Malik Beasley cleared - who’s signing him?

[Scoot McGroot]

https://defector.com/the-feds-unlike-shams-charania-have-not-cleared-malik-beasleys-gambling-case




Yeah, I doubt we’re seeing Beasley in the nba this year.

yeah it was weird how people took a carefully crafted statement from his lawyer and ran it with as total vindication. Note: he might well not be guilty of anything and I believe in the presumption of innocence. But NBA teams aren't likely to rush to sign a good, but great player, still mixed up in this. Too little to gain. Detroit moving on so quickly tells us something too.

For what it's worth, I think the Defector article is overcorrecting a bit in its attempt to dunk on Shams. "Subject" and "target" are terms of art in this context and mean specific things - if Beasley was a target, but is no longer a target and now just a subject, it would be unlikely (but certainly not impossible) that he ultimately gets charged with a crime.

Yeah. I do think teams are going to be very cautious here and probably wait until the case is a bit more wrapped up? Or rather, more public, and they can make their own decisions rather than lean on Beasley’s lawyers?

[Scoot McGroot]

yeah it was weird how people took a carefully crafted statement from his lawyer and ran it with as total vindication. Note: he might well not be guilty of anything and I believe in the presumption of innocence. But NBA teams aren't likely to rush to sign a good, but great player, still mixed up in this. Too little to gain. Detroit moving on so quickly tells us something too.

For what it's worth, I think the Defector article is overcorrecting a bit in its attempt to dunk on Shams. "Subject" and "target" are terms of art in this context and mean specific things - if Beasley was a target, but is no longer a target and now just a subject, it would be unlikely (but certainly not impossible) that he ultimately gets charged with a crime.

Yeah. I do think teams are going to be very cautious here and probably wait until the case is a bit more wrapped up? Or rather, more public, and they can make their own decisions rather than lean on Beasley’s lawyers?

Rather, I think teams are going to exercise an over abundance of caution with a player that is associated in any way with a gambling scandal, and are going to want to see the outlay of the case before making a decision here.

[gswhoops]

For what it's worth, I think the Defector article is overcorrecting a bit in its attempt to dunk on Shams. "Subject" and "target" are terms of art in this context and mean specific things - if Beasley was a target, but is no longer a target and now just a subject, it would be unlikely (but certainly not impossible) that he ultimately gets charged with a crime.

Yeah. I do think teams are going to be very cautious here and probably wait until the case is a bit more wrapped up? Or rather, more public, and they can make their own decisions rather than lean on Beasley’s lawyers?

Rather, I think teams are going to exercise an over abundance of caution with a player that is associated in any way with a gambling scandal, and are going to want to see the outlay of the case before making a decision here.

That's the prudent approach. Certainly for a guy like Beasley, who is a good player but not the kind of game changer you'd make a 50/50 call on.

[toooskies]

Yeah. I do think teams are going to be very cautious here and probably wait until the case is a bit more wrapped up? Or rather, more public, and they can make their own decisions rather than lean on Beasley’s lawyers?

Rather, I think teams are going to exercise an over abundance of caution with a player that is associated in any way with a gambling scandal, and are going to want to see the outlay of the case before making a decision here.

That's the prudent approach. Certainly for a guy like Beasley, who is a good player but not the kind of game changer you'd make a 50/50 call on.

I don’t know, teams have taken bigger risks on worse players. A team could give him a non-guaranteed deal so they can dump him if something actually negative emerges.

[fanforlife]

Given Beasley's seemingly precarious financial situation, it would be quite understandable if he signs for the most money irregardless of the team. It is not clear, however, that any of the teams that can offer more money than the Pistons are interested in him. As discussed above, there is still real risk. In this regard, it may not even be the case that the Pistons are willing to quickly sign him to a $7.2 million contract especially given the moves they have made this off season.

[Skybox]

Pistons may move on with Robinson in house...some lucky team will pick up an elite shooter for peanuts when it becomes apparent his choices are very limited. Hate to say it but Lakers on a one-year vet min is generally the best bet

[gswhoops]

Rather, I think teams are going to exercise an over abundance of caution with a player that is associated in any way with a gambling scandal, and are going to want to see the outlay of the case before making a decision here.

That's the prudent approach. Certainly for a guy like Beasley, who is a good player but not the kind of game changer you'd make a 50/50 call on.

I don’t know, teams have taken bigger risks on worse players. A team could give him a non-guaranteed deal so they can dump him if something actually negative emerges.

I'd be less concerned about something from the past coming to light and more concerned about what happens if he does it again. I could definitely see someone suing the team if they signed someone with a "known" history of being involved in gambling and they lost money as a result of him doing it again.

Hopefully Beasley treats this whole investigation as a come to Jesus moment and stays a mile away from anything even remotely gambling-related going forward. But if he doesn't...

[Scoot McGroot]

That's the prudent approach. Certainly for a guy like Beasley, who is a good player but not the kind of game changer you'd make a 50/50 call on.

I don’t know, teams have taken bigger risks on worse players. A team could give him a non-guaranteed deal so they can dump him if something actually negative emerges.

I'd be less concerned about something from the past coming to light and more concerned about what happens if he does it again. I could definitely see someone suing the team if they signed someone with a "known" history of being involved in gambling and they lost money as a result of him doing it again.

Hopefully Beasley treats this whole investigation as a come to Jesus moment and stays a mile away from anything even remotely gambling-related going forward. But if he doesn't...

Also, it would be one thing if Beasley ONLY had the gambling investigation going on. But Beasley also has a bunch of lawsuits coming at him for financial issues. He reportedly hasn't been paying much of anything the last year or two. I doubt team's want to possibly involve themselves in discovery, or any association with Beasley until some things are solved?

[gswhoops]

I don’t know, teams have taken bigger risks on worse players. A team could give him a non-guaranteed deal so they can dump him if something actually negative emerges.

I'd be less concerned about something from the past coming to light and more concerned about what happens if he does it again. I could definitely see someone suing the team if they signed someone with a "known" history of being involved in gambling and they lost money as a result of him doing it again.

Hopefully Beasley treats this whole investigation as a come to Jesus moment and stays a mile away from anything even remotely gambling-related going forward. But if he doesn't...

Also, it would be one thing if Beasley ONLY had the gambling investigation going on. But Beasley also has a bunch of lawsuits coming at him for financial issues. He reportedly hasn't been paying much of anything the last year or two. I doubt team's want to possibly involve themselves in discovery, or any association with Beasley until some things are solved?

Yeah…and the financial issues certainly factor into your risk assessment of “will he do some dumb gambling related stuff in the future”

[toooskies]

I'd be less concerned about something from the past coming to light and more concerned about what happens if he does it again. I could definitely see someone suing the team if they signed someone with a "known" history of being involved in gambling and they lost money as a result of him doing it again.

Hopefully Beasley treats this whole investigation as a come to Jesus moment and stays a mile away from anything even remotely gambling-related going forward. But if he doesn't...

Also, it would be one thing if Beasley ONLY had the gambling investigation going on. But Beasley also has a bunch of lawsuits coming at him for financial issues. He reportedly hasn't been paying much of anything the last year or two. I doubt team's want to possibly involve themselves in discovery, or any association with Beasley until some things are solved?

I'd take that risk if I had a meaningful hole on a contending team that he could fill for virtually no commitment. I'd probably pay a body man to follow him around and keep him out of trouble, given all the money you're saving on what he should be paid.

[gswhoops]

Also, it would be one thing if Beasley ONLY had the gambling investigation going on. But Beasley also has a bunch of lawsuits coming at him for financial issues. He reportedly hasn't been paying much of anything the last year or two. I doubt team's want to possibly involve themselves in discovery, or any association with Beasley until some things are solved?

I'd take that risk if I had a meaningful hole on a contending team that he could fill for virtually no commitment. I'd probably pay a body man to follow him around and keep him out of trouble, given all the money you're saving on what he should be paid.

That would help certainly. I think there are a fair number of teams who are going to decide that the juice isn't worth the squeeze here for the additional work and headaches that would be needed to keep Beasley on the straight and narrow. Only takes one team to sign him though.

[giannis and 1]

I think it’s either Pistons or Heat.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think it's no one

[Snakebites]

It appears right now that nobody can sign him until the league is satisfied that he's fit to play in the NBA. And that's still up in the air.

As of right now the Pistons are the only team that has been reported to have checked in on him that can offer more than the minimum, and I don't see him accepting a minimum deal given his situation.

So yeah, unless something changes I think its the Pistons or nobody. And it's anybody's guess which of those it is.

[mcfly1204]

First team to offer corporate housing probably wins.

[basketballwacko2]

Don't you all still have his early Bird rights and can give him a rounds $7 mil? Barring the Nets using their cap room to give him a bigger deal as a trade chip, don't see why he wouldn't go back

I'd think the Nets could give him a bigger contract a 1+1 like the Pacers did with Bruce Brown a couple years ago. They used him as trade chip in the Siakam trade. Brooklyn has the pieces and the picks to work a deal for a high priced player on a longer contract and throw in picks to balance the value.

Who might they target if they did want to go this way?

[basketballwacko2]

Cheap 1-year deal in Milwaukee then re-hit free agency in 2026.

Detroit is limited in what they can offer, and Brooklyn has cap space but seems unlikely.

I think Milwaukee gives him a high-profile spot to showcase himself and build value.

Beasley just did have a high-profile spot to showcase himself and build value...only to once again find himself in the news and investigations for the wrong reasons.

I think he is likely taking the most money he can get given his financial situation.

I just read that he's been cleared in the gambling case but can you believe he was evicted from his apartment for not paying his rent!!

[basketballwacko2]

Sports betting is cancer and should be banned worldwide.

If you did that what else would we bet on? Politics?

[Canadafan]

[A_dub06]

Cbf to post the Instagram link since the post has most likely already been seen but Cade & Duren were just spotted in Rome together on holiday……. Also where Beasley has been on holiday the last couple of weeks. Apparently they were all in Ibiza together as well which Bealsey posted a video of but quickly took it down.

Guys coming back to Detroit for sure!