[Woj] Horford, Ferg, 1st, 2nd for Danny Green

tiderulz · Post #41 » by **tiderulz** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:45 pm

does anyone else have a 1st round draft pick in the next couple of years or does OKC own them all?

Post #42 » by **loserX** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:46 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #43 » by **BullyKing** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:46 pm

I guess the trade is fine but I just can't get over how much damage Elton Brand managed to do in a single year.

ejftw · Post #44 » by **ejftw** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:47 pm

Wow, if Philly can develop Ferguson's jumper, it's an even bigger steal

Post #45 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:47 pm

loserX wrote:

Read on Twitter

Ty Jerome can use some competition, I guess.

gom · Post #46 » by **gom** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:47 pm

R-DAWG wrote:Very solid deal for Philly. Not only do you clean up a mistake in Horford, adding Green as a defender/floor spacer will really help their team.

Simmons/Green/Richardson/Harris/EMBIID

Wouldn't be surprised to this expanded with Philly taking back additional pieces from a 3rd team - they have about $15MM or so to play with in a trade and need bench help.

FTFY

psman2 · Post #47 » by **psman2** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:48 pm

BullyKing wrote:I guess the trade is fine but I just can't get over how much damage Elton Brand managed to do in a single year.

And rewarded with an extension for his efforts. Crazy.

Post #48 » by **Domejandro** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:49 pm

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You guys would not **** believe how annoyed I was when Minnesota did not jump in to select Vasilije Micić. I literally have a trade on here from 2015 trying to grease him for Minnesota.

I used to be really damn solid at second round talent evaluation, back when I was younger. Micić is going to be an adequate backup.

Post #49 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:49 pm

This doesn't really make Philly better or not much. I'm underwhelmed for them. It's perfectly fine value wise but doesn't feel like it really addresses the root of their issues. More to come I guess?

Post #50 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:49 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:It’s Morey and Presti. They both know exactly what they are doing here. And both probably correctly think they won the trade. Philly trying to win now. Sam is setting up a truckload of picks years from now that as HW said are high variance.

I heard an interview with morey once and he said the key to making trades is to find a GM with the same philosophy as you but you have to be at different places with building your team. Pretty much this.

tobysunsfan · Post #51 » by **tobysunsfan** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:50 pm

Home run trade for the Sixers, get two decent role players in Ferguson and Green and off Horford. It's a shame to get rid of a first and high second, especially when you're ultra capped out, but at least it's not 5 picks, some teams would pay a first just to get Green and Ferguson.

Post #52 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:51 pm

ejftw wrote:Wow, if Philly can develop Ferguson's jumper, it's an even bigger steal

No way. Getting rid of Ferguson is what I like the most about this trade

Post #53 » by **loserX** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:51 pm

Salary impact:

Philly saves/OKC takes on:
20/21: $12,134,146
21/22: $27,000,000
22/23: $26,500,000 or can cut him for $14,500,000 dead money

That is a LOT. Horford is still productive but I have this as a clear win for Philly.

psman2 · Post #54 » by **psman2** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:53 pm

tobysunsfan wrote:Home run trade for the Sixers, get two decent role players in Ferguson and Green and off Horford. It's a shame to get rid of a first and high second, especially when you're ultra capped out, but at least it's not 5 picks, some teams would pay a first just to get Green and Ferguson.

If that was true then Presti would have made that trade. I got Ferguson as a negative contract that no team would give even cap space for. Green too was not fetching a 1st without long term bad money coming to OKC which is what just happened.

Post #55 » by **BullyKing** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:54 pm

loserX wrote:Salary impact:

Philly saves/OKC takes on:
20/21: $12,134,146
21/22: $27,000,000
22/23: $26,500,000 or can cut him for $14,500,000 dead money

That is a LOT. Horford is still productive but I have this as a clear win for Philly.

I mean it's a win if your goal is for our owner to turn a profit but I can't really say it's a win when if we're minimally better if at all and still have zero cap space for the next millennium.

shrink · Post #56 » by **shrink** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:54 pm

OKC Chamber of Commerce asked Presti if he could get the city to host a future NBA Draft.

“Well Adam, most of these draftees 1-30 will be staying here, so why not draft them here?”

Post #57 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:55 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:This doesn't really make Philly better or not much. I'm underwhelmed for them. It's perfectly fine value wise but doesn't feel like it really addresses the root of their issues. More to come I guess?

That was what my take was in the redundant thread:
OKC got the high variance and "lightly protected distant 1st", while Philly got less long term money but not any better. Bitter pill to swallow on its own.

Post #58 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:56 pm

Small scale, but giving #34 versus #36 could be annoying.

Whole Truth · Post #59 » by **Whole Truth** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:56 pm

GutUNC · Post #60 » by **GutUNC** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:This doesn't really make Philly better or not much. I'm underwhelmed for them. It's perfectly fine value wise but doesn't feel like it really addresses the root of their issues. More to come I guess?

They added 2 shooters and got rid of 1 of their 2 starting centers. I mean, it's certainly not the magic wand that makes them contenders or anything, but how does it not address their needs (particularly with adding salary flexibility starting next year.

I think the value is good both ways as well. Definitely proves wrong the people who swore it would take at least 2 1sts just to get off Horford's deal.

Green for Horford and picks: your take?