Make Your Best Offer: Steven Adams

[enzino]

Kemba Walker, Tristan Thompson, 2021 FRP
for
Adams, Lonzo Ball

Lonzo is a free agent, so can’t have him and the current year first in the same deal unless you’re 100% willing to throw away the pick for nothing if Boston and Lonzo can’t come to agreement.

c's get a better bigman, some cap relief and a chance to sign Lonzo with bird rights

[Wolveswin]

Adams is a downgrade to Looney on the court?

He is a huge screen setting upgrade. Him setting picks for Curry would be pure lethal.

It would be like the Bogut days except the toughness would be real and the screens would be legal.

Bogut was a much better defender than Adams and on a smaller contract and he almost never closed games for us. The reality of the situation is there are very few C’s out there who are good enough defenders for the Warriors to close with them rather than Draymond or Looney at the 5. Adams is not one of them.

Who cares if he closes games or not. He is a 17M enforcer. Who also becomes best screen setter ever on roster that happens to service your two superstars greatly. It is like over paying for a personal catcher for star pitcher or goon enforcer to protected the goal scoring finesse player.

[Warriors Analyst]

It would be like the Bogut days except the toughness would be real and the screens would be legal.

Bogut was a much better defender than Adams and on a smaller contract and he almost never closed games for us. The reality of the situation is there are very few C’s out there who are good enough defenders for the Warriors to close with them rather than Draymond or Looney at the 5. Adams is not one of them.

Who cares if he closes games or not. He is a 17M enforcer. Who also becomes best screen setter ever on roster that happens to service your two superstars greatly. It is like over paying for a personal catcher for star pitcher or goon enforcer to protected the goal scoring finesse player.

$17 million dollars for a guy who plays 20-25 minutes at most and can't defend in crunch time? Pass. Adams is a good goon, no disputing that. But that's really the least of our concerns.

[Scoot McGroot]

Kemba Walker, Tristan Thompson, 2021 FRP
for
Adams, Lonzo Ball

Lonzo is a free agent, so can’t have him and the current year first in the same deal unless you’re 100% willing to throw away the pick for nothing if Boston and Lonzo can’t come to agreement.

c's get a better bigman, some cap relief and a chance to sign Lonzo with bird rights

I think you don’t understand. I’m not commenting on the valuation. I’m commenting that your deal doesn’t legally work.

New Orleans doesn’t have the cap space to trade Steven Adams for Kamba Walker and Tristan Thompson. If Lonzo is included as a S&T, then you can’t also include the first round pick in 2021 coming back, due to timing.

You can’t just trade Lonzo’s “Bird Rights” or qualifying offer rights. He would have to sign a new deal, which he can’t even begin negotiations with Boston until after the draft, historically.

Legally, your deal doesn’t work.

[slos]

I think Brooklyn needs a mention here in case they don't manage to outscore everyone. DAJ + a combination of Shamet/Claxton/#25 should be enough.

- Nets complete their team with Kyrie/Harden/Harris/KD/Adams and Dinwiddie 6th.

- Pels cut 15 mil over the next two years for their starting C and open minutes for Hayes. They also add shooting with Shamet and another young prospect (Claxton and/or #25).

[NYG]

Adams and Bledsoe for Kemba?

[Resistance]

Adams and Bledsoe for Kemba?

I have New Orleans willing to give up a bit of compensation to lower the total money owed. Trading for Kemba increases the total money owed. New Orleans needs to step it up on defense and Kemba isn't the solution for that.

[zimpy27]

Adams and Bledsoe for Kemba?

Can't find a fit in the league for Kemba. Maybe Bulls? All other teams that need a PG all value defense.

[Prospect Dong]

TLDR; don’t see NOP trading Adams since they need him and he has no trade value.. But understand him and Zion haven’t played amazing together. that doesn’t mean I’d throw Hayes and an MLE or rookie in there full time so I would be keeping Adams unless I’m trading for a center

This feels bad for NOP, but Dallas’ insulting offer? As Ingram shouldn’t be traded.. KP, Brunson, 2027 first for Ingram, Adams, Bledsoe? Maybe less insulting if there was any max free agents this offseason to chase for NOP. Maybe if some superstar becomes available then this becomes possible? Brunson+Dallas first, NOP lottery pick, and a large stack of NOP’s owned firsts?

I would do Powell/Adams once we use our cap space (or immediately if we aren’t acting as a team under the cap)

Some three team deal with Minnesota like; Rubio to Chicago, Sato+Aminu to NOP, Adams and 2nds to Minnesota? Seems to help all three teams if we pretend NOP is looking to move Adams.

Maybe Ross+Bamba for Adams+11? Orlando gets another lottery pick and NOP gets a vet 3/d and a young center that can spread the floor?

If Holmes signs in Dallas/Char or wherever, Sac might be willing to take Adams for cheap/free? Or Bagley for Adams+11? If NOP feels they can develop Bagley into a stretch five next to Zion?

Next year will be year three for Hayes. If he's going to be a starter, he ought to be one by then. You'll want an ok-to-good backup C to go with the minutes you spend with Zion and/or some other guy as your small ball center. But acceptable-to-good backup Cs will be available for the vet min any time you want one.

[Scoot McGroot]

I think Brooklyn needs a mention here in case they don't manage to outscore everyone. DAJ + a combination of Shamet/Claxton/#25 should be enough.

- Nets complete their team with Kyrie/Harden/Harris/KD/Adams and Dinwiddie 6th.

- Pels cut 15 mil over the next two years for their starting C and open minutes for Hayes. They also add shooting with Shamet and another young prospect (Claxton and/or #25).

I would imagine Brooklyn would view giving up Claxton as too much for Adams.

[MoneyTalks41890]

I think Brooklyn needs a mention here in case they don't manage to outscore everyone. DAJ + a combination of Shamet/Claxton/#25 should be enough.

- Nets complete their team with Kyrie/Harden/Harris/KD/Adams and Dinwiddie 6th.

- Pels cut 15 mil over the next two years for their starting C and open minutes for Hayes. They also add shooting with Shamet and another young prospect (Claxton and/or #25).

I would imagine Brooklyn would view giving up Claxton as too much for Adams.

Yeah I think Shamet+25 deals with the salary differences.

[Mike lorenzo]

Adams and Bledsoe for Kemba?

Can't find a fit in the league for Kemba. Maybe Bulls? All other teams that need a PG all value defense.

How about his native NY.
The Knicks are playing Rose, Keba doesn't make them worse defensive end ...

Kemba / Smarth to Knicks ..
KNICKS suck Kemba's contract, and he gets Smarth ..
Kemba/Draft
Smarth/Quickley
Barrett/Burks
Randle/Toppin
Robinson /Noel or Kanter

Thompson / Knox to THUNDER for Horford
THUNDER saves a ton ..

Horford / Rubio to BOSTON ...
maybe little talent degradation, but a perfect fit to Brown / Tatum ..

Rubio
*Fournier
Brown
Tatum
Horford

Bazley to TIMBERWOLVES
save, and get a prospect in a position of need

[jbk1234]

Kemba Walker, Tristan Thompson, 2021 FRP
for
Adams, Lonzo Ball

Lonzo is a free agent, so can’t have him and the current year first in the same deal unless you’re 100% willing to throw away the pick for nothing if Boston and Lonzo can’t come to agreement.

c's get a better bigman, some cap relief and a chance to sign Lonzo with bird rights

That's not how it works. He's a RFA.

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[kalenclayton]

If Richaun Holmes is leaving the Kings, I can see the possibility of a Steven Adams-Buddy Hield framework deal. I’m trying to figure out which side needs to add, but I think it’s close. The Kings lack toughness and proper screen setting (among other things), which Adams would remedy. He’s not ideal for spacing and speed, but he would absolutely help Fox and Haliburton. The Pelicans would really benefit from Buddy’s spacing.

[jbk1234]

If Richaun Holmes is leaving the Kings, I can see the possibility of a Steven Adams-Buddy Hield framework deal. I’m trying to figure out which side needs to add, but I think it’s close. The Kings lack toughness and proper screen setting (among other things), which Adams would remedy. He’s not ideal for spacing and speed, but he would absolutely help Fox and Haliburton. The Pelicans would really benefit from Buddy’s spacing.

If the Pels lose Ball and the Kings lose Holmes, I can see it.

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[MoneyTalks41890]

If Richaun Holmes is leaving the Kings, I can see the possibility of a Steven Adams-Buddy Hield framework deal. I’m trying to figure out which side needs to add, but I think it’s close. The Kings lack toughness and proper screen setting (among other things), which Adams would remedy. He’s not ideal for spacing and speed, but he would absolutely help Fox and Haliburton. The Pelicans would really benefit from Buddy’s spacing.

I love the idea of Adams with Fox and Hali. Barnes actually fits decently well in there too but ideally you’d get some switchy snipers at the forward spots.

[Couch Potato]

Adams and Bledsoe for Kemba?

Can't find a fit in the league for Kemba. Maybe Bulls? All other teams that need a PG all value defense.

For PG? Ya... But I was gonna say Bulls don't need Adams they just traded for Vucevic for center.