[WOJ] PJ Tucker to MIL

[Phobo_Phile]

I don't think I can add more than what I already see here. This is a great return for the Rockets and definitely the best out of the recent fad of "we've mutually agreed to part ways." Add onto it that PJ Tucker has looked totally washed this year. The Bucks seem to be reeking of desperation.

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[kingcong95]

I actually like Kurucs as a sneaky pickup for Milwaukee in this deal. However, I think PJ Tucker may be running on empty at this point, and I don't see why the Bucks would make their 2023 pick unprotected. Also, I thought Augustin was an important rotation player for them.

The key to the deal for Houston was probably to swap their early 2nd for a late 1st this year, which is probably better value than the late 2nds other teams were offering. Per Stepien rule, in order to do that, the Bucks needed to get their 2022 1st back, which is why they gave the Rockets their 2023 1st.

I do wonder what the Bucks plan to do about backup PG. This deal leaves them with 13 players on the roster, and they have hard cap room to sign two rest-of-season deal. Perhaps they can create more flexibility if they find another team to take Kurucs, but completely getting out of the tax is a longshot. I think he was only required to make the numbers match up since he couldn't get off the bench for the Rockets until all their guys started going down.

[MoneyTalks41890]

I like that GMs are using more of the creativity available to them in deals like this. I would’ve liked this better without the 21 swap action because MIL could’ve used the 21 first for another upgrade. They can still do so with the Rockets 2nd, but doesn’t necessarily carry the same sticker value as being able to trade their 1st

[MoneyTalks41890]

I don’t mean to pile on but where would Milwaukee be right now if they’d traded for Chris Paul? A lot of those he’s not needed he’s old etc comments look very bad at the moment.

[eminence]

Think this helps the Bucks try to win this season and solid value for the Rockets. Win win in my book, Bucks obviously taking on more risk, as I'm not sure PJ returning to form is a given.

[K_chile22]

Think this helps the Bucks try to win this season and solid value for the Rockets. Win win in my book, Bucks obviously taking on more risk, as I'm not sure PJ returning to form is a given.

Same. I am biased but I think the rockets won a little more if I had to chose, but I don't think Milwaukee did too bad. A lot of people were being unrealisticly low on what tuck would return on this board

[zimpy27]

(At quick glance, this also gets the Bucks out of the tax.)

So that's a benefit that I missed but I still don't like. Augustin has been decent enough and he's signed for a few years which for a team with as little flexibility as the Bucks strikes me as a good thing. The first round swap this year is a little much for Tucker for my taste especially since you're not just sending back useless expirings.

Augustin has been legitimately awful, has a NG'd third year, and no this doesn't get us out of the tax.

Giannis, Jrue, DDV had their best 2-man lineups with Augustin. He's a good fit to start with Jrue or be a backup with DDV. Augustin looked terrible with Bryn and BroLo, both of these guys should've been traded for a PG.

I do think Tucker is an ideal fit for the Bucks though so it's still a neutral trade IMO.

Anyway, who do you think the Bucks trade BroLo for? Hill? Rubio?

[Texas Chuck]

So to be clear here the picks as it sits today is #26 for #33. Then they pushed the 22 pick to 23? I had Augustine as awful money.

7 spots as of today and pushing a pick back 1 year for Tucker and Kuruks? I woulda asked for House, but this is the kind of shifty move a team like Milwaukee needed to make to improve the front court. Watch out for the Tucker resurgence.

And with Craig portion, totally out of the tax right?

I have this as a definite win for the Bucks.

[Sparkey67]

The early second round picks are more valuable than the last 6 picks of the 1st rd because there is no guaranteed contract tied to 2nd round picks.

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[Stillwater]

seems as if Bucks are all in this season lol good luck

[Vae Victus]

I do wonder what the Bucks plan to do about backup PG. This deal leaves them with 13 players on the roster, and they have hard cap room to sign two rest-of-season deal. Perhaps they can create more flexibility if they find another team to take Kurucs, but completely getting out of the tax is a longshot. I think he was only required to make the numbers match up since he couldn't get off the bench for the Rockets until all their guys started going down.

I think Lin is a great option for MIL to pickup to fill in for Agustin's spot.

Lin's bigger (same size as Forbes), can plakymake, good locker room soldier, and appears to be healthy. He had a great GLeague bubble showing, where he played very well, shooting extremely well, and under control. As s backup 10-15 min vet PG, you could do alot worse. It never made any sense to sign someone like DJ Augustin to real money when you can get vet min pickups like Lin.

Also Lin is desperate for a NBA return, he'd prolly be willing to sign a 10day or 2way deal, and if a better option shows up on the buyout market MIL can dump Lin and go pick up that player.

[BoogieTime]

Milwaukee’s unprotected is still the best thing on here. Anything can happen

[Ruzious]

I almost get the feeling Milwaukee wanted it to be so confusing so that nobody could tell for sure if it was bad or good.

[Ruzious]

Milwaukee’s unprotected is still the best thing on here. Anything can happen

2022 or 2023?

[youngcrev]

I don't hate it for the Bucks. I get that there's more uncertainty which a pick 2 years from now rather than 1 (which is why I like it for the Rockets), but this actually gives them the ability to trade that '21 pick now if they have something else in mind (not that I expect them to) and gets them out of the tax.

Oh, and then the obvious, PJ Tucker, who gives them a matchup piece and small ball 5 option. He was going to be a good add for any playoff team, plus this keeps him off the Nets and Sixers.

Edit: I clearly misread the part about the '21 swap and thought they were just giving them a 2nd. Feels a little more iffy. Great deal for the Rockets.

[Ruzious]

I don't hate it for the Bucks. I get that there's more uncertainty which a pick 2 years from now rather than 1 (which is why I like it for the Rockets), but this actually gives them the ability to trade that '21 pick now if they have something else in mind (not that I expect them to) and gets them out of the tax.

Oh, and then the obvious, PJ Tucker, who gives them a matchup piece and small ball 5 option. He was going to be a good add for any playoff team, plus this keeps him off the Nets and Sixers.

Except Tucker doesn't appear to be even half the player he used to be.

[BullyKing]

The early second round picks are more valuable than the last 6 picks of the 1st rd because there is no guaranteed contract tied to 2nd round picks.

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Oh god not this debate again. No, a first is always worth more than a second. You have a wider selection of players and its very rare that the (two year only) guaranteed contract is negative.

[Dr Positivity]

Giving up any unprotected 1st for Tucker seems like insanity, what if Giannis misses the year

[BoogieTime]

Milwaukee’s unprotected is still the best thing on here. Anything can happen

2022 or 2023?

I misread the trade..

[Laimbeer]

Pj is a 35 year old rental role player who looks washed. Wow.