Woj: Dipo to Miami

[Spin Move]

I mean houston couldn't get a first for him? This seams like aweful value for them. The pick swap with a far bettera team has no value, I would have at least demanded like 3 pick swaps with one in like 2025.

[CptCrunch]

If they keep and near max Dipo this off season like the rumored FA signing, I really don't like the Bam/Jimmy/Dipo core of Miami. Might get lucky and make the Eastern finals due a weak conference and good system/coaching.

If they decide to not keep Dipo. Then sure Miami traded nothing for nothing.


I don't see a win/win. Houston got nothing for Dipo/Harden. Miami got themselves into a crappy situation.

[bondom34]

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[ThatBoyNick]

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Eh you have swap Harden with LeVert.

[bondom34]

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Eh you have swap Harden with LeVert.

He replaced Harden in Houston. Ultimately other stuff too, but just weird to think about.

[gambitx777]

Terrible for huston.
They could have had levert and allen and flipped those two at the dead line for much better stuff.

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[K_chile22]

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Eh you have swap Harden with LeVert.

Yeah "lots of other stuff" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here lol

[K_chile22]

To give an example of what this is or could be for Houstons end

If we look at the Nets current draft position at #26, and what would be the Heats current draft position at #17, if the Nets/Heat have similar draft positions in 2022, this could theoretically be the value equivalent of Houston trading up 9 spots, which would be equivalent to a very late 1st or very early 2nd. So I don't see this as terrible.

The protections will matter.

It's terrible because that's pretty much your best case scenario, fair chance it will be less significant than that

[Dadouv47]

Feel like Oladipo's agent said he was walking 100% because I would rather take a shot at a 5-10% chance of a Oladipo S&T with a very small value in return than making this terrible trade.

I think Stone is doing a very good job as a GM but trading Levert & Allen for Oladipo and a FRP was terrible.

[ThatBoyNick]

Feel like Oladipo's agent said he was walking 100% because I would rather take a shot at a 5-10% chance of a Oladipo S&T with a very small value in return than making this terrible trade.

I think Stone is doing a very good job as a GM but trading Levert & Allen for Oladipo and a FRP was terrible.

Kinda have to wait to see how LeVert does over a long-term period, and Allens FA, Miami's pick swap, the Bucks 2023 1st before calling it all terrible. These deals the Rockets are making are all long-term situations due to the picks.

[HartfordWhalers]

Feel like Oladipo's agent said he was walking 100% because I would rather take a shot at a 5-10% chance of a Oladipo S&T with a very small value in return than making this terrible trade.

I think Stone is doing a very good job as a GM but trading Levert & Allen for Oladipo and a FRP was terrible.

Let me be the pro-Houston voice.

They traded LeVert (possibly bad contract, absolutely inefficient chucker, and not tha young) and Allen (pending rfa who supposedly Toronto wants to put an offer on, and Cleveland, and maybe Charlotte or ...), who did I mention plays Center where Wood is probably best, and a sizeable bad contract in Prince for A. a future 1st. B. a future first pick swap.

Does anyone think this Houston team is one MLE signing from the 8th seed? They are in for a long haul, and they are going for the long haul assets perfectly imo.

[ProcessDoctor]

Feel like Oladipo's agent said he was walking 100% because I would rather take a shot at a 5-10% chance of a Oladipo S&T with a very small value in return than making this terrible trade.

I think Stone is doing a very good job as a GM but trading Levert & Allen for Oladipo and a FRP was terrible.

Let me be the pro-Houston voice.

They traded LeVert (possibly bad contract, absolutely inefficient chucker, and not tha young) and Allen (pending rfa who supposedly Toronto wants to put an offer on, and Cleveland, and maybe Charlotte or ...), who did I mention plays Center where Wood is probably best, and a sizeable bad contract in Prince for A. a future 1st. B. a future first pick swap.

Does anyone think this Houston team is one MLE signing from the 8th seed? They are in for a long haul, and they are going for the long haul assets perfectly imo.

I think this argument would be valid if it weren't for the fact that Simmons was the alternative to pile of trash they got.

[HartfordWhalers]

Feel like Oladipo's agent said he was walking 100% because I would rather take a shot at a 5-10% chance of a Oladipo S&T with a very small value in return than making this terrible trade.

I think Stone is doing a very good job as a GM but trading Levert & Allen for Oladipo and a FRP was terrible.

Let me be the pro-Houston voice.

They traded LeVert (possibly bad contract, absolutely inefficient chucker, and not tha young) and Allen (pending rfa who supposedly Toronto wants to put an offer on, and Cleveland, and maybe Charlotte or ...), who did I mention plays Center where Wood is probably best, and a sizeable bad contract in Prince for A. a future 1st. B. a future first pick swap.

Does anyone think this Houston team is one MLE signing from the 8th seed? They are in for a long haul, and they are going for the long haul assets perfectly imo.

I think this argument would be valid if it weren't for the fact that Simmons was the alternative to pile of trash they got.

Which would have cost them a 50% chance at keeping their pick (in the top 4).

Go for Simmons and be a 8th seed. Or go for the 15th seed. They took a bold direction and are playing it out well.

Except for not trading House imo. We all needed playoff bubble House again.

[ProcessDoctor]

Let me be the pro-Houston voice.

They traded LeVert (possibly bad contract, absolutely inefficient chucker, and not tha young) and Allen (pending rfa who supposedly Toronto wants to put an offer on, and Cleveland, and maybe Charlotte or ...), who did I mention plays Center where Wood is probably best, and a sizeable bad contract in Prince for A. a future 1st. B. a future first pick swap.

Does anyone think this Houston team is one MLE signing from the 8th seed? They are in for a long haul, and they are going for the long haul assets perfectly imo.

I think this argument would be valid if it weren't for the fact that Simmons was the alternative to pile of trash they got.

Which would have cost them a 50% chance at keeping their pick (in the top 4).

Go for Simmons and be a 8th seed. Or go for the 15th seed. They took a bold direction and are playing it out well.

Except for not trading House imo. We all needed playoff bubble House again.

Sure, but then you're banking on getting a player better than Simmons in the draft, but I think that's unlikely.

[Dadouv47]

Let me be the pro-Houston voice.

They traded LeVert (possibly bad contract, absolutely inefficient chucker, and not tha young) and Allen (pending rfa who supposedly Toronto wants to put an offer on, and Cleveland, and maybe Charlotte or ...), who did I mention plays Center where Wood is probably best, and a sizeable bad contract in Prince for A. a future 1st. B. a future first pick swap.

Does anyone think this Houston team is one MLE signing from the 8th seed? They are in for a long haul, and they are going for the long haul assets perfectly imo.

I think this argument would be valid if it weren't for the fact that Simmons was the alternative to pile of trash they got.

Which would have cost them a 50% chance at keeping their pick (in the top 4).

Go for Simmons and be a 8th seed. Or go for the 15th seed. They took a bold direction and are playing it out well.

Except for not trading House imo. We all needed playoff bubble House again.

I'm not sure I like the idea of going all in to try to keep your pick while you have a very decent roster and a lot of future picks. Fair enough if Wood is better at the 5 but I think a Wood/Allen line up is pretty solid as well.

Allen/Wood/Levert/Wall/Tucker & some decent role players + 6 FRPs and 3 swaps to help moving some of those players to improve your roster was not bad at all.

Maybe I'm not a gambler but feel like their are taking too much risk to keep their pick...it's still a 52/48 gamble that could change their future and while they are in a great position if they keep their pick, I have no idea what they could do if they lose it (2 more years of tanking stucked with bad contracts like Wall & Gordon). I already hate to gamble on that pick swap as a Thunder fan but the outcome of that lottery is even more important for the Rockets...

[bondom34]

Yeah really struggling to see any positive Houston spin, and I'm fairly low on LeVert. I'd say right now you could get more for LeVert or Allen alone than they just got for Oladipo. And the best case right now is a 50% shot at just getting a pick that some day might be as good as the guy you could have traded Harden for in the first place.

[Couch Potato]

I thought I read somewhere though Oladipo top free agent spot was Miami. So no brainer. I doubted many others teams were gonna rent him and the price of swapping salaries let alone picks.

[CBA]

Let me be the pro-Houston voice.

They traded LeVert (possibly bad contract, absolutely inefficient chucker, and not tha young) and Allen (pending rfa who supposedly Toronto wants to put an offer on, and Cleveland, and maybe Charlotte or ...), who did I mention plays Center where Wood is probably best, and a sizeable bad contract in Prince for A. a future 1st. B. a future first pick swap.

Does anyone think this Houston team is one MLE signing from the 8th seed? They are in for a long haul, and they are going for the long haul assets perfectly imo.

I think this argument would be valid if it weren't for the fact that Simmons was the alternative to pile of trash they got.

Which would have cost them a 50% chance at keeping their pick (in the top 4).

Go for Simmons and be a 8th seed. Or go for the 15th seed. They took a bold direction and are playing it out well.

Except for not trading House imo. We all needed playoff bubble House again.

I’m high on Simmons but I don’t think he’s good enough to push the second/third worst team in the league to an 8th seed in the West...especially with zero shooting around him.

If they could have had Simmons, the Brooklyn trade was a catastrophe.

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[Hoops23]

How true the Rockets can swap the pick they got from the Nets?