What would Love get in a trade

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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#41 » by jscott » Fri Jun 2, 2017 1:32 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Lebron haters love to prop how great Kevin Love is in order to prove how "stacked" the Cavs are... but I'm betting most of them wouldn't want to trade for him on their favorite team


The warriors tried to trade for Love, but role players like Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, David Lee and Harrison Barnes weren't enough.

This statement is false.

Warriors turned down the trade for Love not the other way around.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#42 » by JHFVF07 » Fri Jun 2, 2017 1:47 pm

#2+Deng+Mozgov.

Cleveland draft Josh Jackson as their defensive wing, Lebron spends more time as PF. Use Deng as 26mpg backup(while Lebron slid back to SF), and Mozgov as a Defensive Presence when TT isnt enough.

On a serious note, I have no idea, cant see a piece obtainable with Love that makes Cleveland better.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#43 » by Domejandro » Fri Jun 2, 2017 2:10 pm

jscott wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Lebron haters love to prop how great Kevin Love is in order to prove how "stacked" the Cavs are... but I'm betting most of them wouldn't want to trade for him on their favorite team


The warriors tried to trade for Love, but role players like Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, David Lee and Harrison Barnes weren't enough.

This statement is false.

Warriors turned down the trade for Love not the other way around.

Also false, Minnesota declined....

Klay Thompson, David Lee, and Harrison Barnes

for

Kevin Love, Kevin Martin, and #13

....a couple days before the draft.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#44 » by mattao313 » Fri Jun 2, 2017 2:31 pm

KCP, Morris, Boban for Love and whatever else
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#45 » by jscott » Fri Jun 2, 2017 2:53 pm

Domejandro wrote:
jscott wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
The warriors tried to trade for Love, but role players like Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, David Lee and Harrison Barnes weren't enough.

This statement is false.

Warriors turned down the trade for Love not the other way around.

Also false, Minnesota declined....

Klay Thompson, David Lee, and Harrison Barnes

for

Kevin Love, Kevin Martin, and #13

....a couple days before the draft.

Sure but thats a different package than what the OP mentioned. He said Love for Klay, Draymond, Lee, and Barnes (which as far as I remember was never rumored).

The one you mention include KMart, a low lotto pick, and no Draymond which alters the value considerably.

Just the other day RealGM had a story about how someone in the Warriors organization (maybe West but I thought it was someone else) stepped in and said no to Klay for Love as it was getting close.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#46 » by papidulo » Fri Jun 2, 2017 3:00 pm

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papidulo wrote:Trade him for Melo....
Force NY to throw in a young piece like Ron Baker

Love is better than Melo


The Cavs could have used Melo today, more so than Love I think. In saying that, Melo's body isn't exactly youthful anymore. The real steal in that trade would be Baker, cause the Cavs bench needs some help.


Exactly my thinking.
Melo in a support role, like when hes on the Olympic team, would be a better fit.
Hes his best playing with a pg who knows when and when not to give him the ball (playing w/ Billups)
and i think playing with Lebron will motivate him to play D.

As bad of a rap as he gets for his D, hes still more defensively versatile than Love, who cant guard Draymond bc of
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#47 » by Wizop » Fri Jun 2, 2017 4:16 pm

George for Love is no help to the Pacers but we'd gladly trade anyone other than George, Turner, Teague, [T Young?] or Stephenson and picks for Love. don't know why the Cavs would do this unless they just don't think Love fits what they want to do but he sure fits what the Pacers need to do to make George happy.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#48 » by Domejandro » Fri Jun 2, 2017 4:36 pm

jscott wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
jscott wrote:This statement is false.

Warriors turned down the trade for Love not the other way around.

Also false, Minnesota declined....

Klay Thompson, David Lee, and Harrison Barnes

for

Kevin Love, Kevin Martin, and #13

....a couple days before the draft.

Sure but thats a different package than what the OP mentioned. He said Love for Klay, Draymond, Lee, and Barnes (which as far as I remember was never rumored).

The one you mention include KMart, a low lotto pick, and no Draymond which alters the value considerably.

Just the other day RealGM had a story about how someone in the Warriors organization (maybe West but I thought it was someone else) stepped in and said no to Klay for Love as it was getting close.

My bad, I slightly misunderstood the conversation, haha. Yeah, they declined when Minnesota insisted on keeping the pick.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#49 » by Swoosh_Stripes » Fri Jun 2, 2017 7:24 pm

Domejandro wrote:
jscott wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
The warriors tried to trade for Love, but role players like Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, David Lee and Harrison Barnes weren't enough.

This statement is false.

Warriors turned down the trade for Love not the other way around.

Also false, Minnesota declined....

Klay Thompson, David Lee, and Harrison Barnes

for

Kevin Love, Kevin Martin, and #13

....a couple days before the draft.


Actually it was the Warriors that declined, once they hired Steve Kerr and Jerry West convinced Lacobs not to trade Klay.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#50 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jun 2, 2017 10:09 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
papidulo wrote:Trade him for Melo....
Force NY to throw in a young piece like Ron Baker

Love is better than Melo

Love is better than Melo in any series that isn't against the Warriors...

Trill_Cosby wrote:The question really isn't if we should trade love. The real question is, who could replace him that would make the cavaliers better than this gsw team. The answer to that is nobody that could be had for love.


I think the better way to approach it is how can Love be used to turn defunct players like Shumpert and JR into winning ones.
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I think that deal for CLE gives them a better starting 5. JR to the bench might be a better role for him. Obviously, back up playmaker is a need for CLE. I doubt Phil in any way will agree to take back JR.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#51 » by Ell Curry » Sat Jun 3, 2017 1:03 am

I don't think it's crazy for Cleveland to look at trading one of Love or Thompson for a wing because Lebron is only going to be better at the 4 than the 3 as he ages. Also, the Cavs might need someone to guard KD if it turns out Lebron can't. If you trade Thompson and start Love at the 5, you can probably grab a non-shooter since you still have 3 shooters around Lebron, and that guy can be the roller.

Maybe after he signs his max deal, an Otto Porter for Love deadline deal would make sense? or

I think instead of a big change like this, though, it probably just makes sense for Cleveland to find a wing with the new, bigger MLE like PJ Tucker or Joe Ingles or James Johnson or give up a 1st rounder for a wing like Robert Covington and then go into the tax to re-sign him and if the Warriors are too fast for a Thompson-Love-Lebron frontcourt or KD is unstoppable, just bring Thompson or Love off the bench and mainly play them at the 5 except for the 5 or so Lebron-less minutes and cut them each down to 25-30 minutes a game.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#52 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sat Jun 3, 2017 1:13 am

If Indiana knows George won't resign with them, I like Love for George for Indy.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#53 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Jun 3, 2017 2:35 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If Indiana knows George won't resign with them, I like Love for George for Indy.


I don't really like Love for Indy, but at least it gives them an asset to move.

I think George with Lebron and Kyrie would be a pretty good trio.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#54 » by papidulo » Sat Jun 3, 2017 7:22 pm

Ell Curry wrote:I don't think it's crazy for Cleveland to look at trading one of Love or Thompson for a wing because Lebron is only going to be better at the 4 than the 3 as he ages. Also, the Cavs might need someone to guard KD if it turns out Lebron can't. If you trade Thompson and start Love at the 5, you can probably grab a non-shooter since you still have 3 shooters around Lebron, and that guy can be the roller.

Maybe after he signs his max deal, an Otto Porter for Love deadline deal would make sense? or

I think instead of a big change like this, though, it probably just makes sense for Cleveland to find a wing with the new, bigger MLE like PJ Tucker or Joe Ingles or James Johnson or give up a 1st rounder for a wing like Robert Covington and then go into the tax to re-sign him and if the Warriors are too fast for a Thompson-Love-Lebron frontcourt or KD is unstoppable, just bring Thompson or Love off the bench and mainly play them at the 5 except for the 5 or so Lebron-less minutes and cut them each down to 25-30 minutes a game.


Wiz wouldn't trade their starting 3 for Love, and have 2 PFs and have no SF. I think the Cavs should try and get a cheaper stretch 4 like Ibaka who's a more versatile defender, and use the money saved to add more pieces like a pg or another SF
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#55 » by BleedGreen1989 » Sat Jun 3, 2017 9:11 pm

papidulo wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:I don't think it's crazy for Cleveland to look at trading one of Love or Thompson for a wing because Lebron is only going to be better at the 4 than the 3 as he ages. Also, the Cavs might need someone to guard KD if it turns out Lebron can't. If you trade Thompson and start Love at the 5, you can probably grab a non-shooter since you still have 3 shooters around Lebron, and that guy can be the roller.

Maybe after he signs his max deal, an Otto Porter for Love deadline deal would make sense? or

I think instead of a big change like this, though, it probably just makes sense for Cleveland to find a wing with the new, bigger MLE like PJ Tucker or Joe Ingles or James Johnson or give up a 1st rounder for a wing like Robert Covington and then go into the tax to re-sign him and if the Warriors are too fast for a Thompson-Love-Lebron frontcourt or KD is unstoppable, just bring Thompson or Love off the bench and mainly play them at the 5 except for the 5 or so Lebron-less minutes and cut them each down to 25-30 minutes a game.


Wiz wouldn't trade their starting 3 for Love, and have 2 PFs and have no SF. I think the Cavs should try and get a cheaper stretch 4 like Ibaka who's a more versatile defender, and use the money saved to add more pieces like a pg or another SF


WAS wouldn't trade a maxed out Porter for Kevin Love?

That sounds...off.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#56 » by papidulo » Sun Jun 4, 2017 12:00 am

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papidulo wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:I don't think it's crazy for Cleveland to look at trading one of Love or Thompson for a wing because Lebron is only going to be better at the 4 than the 3 as he ages. Also, the Cavs might need someone to guard KD if it turns out Lebron can't. If you trade Thompson and start Love at the 5, you can probably grab a non-shooter since you still have 3 shooters around Lebron, and that guy can be the roller.

Maybe after he signs his max deal, an Otto Porter for Love deadline deal would make sense? or

I think instead of a big change like this, though, it probably just makes sense for Cleveland to find a wing with the new, bigger MLE like PJ Tucker or Joe Ingles or James Johnson or give up a 1st rounder for a wing like Robert Covington and then go into the tax to re-sign him and if the Warriors are too fast for a Thompson-Love-Lebron frontcourt or KD is unstoppable, just bring Thompson or Love off the bench and mainly play them at the 5 except for the 5 or so Lebron-less minutes and cut them each down to 25-30 minutes a game.


Wiz wouldn't trade their starting 3 for Love, and have 2 PFs and have no SF. I think the Cavs should try and get a cheaper stretch 4 like Ibaka who's a more versatile defender, and use the money saved to add more pieces like a pg or another SF


WAS wouldn't trade a maxed out Porter for Kevin Love?

That sounds...off.


PF isn't a position of need though. The wizards need a defensively mobile center. Why trade a young SF w/ upside for a PF when they have a solid PF already?
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#57 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jun 4, 2017 6:27 am

Indy needs to trade Paul George to a team where he'd commit to stay, because that's the only way to get great value for him.

If the assets in return are ones they don't want, then the deal just needs to be expanded. So a three-way Cavs/Indy/TeamX makes a lot of sense.

Boston would surely love to get Love, although the mechanics of the deal would be hard if they succeed at signing Hayward, and they would presumably lose interest if they could sign Griffin.
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Post#58 » by jbk1234 » Sun Jun 4, 2017 7:07 am

Unless it's Butler or George, there's really no point. Those are the only two players who would actually help and possibly be available. Otherwise, Love isn't going anywhere.
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Post#59 » by jbk1234 » Sun Jun 4, 2017 7:08 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Indy needs to trade Paul George to a team where he'd commit to stay, because that's the only way to get great value for him.

If the assets in return are ones they don't want, then the deal just needs to be expanded. So a three-way Cavs/Indy/TeamX makes a lot of sense.

Boston would surely love to get Love, although the mechanics of the deal would be hard if they succeed at signing Hayward, and they would presumably lose interest if they could sign Griffin.


I'd be really nervous about any trade that sent Love to the Celtics.
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Re: What would Love get in a trade 

Post#60 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jun 4, 2017 7:37 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:Indy needs to trade Paul George to a team where he'd commit to stay, because that's the only way to get great value for him.

If the assets in return are ones they don't want, then the deal just needs to be expanded. So a three-way Cavs/Indy/TeamX makes a lot of sense.

Boston would surely love to get Love, although the mechanics of the deal would be hard if they succeed at signing Hayward, and they would presumably lose interest if they could sign Griffin.


I'd be really nervous about any trade that sent Love to the Celtics.


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