Offers for Gasol?

[rugbyrugger23]

Humphries/Teletovic/Brooks for Gasol ...Nets could add future first as well.

That is not bad at all. My bet is Hump in LA would return to form of last year and Brooks could play SG for the departed Kobe (via amnesty). Lakers then could have some cap room to wiggle.

[inquisitive]

how do trade exceptions work with this new cba now? what is the max and requirements?

another question is what if a player wants a buyout/mutual buyout...how much of that salary still counts against the cap? what %?

[shagadelic45]

not sure exactly but with a handful of teams with enough space to just absorb gasol and the new minimum salarycap, gasol for nothing or a cheaper expiring (marvin williams, speights) works

[rugbyrugger23]

Dallas. Someone said they can't afford him, but looks like to me they have room.

Dallas sends their '13 pick and VC for Gasol. Dallas renounces Mayo and all FA holds. Think that works, but some Dallas capologist can figure it out.

Lakers amnesty Kobe, buyout Duhon NG contract, and have cap room for one FA. And if MWP takes ETO, they should have max cap space to sign someone next to Howard.

Both teams would really have to work their exceptions to fill rosters.

Lakers Lineup:
C-Howard (resign max)/Hill
PF-FA/Hill
SF-MWP/Ebanks
SG-VC/Morris
PG-Nash/Blake
Clark take MLE?

Mavs Lineup:
C-Gasol/James
PF-Dirk/?
SF-Marion/?
SG-MLE?/Cunningham
PG-Collison/Beau

[kobe_vs_jordan]

how do trade exceptions work with this new cba now? what is the max and requirements?

another question is what if a player wants a buyout/mutual buyout...how much of that salary still counts against the cap? what %?

No max, you get a trade exception when you send out more salary than you take in.

And I believe it is no different from waiving a player.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Dallas. Someone said they can't afford him, but looks like to me they have room.

Dallas sends their '13 pick and VC for Gasol. Dallas renounces Mayo and all FA holds. Think that works, but some Dallas capologist can figure it out.

Lakers amnesty Kobe, buyout Duhon NG contract, and have cap room for one FA. And if MWP takes ETO, they should have max cap space to sign someone next to Howard.

Both teams would really have to work their exceptions to fill rosters.

Lakers Lineup:
C-Howard (resign max)/Hill
PF-FA/Hill
SF-MWP/Ebanks
SG-VC/Morris
PG-Nash/Blake
Clark take MLE?

Mavs Lineup:
C-Gasol/James
PF-Dirk/?
SF-Marion/?
SG-MLE?/Cunningham
PG-Collison/Beau

Dwight isn't signing up with that lineup.

[Gideon]

What about Denver? They have a 57-25 team that isn't too far away from really being a contender, but is struggling in the playoffs and lacks a real go-to-guy. Even if you consider Lawson to have emerged as a 1st option, they still really need one more high-level offensive player that they can rely on.

McGee, Chandler, and Fournier for Gasol works. (Denver actually has enough pieces that there are a few ways for them to arrange a Gasol trade based on whom both teams especially value and whom both teams are willing to part with.)

Denver:
PG: Lawson
SG: Iggy
SF: Gallo (when healthy)
PF: Faried
C: Gasol

Key backups: Miller, Brewer, Koufos

That's still a deep team without any real gaps, but now if Gasol can regain his previous form they might finally have the firepower to contend. With Gasol in the high post and players like Lawson, Iggy, and Miller on the perimeter, this would be a great passing team and overall offensive team IMO.

Meanwhile, the Lakers upgrade at SF with Chandler, pick up a good young prospect who fits D'Antoni's fast-paced system in Fournier, and get a solid back-up/insurance if Dwight doesn't re-sign or gets hurt in McGee. If Dwight does re-sign, and the Lakers don't want to pay McGee 10mil/yr to be a backup, I'm sure other teams would be interested in McGee and they could flip him for an asset at another position or cap space.

[rugbyrugger23]

Dallas. Someone said they can't afford him, but looks like to me they have room.

Dallas sends their '13 pick and VC for Gasol. Dallas renounces Mayo and all FA holds. Think that works, but some Dallas capologist can figure it out.

Lakers amnesty Kobe, buyout Duhon NG contract, and have cap room for one FA. And if MWP takes ETO, they should have max cap space to sign someone next to Howard.

Both teams would really have to work their exceptions to fill rosters.

Lakers Lineup:
C-Howard (resign max)/Hill
PF-FA/Hill
SF-MWP/Ebanks
SG-VC/Morris
PG-Nash/Blake
Clark take MLE?

Mavs Lineup:
C-Gasol/James
PF-Dirk/?
SF-Marion/?
SG-MLE?/Cunningham
PG-Collison/Beau

Dwight isn't signing up with that lineup.

So be it. Lakers then can sign 2 big time FA's who want to be a Laker. They would only have about 30mil on books including MWP and holds. That would be close to offering 2 max 2nd contract guys or 1 3rd contract and considerable offer on another player.

And actually the Dallas theory works without amnesty of Kobe (or requiring VC in trade). Lakers would have no capspace but gain exceptions to fill PF spot and roster. All while keeping '14 max capspace.
C-Howard/Hill
PF-MLE or TE/Clark?
SF-MWP/Ebanks
SG-Kobe/Morris
PG-Nash/Blake

And for Dallas, Gasol is a nice gesture to Dirk, considerable effort towards winning in his last year. While keeping max '14 capspace available.

[Leto]

Dallas. Someone said they can't afford him, but looks like to me they have room.

Dallas sends their '13 pick and VC for Gasol. Dallas renounces Mayo and all FA holds. Think that works, but some Dallas capologist can figure it out.

Lakers amnesty Kobe, buyout Duhon NG contract, and have cap room for one FA. And if MWP takes ETO, they should have max cap space to sign someone next to Howard.

Both teams would really have to work their exceptions to fill rosters.

Lakers Lineup:
C-Howard (resign max)/Hill
PF-FA/Hill
SF-MWP/Ebanks
SG-VC/Morris
PG-Nash/Blake
Clark take MLE?

Mavs Lineup:
C-Gasol/James
PF-Dirk/?
SF-Marion/?
SG-MLE?/Cunningham
PG-Collison/Beau

Dwight isn't signing up with that lineup.

And I don't think Dallas would do that, either.

[Leto]

Lakers amnesty Metta.

Lakers out: Gasol
Lakers in: Boozer + Ariza

Bulls out: Booz, Rip and 2013 1st (20)
Bulls in: Gasol

Wiz out: Ariza
Wiz in: Rip (cut) buy out 1 mil + 2013 CHI 1st

That's about the best I can do for a CHI offer. I know Lakers want Deng, but thats not happening. Putting aside basketball reasons, there's no way the Bulls are going to pay close to 60 mil for their PF/C rotation and leave a hole at one of their wing spots. Boozer has to be the one going out in any Gasol deal.

[Saul Goodman]

Toronto still does Andrea/Fields for Pau.

[JB2]

Lakers amnesty Metta.

Lakers out: Gasol
Lakers in: Boozer + Ariza

Bulls out: Booz, Rip and 2013 1st (20)
Bulls in: Gasol

Wiz out: Ariza
Wiz in: Rip (cut) buy out 1 mil + 2013 CHI 1st

That's about the best I can do for a CHI offer. I know Lakers want Deng, but thats not happening. Putting aside basketball reasons, there's no way the Bulls are going to pay close to 60 mil for their PF/C rotation and leave a hole at one of their wing spots. Boozer has to be the one going out in any Gasol deal.

lakers would do that deal... Boozer is showing he can play well. Booz and D12 are close and I think Booz plays the complete opposite of Pau, which while it may not be the best fit next to Dwight, it'll certainly bring a boost of intensity. when does his contract end?

Ariza would be a nice change from MWP.

Chicago might feel like they are giving up a bit too much, but I think it's a good deal. Pau is a very nice fit next to Noah/Gibson and he can really great be a low post anchor for that team and we know Rose wanted him in the past.

[Karmaloop]

Toronto still does Andrea/Fields for Pau.

And Mitch Kupchak promptly hangs up the phone, and never responds to another phone call that Bryan Colangelo makes. The Lakers wouldn't do Pau Gasol for Andrea Bargnani straight up if the salaries work, why would they be willing to take on Landry Fields' bloated contract?

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

LAL out: GASOL
LAL in: 9th pick 2013

POR OUT: Matthews, 2nd
POR in: Gasol

Min out: #9
Min in: Matthews, 2nd

[SCourGe OF GoD]

LAL out: GASOL
LAL in: 9th pick 2013

POR OUT: Matthews, 2nd
POR in: Gasol

Min out: #9
Min in: Matthews, 2nd

Portland do need a center but Gasol doesnt fit the bill...theyd probly rather have the cap and Mathews.

[SCourGe OF GoD]

What about Denver? They have a 57-25 team that isn't too far away from really being a contender, but is struggling in the playoffs and lacks a real go-to-guy. Even if you consider Lawson to have emerged as a 1st option, they still really need one more high-level offensive player that they can rely on.

McGee, Chandler, and Fournier for Gasol works. (Denver actually has enough pieces that there are a few ways for them to arrange a Gasol trade based on whom both teams especially value and whom both teams are willing to part with.)

Denver:
PG: Lawson
SG: Iggy
SF: Gallo (when healthy)
PF: Faried
C: Gasol

Key backups: Miller, Brewer, Koufos

That's still a deep team without any real gaps, but now if Gasol can regain his previous form they might finally have the firepower to contend. With Gasol in the high post and players like Lawson, Iggy, and Miller on the perimeter, this would be a great passing team and overall offensive team IMO.

Meanwhile, the Lakers upgrade at SF with Chandler, pick up a good young prospect who fits D'Antoni's fast-paced system in Fournier, and get a solid back-up/insurance if Dwight doesn't re-sign or gets hurt in McGee. If Dwight does re-sign, and the Lakers don't want to pay McGee 10mil/yr to be a backup, I'm sure other teams would be interested in McGee and they could flip him for an asset at another position or cap space.

Would try to get Gallo instead of Wilson/Fournier if were taking on McGee

[HartfordWhalers]

What about Denver? They have a 57-25 team that isn't too far away from really being a contender, but is struggling in the playoffs and lacks a real go-to-guy. Even if you consider Lawson to have emerged as a 1st option, they still really need one more high-level offensive player that they can rely on.

McGee, Chandler, and Fournier for Gasol works. (Denver actually has enough pieces that there are a few ways for them to arrange a Gasol trade based on whom both teams especially value and whom both teams are willing to part with.)

Denver:
PG: Lawson
SG: Iggy
SF: Gallo (when healthy)
PF: Faried
C: Gasol

Key backups: Miller, Brewer, Koufos

That's still a deep team without any real gaps, but now if Gasol can regain his previous form they might finally have the firepower to contend. With Gasol in the high post and players like Lawson, Iggy, and Miller on the perimeter, this would be a great passing team and overall offensive team IMO.

Meanwhile, the Lakers upgrade at SF with Chandler, pick up a good young prospect who fits D'Antoni's fast-paced system in Fournier, and get a solid back-up/insurance if Dwight doesn't re-sign or gets hurt in McGee. If Dwight does re-sign, and the Lakers don't want to pay McGee 10mil/yr to be a backup, I'm sure other teams would be interested in McGee and they could flip him for an asset at another position or cap space.

Would try to get Gallo instead of Wilson/Fournier if were taking on McGee

I don't see Denver doing that with Gallo. Without it would need to be a three teamer moving McGee to somewhere as without Dwight I think the Lakers don't do it.

[HartfordWhalers]

For the sake of argument:

Chicago in: McGee
Chicago out: Boozer
Could fit with Noah and Taj in 3 man rotation, saves some money per year, and goes bigger to beat Miami.

Denver in: Gasol
Denver out: McGee and Chandler
Adds an element to the offense for parts that are expendable. I'm personally of the opinion that McGee's long term salary doesn't fit with an Iguodala extension, so the short term nature of Gasol is somewhat mitigated.

Lakers in: Boozer and Chandler
Lakers out: Gasol
Boozer might fit better with Dwight, and Chandler would be a key addition.

What gets added to who to make them do it?

[SCourGe OF GoD]

For the sake of argument:

Chicago in: McGee
Chicago out: Boozer
Could fit with Noah and Taj in 3 man rotation, saves some money per year, and goes bigger to beat Miami.

Denver in: Gasol
Denver out: McGee and Chandler
Adds an element to the offense for parts that are expendable. I'm personally of the opinion that McGee's long term salary doesn't fit with an Iguodala extension, so the short term nature of Gasol is somewhat mitigated.

Lakers in: Boozer and Chandler
Lakers out: Gasol
Boozer might fit better with Dwight, and Chandler would be a key addition.

What gets added to who to make them do it?

Boozer ruins our 2014 cap space ..no interest in taking him on even tho he has had a great season.

[tviper]

For the endless proposals of Pau for Boozer, please explain why the Lakers would trade one low post player for another when that low post player: a) is a two time champion on the Lakers, b) is beloved by the fans, c) has full support of the team's historic superstar, d) is taller and more skilled, e) has a shorter contract, etc.

If the reason is that Boozer makes less money next season, that is not good enough by itself to overcome the above, even with the higher tax implications as the Lakers are one of the, if not the, highest revenue generating team in the NBA.