Random Rumor and General Offseason Discussion Thread

Post #321 » by **loserX** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 pm

jbk1234 wrote:

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Just did a quick check...worth noting that 11 picks in this round have *already* been traded. Would be pretty amazing if #1 was the only pick that ended up with the team it started with :lol:

Post #322 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:

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Hell yeah

yeah I'm for action and chaos. Dallas doesn't figure to be in on any of it so I can relax and just enjoy the fireworks.

Troubadour · Post #323 » by **Troubadour** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:53 pm

Kawhi is going to the Blue Jays game tonight. #HeStay or #HePlay?

Troubadour · Post #324 » by **Troubadour** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:56 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

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Great buy low candidate

Post #325 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:57 pm

Troubadour wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

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Great buy low candidate

Playing devil's advocate to my own earlier point, would have liked to see ATL move 41 for Frank

Post #326 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:02 pm

Troubadour wrote:Great buy low candidate

I'm not sure he is. He was picked what 8th? That's a pretty big salary for a point guard with no offensive game. And for all the talk about his defense he's been a big negative on that end as well.

But we are talking about maybe the worst offensive player in the league who isn't a center and not even many of them are worse. He's brutal. Can't shoot from anywhere, can't draw fouls, turns the ball over way too much, can't finish at all (under 50% at the rim).

He's not worth his contract much less worth a pick. He might get it because team are like us they attach too much to draft position even though they should no better.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #327 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:03 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

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Seems so Orlando to trade multiple seconds for this dude, we have already been linked to him so I can totally see it.

phraoh · Post #328 » by **phraoh** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:06 pm

I see a 3 team (maybe 4 team) deal for the 4 and other lottery picks. I think Griffin really does want Love...he is looking for a stretch 4 and he isn't worried about $$$ right now. New Orleans has never been a free agent destination, so to have some extra cap space means nothing. Look, I think the Bulls, Hawks, and Timberwolves want to move up, so looking for NO, Cavs, and 1 or more of those teams to be involved in getting a stretch PF to NO. NO needs and is looking for shooters to balance their team, and I don't think they are looking to not try to make the playoffs.

Pathora · Post #329 » by **Pathora** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:09 pm

The only way I see Myles Turner go for #4 is if Pacers get to keep #18 and Bol Bol falls to that pick.

BlazersBroncos · Post #330 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:10 pm

I actually think a Zion / Love frontcourt is very complimentary, but I don't see the value of moving #4 for KL. If there was a trade that netted them KL and a Top-10 pick for #4, that is value that I can live with if I am a NO fan. A big issue to me is that KL's deal runs the entire course of Zion's deal.

NO should make a playoff run now, but ensure they have tons of cap space at least the season before Zion will be due for his extension. KL may muddy up that plan.

Post #331 » by **pacers33granger** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
But we are talking about maybe the worst offensive player in the league who isn't a center and not even many of them are worse. He's brutal. Can't shoot from anywhere, can't draw fouls, turns the ball over way too much, can't finish at all (under 50% at the rim).

Not that I disagree with the point, but this is basically Rondo and he got $9 mil (it was a stupid contract though).

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #332 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:23 pm

pacers33granger wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
But we are talking about maybe the worst offensive player in the league who isn't a center and not even many of them are worse. He's brutal. Can't shoot from anywhere, can't draw fouls, turns the ball over way too much, can't finish at all (under 50% at the rim).

Not that I disagree with the point, but this is basically Rondo and he got $9 mil (it was a stupid contract though).

Basically a 32 year old Rondo who is a significantly worse scorer, significantly less of a passer, half the rebounder and a better but average defender ? That player doesn't sound like he belongs in the NBA to me. Much less makes me want to send an asset for him.

Post #333 » by **codydaze** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:23 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Great buy low candidate

I'm not sure he is. He was picked what 8th? That's a pretty big salary for a point guard with no offensive game. And for all the talk about his defense he's been a big negative on that end as well.

But we are talking about maybe the worst offensive player in the league who isn't a center and not even many of them are worse. He's brutal. Can't shoot from anywhere, can't draw fouls, turns the ball over way too much, can't finish at all (under 50% at the rim).

He's not worth his contract much less worth a pick. He might get it because team are like us they attach too much to draft position even though they should no better.

I think his salary for this season is 4 million then a 6 million dollar team option the year after. Not too big of a deal to swallow, especially with the option making it essentially an expiring.

I would be all for Sac offering the 47 for him.

Post #334 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:26 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Seems so Orlando to trade multiple seconds for this dude, we have already been linked to him so I can totally see it.

He makes Elfrid Payton look like Gary Payton. Why in the world would Orlando want a worse version of that disaster?

Post #335 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:27 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Seems so Orlando to trade multiple seconds for this dude, we have already been linked to him so I can totally see it.

He makes Elfrid Payton look like Gary Payton. Why in the world would Orlando want a worse version of that disaster?

Is his defense really that bad? I'd heard he was good on that side.

orlando_joe · Post #336 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Great buy low candidate

I'm not sure he is. He was picked what 8th? That's a pretty big salary for a point guard with no offensive game. And for all the talk about his defense he's been a big negative on that end as well.

But we are talking about maybe the worst offensive player in the league who isn't a center and not even many of them are worse. He's brutal. Can't shoot from anywhere, can't draw fouls, turns the ball over way too much, can't finish at all (under 50% at the rim).

He's not worth his contract much less worth a pick. He might get it because team are like us they attach too much to draft position even though they should no better.

ouch...so I put you down as a no..for dallas

Troubadour · Post #337 » by **Troubadour** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Great buy low candidate

I'm not sure he is. He was picked what 8th? That's a pretty big salary for a point guard with no offensive game. And for all the talk about his defense he's been a big negative on that end as well.

But we are talking about maybe the worst offensive player in the league who isn't a center and not even many of them are worse. He's brutal. Can't shoot from anywhere, can't draw fouls, turns the ball over way too much, can't finish at all (under 50% at the rim).

He's not worth his contract much less worth a pick. He might get it because team are like us they attach too much to draft position even though they should no better.

PG is the hardest position to learn and he is still incredibly young. Knicks are also not known for developing talent. It would be great to bring him into a team with a stronger developmental system and a G-League team for him to really get some reps.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #338 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Seems so Orlando to trade multiple seconds for this dude, we have already been linked to him so I can totally see it.

He makes Elfrid Payton look like Gary Payton. Why in the world would Orlando want a worse version of that disaster?

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orlando_joe · Post #339 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:30 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

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Seems so Orlando to trade multiple seconds for this dude, we have already been linked to him so I can totally see it.[/quote
hope not

BlazersBroncos · Post #340 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:31 pm

Frank could be a late summer option for a team with leftover cap space to trade a future R2 for. I don't see how anyone active in the FA market could think its smart to use space on a guy of his caliber early in the game.