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[jayjaysee]

Playing on Houston being interested.. Can we try;

Martin and Houston 2022 first to Cleveland
Sexton, Gordon, Augustin, 2-3other team firsts Houston owns to Philly
Simmons, Milton, Joe (Houston uses a TPE to take on small contract) to Houston

I don’t really hate that.

A should be lottery first and a decent young wing prospect. Sexton, a couple firsts and some salary matching - Gordon would be kind of useful as a playmaker.. And Houston uses Wall’s contract and left over assets to build a team around Sengun/Wood/Garuba/Simmons/Green/Christopher/Porter/Milton

[gambitx777]

I'm ready to see John wall, wood and Gordon in a 76ers jersey after a crazy 3 - 4 team trade.

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[toooskies]

Playing on Houston behind interested.. Can we try;

Martin and Houston 2022 first to Cleveland
Sexton, Gordon, Augustin, 2-3other team firsts Houston owns to Philly
Simmons, Milton, Joe (Houston uses a TPE to take on small contract) to Houston

I don’t really hate that.

I don't see Philly accepting non-stars and distant picks.

As much as everyone thinks the Cavs are going to sell young assets to turn them into picks, I just don't think they're interested either. They traded a pick to get Allen, they traded a pick to get Markkanen. They are much more likely to try to cut Houston out. I'm sure Philly would prefer an expiring Rubio and Osman to Gordon and Augustin.

Also... Houston is going to be bad next year if they are playing four rookies, a second-year guy in Tate, and a third year guy in KPJ. Maybe Christopher and Garuba play in the G-league primarily, but Houston has already committed to development over quality of play with Wall sitting out until he's traded. I don't see how they part with their pick this year.

So, yeah, I think all three sides say no.

[BlazersBroncos]

I really dont think Wall, Wood and some picks as a bad deal for Ben.

On the other hand I would be hesitant to bring Ben to a team like HOU. I think he needs to be around vet leaders or he will coast IMO.

[Texas Chuck]

I really dont think Wall, Wood and some picks as a bad deal for Ben.

On the other hand I would be hesitant to bring Ben to a team like HOU. I think he needs to be around vet leaders or he will coast IMO.

Of course its terrible. They want to win now and an terribly overpaid PG with his own offensive flaws and a backup center don't remotely help with that.

Meanwhile Simmons is immediately the best player on Houston by some miles and they gave up essentially nothing and its bad for them?

[pipfan]

I have seen the future
Simmons and the Sixers decide that he will sit out until the new contracts are eligible to be traded in Dec.
DDR/CWhite/Port 1st for Simmons (maybe White to OKC or somewhere, for a late)

DDR is better than Simmons on offense-defense is another story, but they salvage a star player for him, and save some $. Plus they get 2 1sts

Bulls put Lavine/Ball/Simmons together (all Klutch guys, I think)

Ball/Lavine/PWill/Simmons/Vuc
Caruso/Troy Brown/DJJ/Bradley

bring it on

[Dat2U]

I really dont think Wall, Wood and some picks as a bad deal for Ben.

On the other hand I would be hesitant to bring Ben to a team like HOU. I think he needs to be around vet leaders or he will coast IMO.

Of course its terrible. They want to win now and an terribly overpaid PG with his own offensive flaws and a backup center don't remotely help with that.

Meanwhile Simmons is immediately the best player on Houston by some miles and they gave up essentially nothing and its bad for them?

Wood is much better than a backup center.

Not saying this is a good or acceptable deal but it doesn't appear Philly is being offered alot and they bargaining position is only getting worse.

[MasterIchiro]

Simmons pushing hard to get out. Does it affect his trade value?

[Texas Chuck]

I really dont think Wall, Wood and some picks as a bad deal for Ben.

On the other hand I would be hesitant to bring Ben to a team like HOU. I think he needs to be around vet leaders or he will coast IMO.

Of course its terrible. They want to win now and an terribly overpaid PG with his own offensive flaws and a backup center don't remotely help with that.

Meanwhile Simmons is immediately the best player on Houston by some miles and they gave up essentially nothing and its bad for them?

Wood is much better than a backup center.

Not saying this is a good or acceptable deal but it doesn't appear Philly is being offered alot and they bargaining position is only getting worse.

Doesn't matter if Wood is technically better than a backup center. He's not playing in front of Embiid. And we don't know what they are actually getting offered. It could be trash like this only. I can't rule that out. But I continue to be amazed how sure many posters are that they have to take packages that make no sense from either a value or a direction standpoint.

Not only do they not have to do that, they are very unlikely to do that. I get it, many of you have decided Ben Simmons has no merits to an NBA team any longer, but I refuse to believe that's the position of every front office in the league.

[parsnips33]

I have seen the future
Simmons and the Sixers decide that he will sit out until the new contracts are eligible to be traded in Dec.
DDR/CWhite/Port 1st for Simmons (maybe White to OKC or somewhere, for a late)

DDR is better than Simmons on offense-defense is another story, but they salvage a star player for him, and save some $. Plus they get 2 1sts

Bulls put Lavine/Ball/Simmons together (all Klutch guys, I think)

Ball/Lavine/PWill/Simmons/Vuc
Caruso/Troy Brown/DJJ/Bradley

bring it on

Man that would be an exciting group. Wonder how this would stack up against the Warriors best package, specifically in terms of DeRozan vs Wiggins

[BullyKing]

I have seen the future
Simmons and the Sixers decide that he will sit out until the new contracts are eligible to be traded in Dec.
DDR/CWhite/Port 1st for Simmons (maybe White to OKC or somewhere, for a late)

DDR is better than Simmons on offense-defense is another story, but they salvage a star player for him, and save some $. Plus they get 2 1sts

Bulls put Lavine/Ball/Simmons together (all Klutch guys, I think)

Ball/Lavine/PWill/Simmons/Vuc
Caruso/Troy Brown/DJJ/Bradley

bring it on

Man that would be an exciting group. Wonder how this would stack up against the Warriors best package, specifically in terms of DeRozan vs Wiggins

DeRozan, white and a late 1st has absolutely no value whatsoever so any team can stack up against this ridiculous offer.

[bondom34]

Every week there's a new Woj tweet saying the same thing and every week everyone freaks out.

[MoneyTalks41890]

I have seen the future
Simmons and the Sixers decide that he will sit out until the new contracts are eligible to be traded in Dec.
DDR/CWhite/Port 1st for Simmons (maybe White to OKC or somewhere, for a late)

DDR is better than Simmons on offense-defense is another story, but they salvage a star player for him, and save some $. Plus they get 2 1sts

Bulls put Lavine/Ball/Simmons together (all Klutch guys, I think)

Ball/Lavine/PWill/Simmons/Vuc
Caruso/Troy Brown/DJJ/Bradley

bring it on

Man that would be an exciting group. Wonder how this would stack up against the Warriors best package, specifically in terms of DeRozan vs Wiggins

DeRozan, white and a late 1st has absolutely no value whatsoever so any team can stack up against this ridiculous offer.

From the Bulls Lonzo, PWill, DJJ would be interesting.

[loserX]

Simmons pushing hard to get out. Does it affect his trade value?

It certainly doesn't help.

[nolang1]

Sixers out: Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris
Sixers in: John Wall, Christian Wood, Harrison Barnes

Warriors out: Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, Moses Moody, Mychal Mulder
Warriors in: Simmons, Buddy Hield, Kenyon Martin Jr.

Rockets out: Wall, Wood, Eric Gordon, Martin Jr.,
Rockets in: Wiggins, Marvin Bagley III, Tristan Thompson, Moses Moody

Kings out: Barnes, Hield, Bagley, Thompson
Kings in: Harris, Gordon, Wiseman, Mulder

[parsnips33]

I have seen the future
Simmons and the Sixers decide that he will sit out until the new contracts are eligible to be traded in Dec.
DDR/CWhite/Port 1st for Simmons (maybe White to OKC or somewhere, for a late)

DDR is better than Simmons on offense-defense is another story, but they salvage a star player for him, and save some $. Plus they get 2 1sts

Bulls put Lavine/Ball/Simmons together (all Klutch guys, I think)

Ball/Lavine/PWill/Simmons/Vuc
Caruso/Troy Brown/DJJ/Bradley

bring it on

Man that would be an exciting group. Wonder how this would stack up against the Warriors best package, specifically in terms of DeRozan vs Wiggins

DeRozan, white and a late 1st has absolutely no value whatsoever so any team can stack up against this ridiculous offer.

You think Sixers would value Wiggins more or DeRozan more? I agree many teams could and should offer better than this

[Texas Chuck]

Simmons pushing hard to get out. Does it affect his trade value?

It certainly doesn't help.

I don't think Woj's tweet today changes anything. If Simmons was open to playing with the Sixers, then its not that his trade value goes up, its that they simply don't trade him.

Everyone has known where Simmons stands for a long time now. If I was running a team where he made sense, this would just spur me to make my final serious offer. Obviously they will trade him if they get a real offer, so if you want him, just make one. But thinking they are going to take your crappy players who don't fit just because he's not showing up to camp isn't something I expect real GM's to believe.

[mademan]

Simmons pushing hard to get out. Does it affect his trade value?

It certainly doesn't help.

I don't think Woj's tweet today changes anything. If Simmons was open to playing with the Sixers, then its not that his trade value goes up, its that they simply don't trade him.

Everyone has known where Simmons stands for a long time now. If I was running a team where he made sense, this would just spur me to make my final serious offer. Obviously they will trade him if they get a real offer, so if you want him, just make one. But thinking they are going to take your crappy players who don't fit just because he's not showing up to camp isn't something I expect real GM's to believe.

I think it's different. We've had rumblings of guys planning to not show up and we've had threats that turned out to be empty. This might be the first time i've actually heard credibly (from Woj/Shams) that a player wont show up for training camp and actually believed it.

If Simmons is truly adamant about not wearing a Sixers jersey again, something i thought was just an empty threat like we hear all the time, the most recent being Harden's camp saying he wouldnt show up in Houston, then i cant imagine how it doesnt effect the Sixers negotiation stance.

[basketballwacko2]

I'm ready to see John wall, wood and Gordon in a 76ers jersey after a crazy 3 - 4 team trade.

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My problem for your problem? Could happen if the 6ers think Wall has anything left depending on what they can cobble together in parts and picks.

Sixers are in a bind now Ben's value is dropping by the day this could be worse for them than the Paul George from Indiana thing a few years back.

[eminence]

I'd still like a 3+ team deal with Simmons to GS.