Noel to <your team>

[bigmean]

lately my other davorite has been

Chicago gets
Hollis Thompson
Richaun Holmes
Nerlens Noel

Philly gets
Denzel Valentine
Nikola Mirotic

[Asif16]

Terrence Ross, Bebe, Wright, LAC or TOR first rd pick (whichever is better) and TOR 2nd rd pick

For

Noel, Covington

While I'm not a huge fan of Ross or moving RoCo, this seems to be the best value so far.

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

[shrink]

If you don't believe he wil have much impact this year, then why would you pay to have him on your team this year?

If you don't need the potential production, let someone else carry the downside risk of injury or character this year. Surely a "closer look" is not worth a pick, unless you have no faith in your scouting department. If Noel suddenly becomes so amazing that you want to have him, overpay with cap space. Even if someone outbids your price point, you lost out on player that was more than you would pay, and kept your pick.

It's not just about fit. It's about handling your risk, and it's about how an expiring RFA contract works.

Because I'd (if I was the Wolves) would be willing to risk the chance of being able to re-sign him in the off-season. I don't think the Wolves are going to be a prime FA location so I'd want to give myself the opportunity to outbid the competition if it came to that.

You have a "chance to sign him" whether he was on your team or not. He is a free agent.

Owning his RFA rights only give you the opportunity to match the highest of 20 teams offers. If that number happens to still be a good deal, you could offer him that money whether he was on your team or not.

You're from TOR. Do you thnk Biyombo showed so little in the playoffs, that your team wouldn't have liked to keep him? However, ORL's offer was way too expensive for your team, and they smartly concluded to not exercise their RFA right to match. Do you think none of the 20 teams with cap space would offer Noel a big contract if he happens to perform well?

[eagereyez]

While I'm not a huge fan of Ross or moving RoCo, this seems to be the best value so far.

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

What would it take to get Powell instead of Wright? There's little interest in Wright due to the abundance of high quality PG prospects in this year's draft (Fultz, Ball, Monk, DSJ). There's about a 90% chance we come out of the draft with one of those 4 players, so trading for a PG that projects as a backup doesn't generate a lot of interest.

Would Noel & Covington for Powell & LAC 1st be something you'd consider?

[TKainZero]

Can we have someone compile all these offers into one big post at the start?

Maybe help out the philly gm?

[Texas Chuck]

You have a "chance to sign him" whether he eas on your team or not. He is a free agent.

Owning his RFA rights only give you the opportunity to match the highest of 20 teams offers. If that number happens to still be a good deal, you could offer him that money whether he was on your team or not.

You're from TOR. Do you thnk Biyombo showed so little in the playoffs, that your Team wouldn't have liked to keep him? However, ORL's offer was way too expensive for your team, and they smartly concluded to not exercise their RFA right to match. Do you think none of the 20 teams with cap space would offer Noel a big contract if he happens to perform well?

FYI -- the Raps didn't have his restricted rights. Charlotte actually lifted his QO the year before making him a UFA and he settled for a tiny offer from the Raps. So the Raps needed cap space to sign Biyombo.

Whether or not they would have been willing to pay what Orlando did obviously IDK, but they didn't actually have the option.

[WhatsaTDot]

You have a "chance to sign him" whether he eas on your team or not. He is a free agent.

Owning his RFA rights only give you the opportunity to match the highest of 20 teams offers. If that number happens to still be a good deal, you could offer him that money whether he was on your team or not.

You're from TOR. Do you thnk Biyombo showed so little in the playoffs, that your Team wouldn't have liked to keep him? However, ORL's offer was way too expensive for your team, and they smartly concluded to not exercise their RFA right to match. Do you think none of the 20 teams with cap space would offer Noel a big contract if he happens to perform well?

Toronto didn't have his bird rights. We didn't have the option to match.

Free agents aren't exactly lining up to play in Minnesota. Improving your chances to re-sign him including getting to know your core, playing with them, travelling with them, hanging out with them.

[shrink]

Thanks guys, I didn't know that. Feel free to include a different example where a team put an overpriced deal on a free agent. Might need to go baxk to last year.

Btw, do you think it's a good idea for MIN to use Bird Rights to force Noel to stay on a team where he doesn't want to be?

[WhatsaTDot]

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

What would it take to get Powell instead of Wright? There's little interest in Wright due to the abundance of high quality PG prospects in this year's draft (Fultz, Ball, Monk, DSJ). There's about a 90% chance we come out of the draft with one of those 4 players, so trading for a PG that projects as a backup doesn't generate a lot of interest.

Would Noel & Covington for Powell & LAC 1st be something you'd consider?

Certainly something Masai and Casey would consider. I don't have a particular preference for Ross or Powell as players they just happen to both fill the same role in the team. I think ore spare parts would need to be added to make salaries work though.

[Asif16]

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

What would it take to get Powell instead of Wright? There's little interest in Wright due to the abundance of high quality PG prospects in this year's draft (Fultz, Ball, Monk, DSJ). There's about a 90% chance we come out of the draft with one of those 4 players, so trading for a PG that projects as a backup doesn't generate a lot of interest.

Would Noel & Covington for Powell & LAC 1st be something you'd consider?

Oh boy thats a tough one. Powell is beloved by raptors fans, including myself. Raptor fans see Powell as a future All-star (No joke)...including myself.

One of the reasons people want to get rid of Ross, is so it free's up time for Powell. Value wise it doesnt look so bad. So..i dont know lol

[Diop]

Lamb and a 1st for Noel,

[WhatsaTDot]

Thanks guys, I didn't know that.

Btw, do you think it's a good idea for MIN to use Bird Rights to force Noel to stay on a team where he doesn't want to be?

I suppose it depends on the level of production he might show. If you're having to use his bird rights to retain a max level production value player, I'm signing him to see if things cant be worked out.

[Asif16]

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

What would it take to get Powell instead of Wright? There's little interest in Wright due to the abundance of high quality PG prospects in this year's draft (Fultz, Ball, Monk, DSJ). There's about a 90% chance we come out of the draft with one of those 4 players, so trading for a PG that projects as a backup doesn't generate a lot of interest.

Would Noel & Covington for Powell & LAC 1st be something you'd consider?

Honestly, Covington really isnt a piece of need, considering we alreayd do have powell. Noel is the piece i want. Any way i can revise my offer and just take convington out?

Ross + Bebe

for

Noel

Would that interest you?

[youngcrev]

While I'm not a huge fan of Ross or moving RoCo, this seems to be the best value so far.

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

So you're saying take those 2 out and we keep Covington then?

Bebe would be buried here and Wright's an unproven guy who's skillset doesnt really match what the Sixers would be looking for.

I didnt mean to imply these guys are worthless in general, I just dont see them having value to the Sixers.

[Asif16]

I'd be interested to see what that deal looks like without Covington involved. I prefer him to every individual piece coming back. Ross is really the only piece I actually value coming back here.

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

So you're saying take those 2 out and we keep Covington then?

Bebe would be buried here and Wright's an unproven guy who's skillset doesnt really match what the Sixers would be looking for.

I didnt mean to imply these guys are worthless in general, I just dont see them having value to the Sixers.

Fair enough. Last i heard, was that Philly was looking for a PG. Hence I included Wright.

Ross + Bebe

for

Noel + Stauskas

I feel like there is a pick involved somewhere, but I dont know from which team. But that would be my base of the deal. Would you do that?

[NashtyNas]

I'd change the Suns offer to Philly's choice of Knight or Len + 2nd.
Len IMO is more valuable in trade, but Knight is more useful to PHI.
I think they would take Knight and be done with it, but they'd have some choice.

Sounds like the tunes of a lot of Philly fans have changed dramatically through the first few months of this season.
Noel has gone from being worth a guaranteed lotto first or more, to people liking trades like Rozier + protected 1st 3 years from now.

I like it, because that means people are actually understanding and accounting for the reality.
I hate seeing threads where people are STILL proposing Phi should be getting things like 2 first round picks for Noel. I think that's so far from reality it just kills discussion because anyone that's not a Philly fan just laughs at it.

[deneem4]

Wiz 2017 unprotected 1st and Thomas Satoransky or trey burkee

[becausephilchow]

The Raps 100% want Covington coming back the other way if we send out Ross. Covington would be great off the bench for us.

[Foshan]

LAL: Clarkson for Noel
MIN: Muhammaed/Tyus Jones/2nd
MIL: Henson + Lotto 1st
BOS: Jackson, 2019 Memphis 1st or Rozier, 2017 Wolves 2nd
NOLA: Jrue Holiday and Ajinca.
POR: Ezli + Lotto 1st
PHX: Brandon Knight
HOU: KJ McDaniels/Montrezl Harrell/Hou 2017 1st top 10 protected/2017 Den 2nd/2017 Portland 2nd
CHA: Lamb + Lotto 1st
TOR: Ross + bebe
WAS: Wiz 2017 unprotected 1st and Thomas Satoransky or trey burkee

Updated to include all deals that have been mentioned that are just for Noel and non-multi-team deals (IMO just gets too hard to make multi team deals work in this kinda of thread)

[eagereyez]

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

What would it take to get Powell instead of Wright? There's little interest in Wright due to the abundance of high quality PG prospects in this year's draft (Fultz, Ball, Monk, DSJ). There's about a 90% chance we come out of the draft with one of those 4 players, so trading for a PG that projects as a backup doesn't generate a lot of interest.

Would Noel & Covington for Powell & LAC 1st be something you'd consider?

Honestly, Covington really isnt a piece of need, considering we alreayd do have powell. Noel is the piece i want. Any way i can revise my offer and just take convington out?

Ross + Bebe

for

Noel

Would that interest you?

Bebe will be buried behind Okafor and Holmes on Philly's depth chart. Noel is being traded to relieve the log-jam, not replace it. So it's basically Ross for Noel, in which case I'd rather have the POR pick. Replace Bebe with a pick or two and it becomes a more attractive offer.