2015-2016 Cap Space Series

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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#41 » by Smitty731 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:29 pm

OP updated on 8/17.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#42 » by Smitty731 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:22 pm

Updated OP on 8/28:

Atlanta - signed Jason Richardson to a Summer Contract (doesn't count against the Cap)

Boston - signed Coty Clarke

Brooklyn - updated Exceptions

Chicago - updated Exceptions

Denver - waived Joey Dorsey

Houston - signed Jason Terry and updated Exceptions

LA Lakers - signed Michael Frazier II

Memphis - signed Michael Holyfield to a Summer Contract (doesn't count against the Cap) and updated Exceptions

Miami - signed Keith Benson and Corey Hawkins to Summer Contracts (doesn't count against the Cap) and updated Exceptions

Milwaukee - signed Marcus Landry to a Summer Contract (doesn't count against the Cap)

Minnesota - signed Tayshaun Prince and updated Exceptions

New Orleans - signed Bryce Dejean-Jones, removed Cap Hold for Jeff Withey and updated Exceptions

Oklahoma City - updated Exceptions

Philadelphia - removed Cap Hold for Henry Sims

Phoenix - signed Deonte Burton, Cory Jefferson and Henry Sims to Summer Contracts (doesn't count against the Cap)

Toronto - signed Shannon Scott

Utah - signed Treveon Graham and Jeff Withey

Washington - updated Exceptions
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#43 » by sportscrazy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:49 pm

Smitty731 wrote:OP updated on 8/17.


Smitty, I need help in another thread and didn't know another way to ask for your help.

Using projected cap numbers for the 2016 off-season. If the Kings hypothetically do poorly this season and DeMarcus Cousins requests to be traded while Brooklyn wins the second overall pick in the draft lottery, the Mavericks finish with the 8th overall pick post-lottery and the Celtics own first rounder is 16th overall.

If the Celtics were to overpay to land DeMarcus Cousins and offered Marcus Smart, 2nd Overall Draft Pick (via Brooklyn), 8th Overall Draft Pick (via Dallas), 16th Overall Draft Pick (via Boston) and a Traded Player Exception to make up the salary difference, how much cap space would Boston being looking at in 2016? Would they still have enough cap space that such an overpay would be worth it and then build a contender around Avery Bradley and DeMarcus Cousins plus the other young pieces that would still be on their roster via free agency?
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#44 » by Smitty731 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:44 pm

sportscrazy wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:OP updated on 8/17.


Smitty, I need help in another thread and didn't know another way to ask for your help.

Using projected cap numbers for the 2016 off-season. If the Kings hypothetically do poorly this season and DeMarcus Cousins requests to be traded while Brooklyn wins the second overall pick in the draft lottery, the Mavericks finish with the 8th overall pick post-lottery and the Celtics own first rounder is 16th overall.

If the Celtics were to overpay to land DeMarcus Cousins and offered Marcus Smart, 2nd Overall Draft Pick (via Brooklyn), 8th Overall Draft Pick (via Dallas), 16th Overall Draft Pick (via Boston) and a Traded Player Exception to make up the salary difference, how much cap space would Boston being looking at in 2016? Would they still have enough cap space that such an overpay would be worth it and then build a contender around Avery Bradley and DeMarcus Cousins plus the other young pieces that would still be on their roster via free agency?


I'd have to run it and won't have time for a while.

One problem with what you laid out is that TPEs can't be combined, or aggregated, with other players to take in a higher salaried player. They can only be used by themselves to acquire players. Does that make sense?
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#45 » by sportscrazy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:15 pm

Smitty731 wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:OP updated on 8/17.


Smitty, I need help in another thread and didn't know another way to ask for your help.

Using projected cap numbers for the 2016 off-season. If the Kings hypothetically do poorly this season and DeMarcus Cousins requests to be traded while Brooklyn wins the second overall pick in the draft lottery, the Mavericks finish with the 8th overall pick post-lottery and the Celtics own first rounder is 16th overall.

If the Celtics were to overpay to land DeMarcus Cousins and offered Marcus Smart, 2nd Overall Draft Pick (via Brooklyn), 8th Overall Draft Pick (via Dallas), 16th Overall Draft Pick (via Boston) and a Traded Player Exception to make up the salary difference, how much cap space would Boston being looking at in 2016? Would they still have enough cap space that such an overpay would be worth it and then build a contender around Avery Bradley and DeMarcus Cousins plus the other young pieces that would still be on their roster via free agency?


I'd have to run it and won't have time for a while.

One problem with what you laid out is that TPEs can't be combined, or aggregated, with other players to take in a higher salaried player. They can only be used by themselves to acquire players. Does that make sense?



So if Boston had the cap space to absorb the difference between Cousins and Smart, it technically wouldn't be in the form of a TPE?
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#46 » by Smitty731 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:19 pm

sportscrazy wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:
Smitty, I need help in another thread and didn't know another way to ask for your help.

Using projected cap numbers for the 2016 off-season. If the Kings hypothetically do poorly this season and DeMarcus Cousins requests to be traded while Brooklyn wins the second overall pick in the draft lottery, the Mavericks finish with the 8th overall pick post-lottery and the Celtics own first rounder is 16th overall.

If the Celtics were to overpay to land DeMarcus Cousins and offered Marcus Smart, 2nd Overall Draft Pick (via Brooklyn), 8th Overall Draft Pick (via Dallas), 16th Overall Draft Pick (via Boston) and a Traded Player Exception to make up the salary difference, how much cap space would Boston being looking at in 2016? Would they still have enough cap space that such an overpay would be worth it and then build a contender around Avery Bradley and DeMarcus Cousins plus the other young pieces that would still be on their roster via free agency?


I'd have to run it and won't have time for a while.

One problem with what you laid out is that TPEs can't be combined, or aggregated, with other players to take in a higher salaried player. They can only be used by themselves to acquire players. Does that make sense?



So if Boston had the cap space to absorb the difference between Cousins and Smart, it technically wouldn't be in the form of a TPE?


Here is kind of an example. Ignore the matching purposes for salaried out and tax vs. non-tax. This is just to keep it simple:

Team A is taking Player 1 who makes 12 million from Team B.

Team A has to match salary through player salaries and/or space. They can't trade a 6 million player and a 6 million TPE to make the match. TPEs can't be aggregated with outgoing salary to take in a larger salary.

Hopefully that makes sense.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#47 » by Smitty731 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:11 pm

Updated OP on 10/12.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#48 » by Smitty731 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:38 pm

Updated OP on 10/19.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#49 » by Smitty731 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:29 pm

Updated OP on 10/21.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#50 » by Smitty731 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:37 pm

Updated OP on 10/26. Individual team write ups in process.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#51 » by Smitty731 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:41 am

Updated OP on 10/26 at 10:40 PM.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#52 » by Smitty731 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:53 pm

Updated OP on 10/27.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#53 » by Smitty731 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 2:56 pm

Updated OP on 11/6.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#54 » by Smitty731 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:12 pm

Updated OP on 11/11.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#55 » by Smitty731 » Fri Dec 4, 2015 2:27 pm

Updated OP on 12/4.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#56 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Dec 4, 2015 2:40 pm

Smitty731 wrote:Updated OP on 12/4.


Wroten is supposed to play tomorrow, so Philly will be having to make a roster move before then. Sorry.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#57 » by Smitty731 » Fri Dec 4, 2015 2:43 pm

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Smitty731 wrote:Updated OP on 12/4.


Wroten is supposed to play tomorrow, so Philly will be having to make a roster move before then. Sorry.


That will knock them down to only 3 guys out (Marshall, Landry and Embiid) right? So, yeah. I heard a rumor that they were looking at cutting Pressey, since they won't need another PG with Wroten back and Marshall eventually coming back. Have you heard any more?
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#58 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Dec 4, 2015 2:46 pm

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HartfordWhalers wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:Updated OP on 12/4.


Wroten is supposed to play tomorrow, so Philly will be having to make a roster move before then. Sorry.


That will knock them down to only 3 guys out (Marshall, Landry and Embiid) right? So, yeah. I heard a rumor that they were looking at cutting Pressey, since they won't need another PG with Wroten back and Marshall eventually coming back. Have you heard any more?


Pressey probably makes the most sense, but it is Philly so who knows.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#59 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Dec 4, 2015 4:08 pm

Smitty731 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:Updated OP on 12/4.


Wroten is supposed to play tomorrow, so Philly will be having to make a roster move before then. Sorry.


That will knock them down to only 3 guys out (Marshall, Landry and Embiid) right? So, yeah. I heard a rumor that they were looking at cutting Pressey, since they won't need another PG with Wroten back and Marshall eventually coming back. Have you heard any more?


And just like that Pressey is gone.
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Re: 2015-2016 Cap Space Series 

Post#60 » by Smitty731 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:58 pm

Updated OP on 12/16.

Philadelphia - waived Phil Pressey.

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