Woj: Lakers trade spare parts to Wiz, Davis waives $4m Kicker, Lakers have $32m in Cap Space

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Re: Woj: Lakers trade spare parts to Wiz, Davis waives $4m Kicker, Lakers have $32m in Cap Space 

Post#41 » by Laimbeer » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:51 pm

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I'd settle for him staying and meeting the Bron/AD/Kyrie Lakers in the finals. And toss in Boogie while we're at it.
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For entertainment purposes Kyrie to Lakers is my favorite scenario
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Post#43 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:01 pm

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NBADraft2003 wrote:So is the deal just LAL/Washington/New Orleans or LAL/Washington/New Orleans/Atlanta?


If I am not mistaken it’s two separate trades. I might be grossly off.

1st trade can be finalized now with Lakers,Pels and Wizards

2nd trade in July 6th between Lakers, Pels and Hawks.


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Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.
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Post#44 » by Resistance » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:14 pm

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AmusingFiddle wrote:
NBADraft2003 wrote:So is the deal just LAL/Washington/New Orleans or LAL/Washington/New Orleans/Atlanta?


If I am not mistaken it’s two separate trades. I might be grossly off.

1st trade can be finalized now with Lakers,Pels and Wizards

2nd trade in July 6th between Lakers, Pels and Hawks.


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Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.



Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.
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Post#45 » by VCfor3 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:29 pm

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Wasabi_Johnson wrote:
AmusingFiddle wrote:
If I am not mistaken it’s two separate trades. I might be grossly off.

1st trade can be finalized now with Lakers,Pels and Wizards

2nd trade in July 6th between Lakers, Pels and Hawks.


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Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.



Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.


It has to be one big trade in order for LAL to send out enough salary to legally take in AD without using cap space. If they break it up then the AD trade has to use cap space which defeats the purpose.
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Post#46 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:29 pm

Resistance wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:
AmusingFiddle wrote:
If I am not mistaken it’s two separate trades. I might be grossly off.

1st trade can be finalized now with Lakers,Pels and Wizards

2nd trade in July 6th between Lakers, Pels and Hawks.


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Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.



Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.

Touching isn't much of an issue. Trade would meet the touch requirement as long as what ever the Wizards are sending out goes to the Hawks or NO.
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Post#47 » by Resistance » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:34 pm

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Resistance wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.



Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.

Touching isn't much of an issue. Trade would meet the touch requirement as long as what ever the Wizards are sending out goes to the Hawks or NO.


I went back and reread about touching. The cash going to New Orleans satisfies the touching requirement.
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Post#48 » by pelifan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:37 pm

If the Lakers get a younger 3rd star all the sudden im not feeling so good about the Davis trade
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Post#49 » by loserX » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:38 pm

per Smitty:

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Post#50 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:48 pm

pelifan wrote:If the Lakers get a younger 3rd star all the sudden im not feeling so good about the Davis trade


This was my argument on the disincentive to allow a third team. The picks down the line might be devalued a lot if someone that can play with AD for years signs. Still a great trade. But something to consider.
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Post#51 » by VIPER8382 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:50 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
Resistance wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.



Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.


It has to be one big trade in order for LAL to send out enough salary to legally take in AD without using cap space. If they break it up then the AD trade has to use cap space which defeats the purpose.


This is completely incorrect, the Atlanta draft pick swap with NOP has nothing to do with the Laker's cap situation. The NOP and Wash portion must be a single trade though.
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Post#52 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:54 pm

loserX wrote:per Smitty:

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So he’s accounting for the 3 players LA dumped as the difference? I mean I love Smitty, but we’ve gone deeper than that
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Post#53 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:55 pm

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VCfor3 wrote:
Resistance wrote:

Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.


It has to be one big trade in order for LAL to send out enough salary to legally take in AD without using cap space. If they break it up then the AD trade has to use cap space which defeats the purpose.


This is completely incorrect, the Atlanta draft pick swap with NOP has nothing to do with the Laker's cap situation. The NOP and Wash portion must be a single trade though.

From LAL perspective they have to send out all their parts in one trade to get AD. I believe NO could benefit from one bigger trade exception by combining AD and Hill outgoing salary.
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Post#54 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:57 pm

Another reason for NO is waiving AD trade kicker saves them cash.
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Post#55 » by Resistance » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:02 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
Resistance wrote:
Wasabi_Johnson wrote:Think it has to be all one trade to be CBA legal. Do the whole deal at once July 6th.



Doing four teams (LA, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta) in the same trade means more touching issues to cover.

Washington, LA and New Orleans do their trade. Then Atlanta and New Orleans do their trade since the players selected in the 2019 draft won't have contracts to delay things.


It has to be one big trade in order for LAL to send out enough salary to legally take in AD without using cap space. If they break it up then the AD trade has to use cap space which defeats the purpose.



If I remember correctly, the Atlanta - New Orleans portion has the rights to #4 and S Hill going to Atlanta. The Hawks are sending the rights to some 2019 picks and some future picks going to New Orleans. As long as New Orleans has clear title to the rights to #4, then there shouldn't be any problem having that part being independent of the LA - Washington - New Orleans trade.
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Post#56 » by Karmaloop » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:15 am

pacers33granger wrote:I'm willing to give LA the benefit of the doubt that Griffin said we need to get this done right now so I can shop the pick before the draft and you can search for a 3rd team later but it's not my problem.


I think that's the most logical situation. David Griffin wanted to use that 4th pick as part of a trade, so he needed the deal in place to negotiate on draft night. Pelinka need to move the other 3, but Griffin didn't want them so both sides allowed each other to expand the deal.
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Post#57 » by youngcrev » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:01 am

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Post#58 » by Prospect Dong » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:32 am

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pelifan wrote:If the Lakers get a younger 3rd star all the sudden im not feeling so good about the Davis trade


This was my argument on the disincentive to allow a third team. The picks down the line might be devalued a lot if someone that can play with AD for years signs. Still a great trade. But something to consider.


Yeah, in Griffin's shoes I would have tried to say no to this if it wasn't baked into the original deal. At least hold out for an extra couple of seconds or changes to the pick protections or something...
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Post#59 » by NavalAviator94 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:42 am

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pacers33granger wrote:I'm willing to give LA the benefit of the doubt that Griffin said we need to get this done right now so I can shop the pick before the draft and you can search for a 3rd team later but it's not my problem.

I still have little faith that Pelinka has a clue what he's doing though. But props to LA for figuring it out and getting the max slot and Washington gets a look at a couple ok prospects for free, which is the type of moves they should be making.

it still remains to be seen if pelinka does know what hes doing when it comes to roster construction but the narrative that he doesnt know anything bout cap space is clealy a bias take...as an agent he was praised for knowing the ins n outs of how the cap worked


Exactly. My take is Magic isn’t in the know to leak accurately anymore.




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Post#60 » by WizardsWorld » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:23 am

Never been so ashamed to be a Wizards fan. The last thing in the world a team should want to do is help the Evil Empire... especially when all we get out of it is a freakin 2nd round pick in 2022.... like WTF.... Who does lebron have working behind the scenes in our front office? Ashamed of this embarrasment of an organization.

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