Guys with "star" potential who are not viewed as budding stars? Post some!

[Dukenukem23]

Jonas Valanciunas. if he played in a system that gave him.the ball.

Terrence ross if he ever matures and has work ethic. Million to one odds here.

[Mr. E]

Without reading anything in this post my first response is the Stifle Tower.

I'm not sure how he is seen around the League, but I think that guy has the potential to be a fantastic player in the League.

As a Rockets fan I'm sure that you all realize how hard that was for me to say that.

[City of Trees]

Ben McLemore, Jusuf Nurkic, Dennis Schroder

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[The59Sound]

From March 20th through the playoffs CJ McCollum was putting up some pretty crazy numbers. He very well could get big minutes this year.

This is my pick, as well. You can call me crazy, but I think CJ McCollum has a chance to be as good as Lillard.

[the_process]

Nurkiç, Schröder, Exum, Valanciunas, McLemore

[City of Trees]

From March 20th through the playoffs CJ McCollum was putting up some pretty crazy numbers. He very well could get big minutes this year.

This is my pick, as well. You can call me crazy, but I think CJ McCollum has a chance to be as good as Lillard.

Crazy

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[nomansland]

Ty Lawson would be an all-star in the East. Any takers?

[HartfordWhalers]

Ty Lawson would be an all-star in the East. Any takers?

By that you mean China?

[nomansland]

Ty Lawson would be an all-star in the East. Any takers?

By that you mean China?

Looking at the teams in the East and who plays point for them (I know it's a generic guard spot), Ty would easily be in the top tier statistically and he'd get the media attention to make it happen.

[DocRI]

Ty Lawson would be an all-star in the East. Any takers?

By that you mean China?

Looking at the teams in the East and who plays point for them (I know it's a generic guard spot), Ty would easily be in the top tier statistically and he'd get the media attention to make it happen.

I think it would entirely depend upon what team he joined. Stats aren't everything when it comes to All Star nods; in fact, the bench spots almost entirely now go to players on winning teams. If Lawson got traded to PHI, he could put up massive stats and still be snubbed; if he joined IND and he and a healthy Paul George lead them back to a top-four record in the conference, he'd make the All Star Team with lesser stats than he'd put up in Philly.

And BTW, PG is actually a pretty deep position in the East. Wall, Irving and Rose (when healthy) certainly lead the parade. Beyond them, you've got (in no particular order) Lowry, Teague, MCW, Jackson, Kemba, Dragic, and young kids like Payton and Smart. And again, seeing as players from winning teams get preference (like four Hawks being selected last year), "top tier stats" alone probably wouldn't be enough.

[nomansland]

By that you mean China?

Looking at the teams in the East and who plays point for them (I know it's a generic guard spot), Ty would easily be in the top tier statistically and he'd get the media attention to make it happen.

I think it would entirely depend upon what team he joined. Stats aren't everything when it comes to All Star nods; in fact, the bench spots almost entirely now go to players on winning teams. If Lawson got traded to PHI, he could put up massive stats and still be snubbed; if he joined IND and he and a healthy Paul George lead them back to a top-four record in the conference, he'd make the All Star Team with lesser stats than he'd put up in Philly.

And BTW, PG is actually a pretty deep position in the East. Wall, Irving and Rose (when healthy) certainly lead the parade. Beyond them, you've got (in no particular order) Lowry, Teague, MCW, Jackson, Kemba, Dragic, and young kids like Payton and Smart. And again, seeing as players from winning teams get preference (like four Hawks being selected last year), "top tier stats" alone probably wouldn't be enough.

The only players who are clearly better than Lawson in the East are Wall and Rose. And Rose is perpetually injured. Yes you could argue that Irving is better but if you put Lawson next to LeBron I guarantee you he would shine as well. Or if you put Lawson on the pre-LeBron Cavs he'd rack up some stellar stats too. The rest of them are only "better" because they play in a conference that gets more media attention.

[HartfordWhalers]

Looking at the teams in the East and who plays point for them (I know it's a generic guard spot), Ty would easily be in the top tier statistically and he'd get the media attention to make it happen.

I think it would entirely depend upon what team he joined. Stats aren't everything when it comes to All Star nods; in fact, the bench spots almost entirely now go to players on winning teams. If Lawson got traded to PHI, he could put up massive stats and still be snubbed; if he joined IND and he and a healthy Paul George lead them back to a top-four record in the conference, he'd make the All Star Team with lesser stats than he'd put up in Philly.

And BTW, PG is actually a pretty deep position in the East. Wall, Irving and Rose (when healthy) certainly lead the parade. Beyond them, you've got (in no particular order) Lowry, Teague, MCW, Jackson, Kemba, Dragic, and young kids like Payton and Smart. And again, seeing as players from winning teams get preference (like four Hawks being selected last year), "top tier stats" alone probably wouldn't be enough.

The only players who are clearly better than Lawson in the East are Wall and Rose. And Rose is perpetually injured. Yes you could argue that Irving is better but if you put Lawson next to LeBron I guarantee you he would shine as well. Or if you put Lawson on the pre-LeBron Cavs he'd rack up some stellar stats too. The rest of them are only "better" because they play in a conference that gets more media attention.

Lowry and Teague had much better per, ts%, bpm, and rpm, and such. Lawson's assist numbers are much higher, but pretty much any aggregate statistic values the other guys more (as well as points).

[stitches]

Lol, I'd take healthy Irving over Lawson any day of the week, but I do think he could make all-star team in the east if he has a good season for a playoff team.

[HartfordWhalers]

And in terms of this thread, I don;t think current Ty qualifies as a 'star' and I don't see tons more upside.

He's very good, but not a great example of not a star imo.

[stitches]

HH, can Favors or Hayward be stars or do you think they are in similar category as Lawson?

[DocRI]

Looking at the teams in the East and who plays point for them (I know it's a generic guard spot), Ty would easily be in the top tier statistically and he'd get the media attention to make it happen.

I think it would entirely depend upon what team he joined. Stats aren't everything when it comes to All Star nods; in fact, the bench spots almost entirely now go to players on winning teams. If Lawson got traded to PHI, he could put up massive stats and still be snubbed; if he joined IND and he and a healthy Paul George lead them back to a top-four record in the conference, he'd make the All Star Team with lesser stats than he'd put up in Philly.

And BTW, PG is actually a pretty deep position in the East. Wall, Irving and Rose (when healthy) certainly lead the parade. Beyond them, you've got (in no particular order) Lowry, Teague, MCW, Jackson, Kemba, Dragic, and young kids like Payton and Smart. And again, seeing as players from winning teams get preference (like four Hawks being selected last year), "top tier stats" alone probably wouldn't be enough.

The only players who are clearly better than Lawson in the East are Wall and Rose. And Rose is perpetually injured. Yes you could argue that Irving is better but if you put Lawson next to LeBron I guarantee you he would shine as well. Or if you put Lawson on the pre-LeBron Cavs he'd rack up some stellar stats too. The rest of them are only "better" because they play in a conference that gets more media attention.

I don't wanna hijack this thread, because as HW wrote Lawson really doesn't fir the criteria of the discussion. And I'm not getting into an east/west media bias debate, either. But you do realize that All Star reserves are selected by head coaches, NOT the media, right? And that those coaches have shown a clear preference for players on winning teams?

I'll put it this way — there's no larger east coast market than NY. If Lawson got traded the the Knicks, but they still had a horrible record, I all but guarantee you he wouldn't make the All Star team no matter what kinda stats he was putting up.

[gcates]

Oladipo is on the right trajectory to get there...I could see him in the All-Star game next season. One of the better young assets in the league, in my opinion.

What I saw from Shabazz Muhammad through the first half of the season really impressed me. Really going after efficient offense, and getting most of it off the ball. Cutting, posting up, offensive board/putbacks...then started to show flashes of a consistent perimeter game...it's a shame he got hurt. If he can solidify a starting role, he'll put up numbers, and it looks like he'll be efficient in doing so.

Love Dante Exum, and his defense was excellent last season, but the jury is out on his offense. I think he'll be more assertive next season, and overall I feel confident he will improve significantly as a sophomore. Best thing the Jazz did for his development was keep him on the floor.

[thamadkant]

The more I see TJ Warren play, the more I think he's a potential star. Dude is one good-but-not-great three point shot away from being a really great player in this league.

He scores in all of the little ways that you don't even notice. He makes smart cuts and is constantly moving off the ball. I'm impressed he has that sort of scoring acumen at his age:

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Archie is a guy who has all the physical tools and one NBA ready skill(getting to the rim) with no idea how to actually play basketball. Still can't shoot, still doesn't know what to do on offense, still gets lost on defense. I'm much less optimistic about him hitting it big; I don't even know if he'll turn into a real rotation player unless he figures out how to shoot. However, he's still only 20 years old, and he shows flashes that make you stand up:

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1. Bit harsh on Goodwin, he has an idea how to play, but just makes mistakes like a typical 20 year old who is 1 and done from college. He relies a lot on his physical traits. Defensively, he is no Bledsoe, but for a 20 year old who only gets limited minutes he is sufficient. The longer he plays on the court the better he plays defense. He reminds me of a 6'6 version of Bledsoe during his Clipper days.... in 2-3 years time, when he is a bit bigger... I dont see how he cant be like Bledsoe but 5 inches taller.
Heck, he even reminds me of college/NBA year 1 Jordan... no kidding.

I'm so confident that on the 76ers with 30 minutes a game, he would of put up 15ppg 3apg 5rpg 2spg at 40% FG as a rookie.
He just needs a respectable jumper....and an ability to hit an open 3pt... thats all.

2. Warren is very good mover without the ball, he slashes well, but the way he gets his points are highly reliant on positioning rather than his athletic ability. Basically he moves well, he gets easy baskets because of it. Opposite of Goodwin, who attacks the rim like star wing men.

[willbcocks]

What about Beal? Is he too good to be listed here?

Not that he's too good now (he's not), but I would argue he doesn't fit the theme of the thread because he is viewed as a budding star by sponsors, USA basketball, many players and GMs, etc. If he does not become a star, it will be considered a disappointment.

[Q C]

Kidd-Gilchrist is a stud. He's better than Brad Beal