Offseason Brogdon sweepstakes

[hugepatsfan]

Horford/Langford/Nesmith/our ‘22 1st for Brogdon and Hield would be my offer.

BOS runs with a rotation of:

Smart
Brogdon / Hield
Brown / Richardson
Tatum / G Williams
R Williams / TPE or MLE acquisition

Only run a 9 man rotation because assuming they’d stagger the time Smart and Brogdon sit, plus they’re apparently happy to give J-Rich on ball duties like he has in Miami if they trade Schroder.

Expiring salary and a pick seems to be the offers for Brogdon. This adds in a Hield salary dump. Nesmith and Langford are just salary filler for the most part but maybe some developmental potential there.

There's also Pritchard. Or you don't really count on him and he's available?

I think Pritchard can play well enough to be in a rotation. But Ime Udoka isn't giving him any run right now and don't see why that would change next year if they make my proposed trade here. So even though I have him out of the team that'd be the 9 guys I imagine Ime plays.

Now, if you're asking would I include him in the trade... sure. Pritchard/Langford/Nesmith are all nothings to me really when it comes to trades. I do still hold out hope for all of them being back end rotation players but they have no real trade value. Include any or all of them as far as I'm concerned.

[Scoot McGroot]

I think the Pacers keep him. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield is a pretty nice guard rotation. Primarily need a 3/4 if he does get traded. Think Hield is more likely to go attached to an asset or two.

Also, TJ McConnell, and we really like Duane Washington as a developmental guy. And that’s before the draft.

[Topofthekey]

I think the Pacers keep him. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield is a pretty nice guard rotation. Primarily need a 3/4 if he does get traded. Think Hield is more likely to go attached to an asset or two.

Yup. The sensible move is to deal Brogdon for a 3/4. It mostly depends on what the draft produces for Pacers, but a 3/4 kind of player seems to be the most likely option

Assuming they keep Turner:

Turner
Banchero?
???
Duarte
Haliburton

Brogdon should theoretically be moved for the ??? player

[Ell Curry]

I don't think Indy will be in a hurry to move Brogdon. They'll probably try to make the playoffs if they can get a top 3 pick and get competent forward play from Banchero/Chet/Jabari, but their youth will end up seeing them be a play-in type team and then at the deadline they can wait and see if someone overpays for Brogdon. But yeah, he's 29, so moving him does make sense.

He's a perfect fit on the Raptors if they'd take a late first and whoever we deal Dragic for, but Indy can do better.

[Ell Curry]

I like Pat Williams for Indy if there's a 3 way deal to be had where the 3rd team gets Brogdon and the Bulls get a decent forward, though Brogdon makes 14M more than Williams does so there's some trickiness unless the 3rd team has cap space.

[patman66]

Boston? Horford + 2 picks?

He is hurt too often for me. He missed 20 games a year in his 20s, I expect that to get worse going forward. I don't mind riding Horford for another 1/2 year then trying to use his salry to bring back something with more years on it. At the break next year, I would like to see something like a hield/horford deal with the celts eating the last year of Hield's deal.

[patman66]

I think the Pacers keep him. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield is a pretty nice guard rotation. Primarily need a 3/4 if he does get traded. Think Hield is more likely to go attached to an asset or two.

It is going to take a first next summer to move on from the last two years of that deal. Unless you take on absolute garbage back.

[Skin]

What about Brogdon for Wendell Carter Jr + stuff?

[Def Leppard]

Just came to say, love the guy

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[basketballwacko2]

Why does Brogdon have to go? I like Hali+Brogs.

Why is Brodgon definitely gone? Explain to someone who doesn't follow Indy that closely.

It seems like a Hali/Brodgon backcourt would be very effective. Hield can be a bench guy and probably isn't a key long-term guy for Indy (more needed to match money in the trade). Duarte looks like a credible rotation guy but more a backup who can start in case of injury than a solid starter (and as a 24 yo rookie I'm not expecting that much improvement).

I don't see Indy looking for a deep reset. Hali/Brodgon/Turner is a good start. Just need to fill out the forwards. Probably draft one, use cap space for a 2nd and hope Warren comes back healthy for a 3rd.

Because Duarte is a dude, and definitely needs to be starting at the 2 spot. He's starter every day quality already. Then, use Brogdon to help get those forwards, maybe you draft one, and then you've got your lineup running. But mostly, Brogdon wants to be the PG. And Hali should be the PG long-term. Add in McConnell, Buddy, and even Duane Washington Jr. off the bench, and there's a ton of guards that should get some minutes.

I guess from a distance Duarte looks more like just a guy then a dude. Nice for a rookie, but currently well below what you'd want from a starter. At 24, not likely to have the sort of improvement that a 20 yo rookie would have to develop into a solid starter. IMO if Brodgon gets traded then the Pacers are down to one starting quality guard (and then several solid backup quality guards).

How would you know what the future has in store for Duarte? Wasn't Brogdan about the same age when he came into the NBA? And Duarte is already better than Brogdan was a rookie, and shows no sign of being as brittle.

[basketballwacko2]

brogdon and 3frps for simmons.

I don't even want Simmons and certainly not for 3 #1 picks.

[hugepatsfan]

If the Simmons saga drags on to the offseason, I do really love the idea of IND trading Brogdon for him. Turner as a stretch 5, Buddy as an off ball shooter, Hali as an on-ball/off-ball PG... I think Simmons fits that lineup EXTREMELY well.

[patman66]

What about Brogdon for Wendell Carter Jr + stuff?

Please explain your logic on this? Unless it is fultz going back out with Carter it makes no sense at all. You already got Fultz and Issac eating up 1/3rd of the cap in the tub and now you want to add a 29 year Brogdon to a team with Anthony, hampton and suggs already?
And Bamba a free agent?

[Skin]

What about Brogdon for Wendell Carter Jr + stuff?

Please explain your logic on this? Unless it is fultz going back out with Carter it makes no sense at all. You already got Fultz and Issac eating up 1/3rd of the cap in the tub and now you want to add a 29 year Brogdon to a team with Anthony, hampton and suggs already?
And Bamba a free agent?

Brogdon can offer a lot to the Magic. Eases the pressure on Fultz and gives the Magic someone who can hit 3s at a better clip from the position. He can also play SG so the versatility is a plus.

You mention the crowd of young talent but have not analyzed it with a finer eye. Cole Anthony is starting caliber chucker, not a starting caliber player. His main goal is to be famous. I could see Anthony thriving down the line in his career, but there is concern on how he will be once Fultz comes back. His big personality could be problematic if he doesn't get his way. Hampton is a tweener who is also not a starting caliber talent. A backcourt of Brogdon, Fultz, Suggs is ideal. Nice combination of veteran leadership and developing talent. Magic can prevent cannibalism among youngsters if they bring in Brogdon and ship out at least one of Cole/RJ. Use assets to create more roster balance.

WCj is a keeper for many Magic fans, but his defense is undesirable and there are bigs who are in this draft... Jabari, Paolo, Chet who the Magic could draft. Plus Isaac is still very much in the Magic's plans. So once again, using assets to create roster balance is the goal.

[Topofthekey]

If the Simmons saga drags on to the offseason, I do really love the idea of IND trading Brogdon for him. Turner as a stretch 5, Buddy as an off ball shooter, Hali as an on-ball/off-ball PG... I think Simmons fits that lineup EXTREMELY well.

Depends on what we're talking about

Simmons the player?

Oh yes please, that would be an extremely exciting young squad on the rise

Simmons the diva?

Could quickly turn things into an 18 car pile up

[tiderulz]

What about Brogdon for Wendell Carter Jr + stuff?

Please explain your logic on this? Unless it is fultz going back out with Carter it makes no sense at all. You already got Fultz and Issac eating up 1/3rd of the cap in the tub and now you want to add a 29 year Brogdon to a team with Anthony, hampton and suggs already?
And Bamba a free agent?

Brogdon can offer a lot to the Magic. Eases the pressure on Fultz and gives the Magic someone who can hit 3s at a better clip from the position. He can also play SG so the versatility is a plus.

You mention the crowd of young talent but have not analyzed it with a finer eye. Cole Anthony is starting caliber chucker, not a starting caliber player. His main goal is to be famous. I could see Anthony thriving down the line in his career, but there is concern on how he will be once Fultz comes back. His big personality could be problematic if he doesn't get his way. Hampton is a tweener who is also not a starting caliber talent. A backcourt of Brogdon, Fultz, Suggs is ideal. Nice combination of veteran leadership and developing talent. Magic can prevent cannibalism among youngsters if they bring in Brogdon and ship out at least one of Cole/RJ. Use assets to create more roster balance.

WCj is a keeper for many Magic fans, but his defense is undesirable and there are bigs who are in this draft... Jabari, Paolo, Chet who the Magic could draft. Plus Isaac is still very much in the Magic's plans. So once again, using assets to create roster balance is the goal.

would help if he could get on the court. I seriously doubt we ever see him on the court playing more than 50% of his potential or previous defensive play.

[giannis and 1]

imo Brogdon is more of a sg than a pg. If you have him as your "floor general", you are not getting enough offensive creativity there. He would be a good pg on a team that already has a dynamic floor general like Denver (Jokic), LA (Lebron), Dallas (Doncic). Now that I think of it, he would be a perfect fit on the Mavs.

[Wizop]

imo Brogdon is more of a sg than a pg. If you have him as your "floor general", you are not getting enough offensive creativity there.

Hence Haliburton.

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[jayjaysee]

Spencer and a 2025 unprotected first?

This will be a theme

[Scoot McGroot]

Spencer and a 2025 unprotected first?

This will be a theme

How rude.



But it is a bit rude to suggest.