 2 years after the other pick...

And if the other pick is in 2025 then it just starts at the 2027 (top 4), or whatever protection was for that year, not the numbers of years the pick was eligible to be traded.

Right, but they could not do a protected 2022 1st that rolls over into another first

[K_chile22]

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Seems only team interested in Russ right now are the rockets and they want the 2027 1st to do a wall swap.. so seems like Russ will not be traded lol

[MoneyTalks41890]

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Seems only team interested in Russ right now are the rockets and they want the 2027 1st to do a wall swap.. so seems like Russ will not be traded lol

If OKC still had Kemba there could be something there, but yeah Wall's deal seems to be the only one that really makes sense in a Russ trade. And I think that would be a mistake for LA.

[K_chile22]

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Seems only team interested in Russ right now are the rockets and they want the 2027 1st to do a wall swap.. so seems like Russ will not be traded lol

If OKC still had Kemba there could be something there, but yeah Wall's deal seems to be the only one that really makes sense in a Russ trade. And I think that would be a mistake for LA.

I think it may be worth a gamble to do a straight swap but trading a first to do it would be even worse than the original trade for Russ

[babyjax13]

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I would both love this and be very sad. Bojan is one of my favorite Jazz players ever, fierce competitor, really amazing shooter, great scorer in just about any situation. But we also need perimeter defense and a big guard who can fit next to Donovan long-term, so Smart would be a nice fit.

[babyjax13]

any credibility to that rumor? Seems bad for Boston and I'm nowhere near as high on Smart as most Celtics fans are

Who knows?

This was a rumor from last night. All of this is coming from the Utah side.

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I have no idea who these people are, so probably not...they aren't followed by the major Jazz reporters, either.

[zimpy27]

I don't see a chance that Lakers move an FRP before deadline. They will be able to use LAL27FRP and LAL29FRP in offseason to try move Russ. That gives them some play in the SnT superstar market.

[BlazersBroncos]

I don't see a chance that Lakers move an FRP before deadline. They will be able to use LAL27FRP and LAL29FRP in offseason to try move Russ. That gives them some play in the SnT superstar market.

What? 2 picks 5 and 7 years out and a 40M+ expiring isnt the going rate for a superstar.

[jbk1234]

I don't see a chance that Lakers move an FRP before deadline. They will be able to use LAL27FRP and LAL29FRP in offseason to try move Russ. That gives them some play in the SnT superstar market.

This is smarter, I just don't know that they'll pull the ripcord on the postseason like that.

[zimpy27]

I don't see a chance that Lakers move an FRP before deadline. They will be able to use LAL27FRP and LAL29FRP in offseason to try move Russ. That gives them some play in the SnT superstar market.

What? 2 picks 5 and 7 years out and a 40M+ expiring isnt the going rate for a superstar.

If the team with the superstar can't get a better offer on SnT from elsewhere it might be. Think of all the SnTs of superstars.. not great value was had


But yeah unlikely, they still at least try

[toooskies]

I don't see a chance that Lakers move an FRP before deadline. They will be able to use LAL27FRP and LAL29FRP in offseason to try move Russ. That gives them some play in the SnT superstar market.

What? 2 picks 5 and 7 years out and a 40M+ expiring isnt the going rate for a superstar.

If the team with the superstar can't get a better offer on SnT from elsewhere it might be. Think of all the SnTs of superstars.. not great value was had


But yeah unlikely, they still at least try

Doesn't receiving a S&T put you under a hard cap? Are the Lakers going to be under that?

[Patsfan1081]

Some cap deals to get teams below the tax...

Aaron Nesmith to Cleveland (into TPE) for '22 Rockets 2nd and '22 Spurs 2nd
Robert Covington for Tristan Thompson and '22 Kings 2nd

I think that puts the Cavs into the tax unless Boston wants to take back Pangos, and given how little Nesmith has shown so far I'm not sure he's worth one high 2nd let alone two.

I agree that Nesmith has yet to impress.

Maybe just a swap of the lesser (worst) of the Houston and San Antonio 2022 Second Round Picks for the Boston 2022 Second Round Pick. Cleveland is still taking a risk, but at least there is a fallback position if Nesmith busts.

I cant see this. I was never high on Nesmith but he hasnt even played a full seasons worth of games yet and Boston has other avenues to get under the tax. He was starting to play decent to close out last season, maybe if they hadnt used a late lottery pick on him then it would be a different story.