GM a Team Part 3 (Transactions) unsticky plz

roseorbust · Post #541 » by **roseorbust** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:30 pm

The Philadelphia Sixers and the New York Knicks have come to a agreement on a monumental deal. The sixers have sent Samuel Dalembert and Ira Newble up the Turnpike in exchange for Ben Wallace, Wilson Chandler and the knicks 2008 first round draft pick. The Sixers will greatly miss Samuel Dalembert, but by recieving the pick they hope to find a decent player in the draft. The knicks are happy to get rid of ben wallace contract, and recieve a great center in Samuel Dalembert.

16 591 640 / 13 693 335 = 1.21165808
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#1knickfan · Post #542 » by **#1knickfan** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:33 pm

roseorbust wrote:The Philadelphia Sixers and the New York Knicks have come to a agreement on a monumental deal. The sixers have sent Samuel Dalembert and Ira Newble up the Turnpike in exchange for Ben Wallace, Wilson Chandler and the knicks 2008 first round draft pick. The Sixers will greatly miss Samuel Dalembert, but by recieving the pick they hope to find a decent player in the draft. The knicks are happy to get rid of ben wallace contract, and recieve a great center in Samuel Dalembert.

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The Knicks accept and waive Joel Anthony.

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #543 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:39 pm

What happened to that draft pick rule that got a previous Knicks-Sixers deal and mine with SAC vetoed?

#1knickfan · Post #544 » by **#1knickfan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:01 am

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:What happened to that draft pick rule that got a previous Knicks-Sixers deal and mine with SAC vetoed?

If memory serves me, what happened with both your deal and the original Dalemburt to NY deal got the commissioner and Clyde to thinking that the draft pick rules were too strict. They rejected your deal just to be fair to me and the 76ers GM but then posted that they wouldn't reject such deals in the future. Its probably very far back in this thread but its there if you look for it.

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #545 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:10 am

bryant08 wrote:But what you cannot do is trade draft picks more than once, with different protections.

(Main page, pg. 14)

zong · Post #546 » by **zong** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:23 am

The Portland Trail Blazers, Denver Nuggets, and Memphis Grizzlies Have Agreed on a Trade.

Courtesy of The Oregonian

Denver Trades:
Steven Hunter ($3,638,600)
Yakhouba Diawara ($687,456 minimum contract)
Anthony Carter ($770,610 minimum contract)

Total Outgoing: $5,096,666

Denver Receives:
Mike James ($5,826,893)
Steve Novak ($687,456, minimum contract)
Casey Jacobsen ($770,610, minimum contract)

Total Incoming: $5,826,893 (exluding Novak and Jacobsen)

Portland Trades:
Mike James ($5,826,893)
Marcus Vinicius ($687,456, minimum contract)

Total Outgoing: $6,514,349

Portland Receives:
Steven Hunter ($3,638,600)
Anthony Carter ($770,610 minimum contract)

Total Incoming: $4,409,210

Memphis Trades:
Steve Novak ($687,456, minimum contract)
Casey Jacobsen ($770,610, minimum contract)

Memphis Receives:
Marcus Vinicius
Yakhouba Diarawa

*Memphis receives less than incoming, and has cap space anyway

Portland accepts and welcomes Steven Hunter to the team.

bcortell · Post #547 » by **bcortell** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:28 am

denver accepts

Post #548 » by **bryant08** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:06 pm

bcortell wrote:denver accepts

you have yet to do the activity check in the main page, plz do that.

sterncohen · Post #549 » by **sterncohen** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:11 pm

Seattle and New Jersey have two trades.

Trade #1:
To NJ - J.R. Smith ($2,134,067)
To Seattle - Lindsay Hunter ($2,250,000)

Seattle waives Lindsay Hunter

Trade #2:
To NJ - NJ's own 2009 2nd round pick, which was previously traded to Seattle (real NBA), plus traded player exception equal to Lowry's salary below
To Seattle - Kyle Lowry ($1,087,690)
Seattle uses part of a trade exception remaining from a prior deal (verify at http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/r ... laries.htm)

#1knickfan · Post #550 » by **#1knickfan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:42 pm

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

(Main page, pg. 14)

I emailed Clyde and Bryant to help see if I am not crazy because I could have sworn there was a rule change after your deal got vetoed. I think they did so in order to make sure deals like yours with Sac-Town and my original deal with Philly weren't killed because of really silly technicalities that could possibly affect the deal in real life. If I am crazy and no such rule was created I will work with Philly to see if there is a way we can make a new deal.

roseorbust · Post #551 » by **roseorbust** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:15 pm

sighh.. everyone calm down. Listen to me.

The original deal between me and the Knicks was vetoed not because you can't trade divy up a pick with protection. For example, lets say I trade my pick to the warriors, but they only get it if it's 16 to 20, and i trade it to the Bobcats, who only get it if it's 20 to 25. That's not legal. You can only have a pick owed to one person at a time.so even though the knicks had little chance to finish in the top 8, we had to honor th epotential that the jazz got the pick. But now, it is mathmatically impossible for them to get the pick, the knicks can trade it again. come on people.. it's simple...

Post #552 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:51 pm

The Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors have agreed upon a trade.

Houston Outgoing

Mike Miller $8,376,194
Sean Marks $770,610
Rubean Patterson $770,610

9917414 X 1.25= 12,396,767

Warriors Outgoing

Matt Barnes $3,000,000
Stephen Jackson $6,630,000
Patrick O'Bryant $2,261,400

11,891,400

Deal 2

Diaw for TE and 2010 Warriors Second Rounder.

Houston accepts.

deviljets7 · Post #553 » by **deviljets7** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:11 pm

sterncohen wrote:Seattle and New Jersey have two trades.

Trade #1:
To NJ - J.R. Smith ($2,134,067)
To Seattle - Lindsay Hunter ($2,250,000)

Seattle waives Lindsay Hunter

Trade #2:
To NJ - NJ's own 2009 2nd round pick, which was previously traded to Seattle (real NBA), plus traded player exception equal to Lowry's salary below
To Seattle - Kyle Lowry ($1,087,690)
Seattle uses part of a trade exception remaining from a prior deal (verify at http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/r ... laries.htm)

NJ confirms the trade and is happy to bring JR back home.

#1knickfan · Post #554 » by **#1knickfan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:50 pm

TMACFORMVP wrote:The Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors have agreed upon a trade.

Houston Outgoing

Mike Miller $8,376,194
Sean Marks $770,610
Rubean Patterson $770,610

9917414 X 1.25= 12,396,767

Warriors Outgoing

Matt Barnes $3,000,000
Stephen Jackson $6,630,000
Patrick O'Bryant $2,261,400

11,891,400

Deal 2

Diaw for TE and 2010 Warriors Second Rounder.

Houston accepts.

Dude you suck. lol

Garmfay · Post #555 » by **Garmfay** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:09 pm

TMACFORMVP wrote:The Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors have agreed upon a trade.

Houston Outgoing

Mike Miller $8,376,194
Sean Marks $770,610
Rubean Patterson $770,610

9917414 X 1.25= 12,396,767

Warriors Outgoing

Matt Barnes $3,000,000
Stephen Jackson $6,630,000
Patrick O'Bryant $2,261,400

11,891,400

Deal 2

Diaw for TE and 2010 Warriors Second Rounder.

Houston accepts.

Warriors Accept. Get a shooter in Mike and a versatile player in Diaw. Hard to give up S Jax as he brings leadership and defense.

Warriors Waive C.J. Watson in order to make room for the trade. After the Trade the Warriors Waive Sean Marks.

PS Am I allowed to sign CJ Watson back after I waive Sean? If I'm allowed I would like to sign him back for the minimum. Thanks

#1knickfan · Post #556 » by **#1knickfan** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:58 pm

I got back the response from the commissioner and apparently I was remembering a rule change that was never made. So to make the deal work I have made a minor deal with Utah.

The Knicks trade:
$3 million of the bastards Jim Dolan's money

The Utah Jazz trade:
The protections they have on the Knicks pick for 2008 and 2009.

Basically I am giving Utah money to officially make the Knicks pick they own the unprotected 2010 first rounder it really is. They'll still have their pick and I will have the necessary flexibility to make the 76ers deal.

#1knickfan · Post #557 » by **#1knickfan** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:42 pm

^^^^^

That deal looks to be off.

Even though he is the one who intitiated the talks about clearing the protections and he never mentioned any dissatisfaction when I mentioned giving him money to remove the protections apparently the Jazz GM is insisting I give up a very valuable second round pick this year just to make my Dalembert trade work. I refuse to give up anything of real value because he isn't giving up anything of real value. So since we seem to be at an unfixable stalemate I am just going to leave the Dalembert trade up to the commissioner. If its rejected its rejected.

roseorbust · Post #558 » by **roseorbust** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:55 pm

If this trade is vetoed, I will seriously have to question this game. First off, it doesn't matter that the pick had protection on it. I'll give you a perfect example that will end the stupidity of this whole thing. Atlanta Hawks last year. They owed Pheonix a pick. If the pick wasn't in the top 3, it went to pheonix. Bingo it's top 3. Their were many rumours of the Hawks trading the pick, even though they stilled owned Pheonix a pick next year. It is mathmatically impossible for the jazz to get th epick, so their still allowed to trade it.

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #559 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:01 pm

roseorbust wrote:If this trade is vetoed, I will seriously have to question this game. First off, it doesn't matter that the pick had protection on it. I'll give you a perfect example that will end the stupidity of this whole thing. Atlanta Hawks last year. They owed Pheonix a pick. If the pick wasn't in the top 3, it went to pheonix. Bingo it's top 3. Their were many rumours of the Hawks trading the pick, even though they stilled owned Pheonix a pick next year. It is mathmatically impossible for the jazz to get th epick, so their still allowed to trade it.

Look, my trade was vetoed for the same reason, and you guys made a huge stink about it. So, why should we now change the rules?

Raptors90102 · Post #560 » by **Raptors90102** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:09 pm

roseorbust wrote:If this trade is vetoed, I will seriously have to question this game. First off, it doesn't matter that the pick had protection on it. I'll give you a perfect example that will end the stupidity of this whole thing. Atlanta Hawks last year. They owed Pheonix a pick. If the pick wasn't in the top 3, it went to pheonix. Bingo it's top 3. Their were many rumours of the Hawks trading the pick, even though they stilled owned Pheonix a pick next year. It is mathmatically impossible for the jazz to get th epick, so their still allowed to trade it.

Atlanta could have never traded their 2008 pick since they had traded their 2009 unconditional first pick to phoenix. Yeah, they could have drafted a player and then traded him to the other team. But there's no chance Atlanta could have traded their 2008 pick (even after the draftr order was determined) since it would be disallowed due to the consecutive pick trading rule.

GM a Team Part 3 (Transactions) unsticky plz

Should we get rid of the veto system?