Underrated transaction of the offseason

[NuggetsWY]

As a Nugget fan, I want to say getting Grant is the most underrated transaction - but that might be next year as Millsap still eats most PF minutes.

For most impact this year, I'd say Bazemore might make the most difference of the "underrated transaction" category.

[babyjax13]

Rubio to the Suns, if he, once again, is able to turn the corner career wise, and continue off his FIBA stint

Homer shout to Dedmon to the Kings. WCS was garbage and a detriment. Dedmon excellent fit with Bagley and leaves that starting unit without holes Fox/Buddy/Barnes/Bagley/Dedmon

I don't know why people are suddenly buying back into the Rubio hype. He was really good in Utah, as good as he has ever been and likely ever will be. FIBA was a small sample size, and he is good at putting together 15 games stretches where he shoots really well. But, his jumper is fundamentally broken, everything about it is wrong. I don't understand how a player so fluid, with such good understanding of passing angles and high basketball IQ can be such a god-awful shooter. That being said, a spread floor will be a miracle for him. He will fit in really well with Phoenix and his strengths will be emphasized. I know they got a lot of crap, but they have a coherent team now, and that's better than we've been able to say for a long time.

[blind prophet]

The Warriors getting WCS on the cheap. Really like his fit for them.

[DetroitPistons]

Derrick Rose to the Pistons

[pillwenney]

My pick is Bojan Bogdonovic. Guy is the perfect third banana.


The Kings could have signed literally any center and it would be an upgrade on WCS. At least a Richaun Holmes, signed for note a lot of money and who is a third stringer, would be in the correct place on defense. So, I wouldn't exactly call it an underrated transaction. Maybe his fit with this Kings team is underrated though, I will give you that. (I know it was a homer shout out, not calling you out or anything like that!)

I mean, when I weigh a transaction, it usually means how it affects the team overall, and in turn who the said player is replacing as well. That’s how I’d read the topic.

Replacing Dedmon with WCS can mean the difference of 4 seeds to me. Is D’angelo Russell better? The transaction affects the Warriors less.

Given the answers I’m not sure I’m alone in that interpretation.

If we mean value of the signing as a stand-alone asset, which I personally don’t interpret as only answer to the question when I first read it, your right Holmes would be it on the Kings though not worth mentioning.

I think that we both think Dedmon is an upgrade, but I think that a lot of Kings fans see all the dumb mistakes that WCS makes and think he is less useful than your average third string center. I disagree with that. He is a very good rim runner, which is a skill that was used a ton by the Kings last year. I think Kings fans are going to be getting made fun of when WCS is average 10ppg with Golden State due to that skill alone. Sure, Dedmon will be a huge upgrade on the defensive end and as a fit with this team, but offensively he is not going to touch the ball as much as WCS did. I guess I am basically saying that I think he is a good incremental upgrade, but saying he is worth more than 2 or 3 wins over WCS is pushing it, IMO.

Now, if you take the Dedmon over WCS upgrade, the Ariza over Brewer upgrade, the Joseph over Ferrell upgrade, plus a full year of Barnes over the undersized Shumpert upgrade, that is where I think the Kings made big strides. Especially when Bogi gets to play more off the ball and having Ariza as a shooter off the bench over Brewer who can't shoot.

It was an offseason of small upgrades for the Kings that can add up to a lot. But if we are looking at a single transaction, players like Russell, Bojan, etc are just bigger moves.

He won't touch the ball very much, but simply spacing the floor so that Bagley can now really shine (WCS was a huge hindrance in this way last year) will be where the real offensive upgrade shows up.

[pillwenney]

I just don't understand what happened to WCS's shot blocking abilities after his SO year at KY. He looked like a Marcus Camby type pogo stick that year and its been all downhill since then with no injury to blame.

I don't think its a stretch to say Skal Labissiere could end up better than WCS in the long run still. Wouldn't bet on it, but even whispering that 1 year ago would be seen as nuts. I honestly don't expect WCS to be more than a 15mpg guy in GSW. He isn't breaking out.

He's honestly just as athletic as ever, but athleticism with a weak motor isn't really all that useful.

It's definitely possible Skal could still end up better than Willie, but like you, I wouldn't bet on it. While Skal does have some abilities that could allow him to develop into an interesting player, I'm not counting on it.

Willie will be a fine backup for GSW next year. Tough to say how many minutes he plays. One one hand, their best lineups have historically involved Draymond at center. On the other, they don't have the perimeter talent to make that happen any more, and Willie will be their best bench player (which is really not saying much). So I'd expect him to play a little more than that.

[Trader_Joe]

Derrick Rose to the Pistons

Good one, especially cause I keep forgetting he's there.

What's the backcourt rotation gonna look for you guys? A lot of guards it seems.

[Trader_Joe]

For the Nets, I think Prince will be a sneaky good addition/replacement for Demarre.

And speaking of former Nets, I think Davis is a great pickup for the Jazz to help offset the loss of Favors.

[LloydFree]

#1. Kevon Looney - 3 years 15 million

#2. Wes Matthews - minimum salary

For two contenders to each get a player capable of starting on their team, for almost no money, both moves should have received more attention.

[DetroitPistons]

Derrick Rose to the Pistons

Good one, especially cause I keep forgetting he's there.

What's the backcourt rotation gonna look for you guys? A lot of guards it seems.

We aren't sure what Casey will do yet. He seems to be obsessed with Bruce Brown for some reason but I personally would like to see Jackson, Rose, and Kennard getting the majority of the guard minutes with Rose shifting to SG at times.

[100proof]

Dedmon signing was a good one.

Also like the Kanter signing for Boston.

Boston's biggest weakness in recent years has been lack of front court size and rebounding. Kanter gives that, and at a price that was probably less than he could/should have gotten