Best Realistic Offer: Bradley Beal

[queridiculo]

I really think most of the offers I’m seeing for Beal on here are too much. The guy is most effective when he has the ball in his hands. We’ve seen Beal without the ball in his hands as much with Wall. Is he better now? Absolutely, not a single doubt about it. However, with team like Portland for example, he will not be as effective.

A Beal trade to me is the epitome of “he is more valuable to team X”. For example, I really think a team like the Nuggets would benefit probably the most out of him, because playing him next to Jokic would be deadly. Having said that, is it worth both Murray AND MPJ? I don’t think so, personally. I’d rather have Murray-Harris/Barton-Gordon-MPJ-Jokic than Beal-Barton-Harris-Gordon-Jokic myself.

Beal's effectiveness playing on the ball is a testament to how much work he has put in since he was drafted, that is almost certainly not what characterizes his game though and it's definitely not his strength.

He's got a deadly in-between game, is an underrated finisher inside and can play just as effectively off the ball as on.

Beal is one of the most polished and well rounded scorers in the league.

[pcbothwel]

While it would seem counter intuitive based on the trade of Vuc & Gordon, Orlando would be very interesting if they felt the need to make a move.
Harris, Cole/Hampton, and their top 5 pick would be interesting.

Fultz
Beal
Ross
Isaac
Carter
Bench: Hampton, Okeke, Bamba, Moody (#11)

Probably not though

[Scoot McGroot]

For me, the Wizards try working on an extension but if he rejects it then whichever headliner the Wizards prefer out of the following 3...

Tyler Herro
Minnesota 1st owned by the Warriors
Michael Porter Jr.

Then you build the value off of that to what makes up the difference.

Looking over pick situation and salary matching...

Herro, Achiuwa, Okpala and ‘28 Heat 1st for Beal (Miami waives/renounces all team options/cap holds besides Duncan Robinson)

Wiseman, Wiggins, ‘21 Warriors 1st and ‘21 (or ‘22) T’Wolves 1st for Beal and Bertans

MPJ, Barton, JaMychal Green and ‘21 Denver 1st for Beal

I think that Miami deal still comes up short a couple million from working legally, since Robinson has qualified for the higher starter criteria for his qualifying offer. And that would leave only Jimmy, Bam, and Robinson (cap hold/QO) as the only other things that they could work with. Looks like it’d require renouncing Robinson, as constructed. Miami would HAVE to use the Iggy/Dragic contracts to match salary, instead of using cap space.

[aguiar95]

If that's the scenario, I just can't see much interest and assets for Beal to go West (maybe GSW and NOP). Probably stays East with ATL, MIA and PHI with the best odds of landing him.

[Prokorov]

It's 2021 NBA Draft Day. Reports are leaked that Bradley Beal is being traded today. What does the final trade look like?

Use the current draft order (http://www.tankathon.com/)

Pick in the 4-9 range + future top 3 protected 1st + not-so-bad salary coming back.

[Ell Curry]

The long discussed Philly option - now based around Ben Simmons and Maxey for Beal and Bertans - seems like it would suit Morey, even if Wiz need to give a bit more value. Embiid-Harris-Thybulle-Beal and they could sign and trade Bertans and a 1st rounder for Lowry at the 5 and just go for it right away.

[Ell Curry]

Raps would presumably do their first rounder and another unprotected, Boucher and Siakam for Hachimura and Beal which would allow Wiz to get another lottery pick and also try to still make playoffs while doing so (cuz they're insane).

[NYG]

For me, the Wizards try working on an extension but if he rejects it then whichever headliner the Wizards prefer out of the following 3...

Tyler Herro
Minnesota 1st owned by the Warriors
Michael Porter Jr.

Then you build the value off of that to what makes up the difference.

Looking over pick situation and salary matching...

Herro, Achiuwa, Okpala and ‘28 Heat 1st for Beal (Miami waives/renounces all team options/cap holds besides Duncan Robinson)

Wiseman, Wiggins, ‘21 Warriors 1st and ‘21 (or ‘22) T’Wolves 1st for Beal and Bertans

MPJ, Barton, JaMychal Green and ‘21 Denver 1st for Beal

I think that Miami deal still comes up short a couple million from working legally, since Robinson has qualified for the higher starter criteria for his qualifying offer. And that would leave only Jimmy, Bam, and Robinson (cap hold/QO) as the only other things that they could work with. Looks like it’d require renouncing Robinson, as constructed. Miami would HAVE to use the Iggy/Dragic contracts to match salary, instead of using cap space.

You're right...

Goran Dragic, Andre Iguodala, Tyler Herro, Precious Achiuwa, KZ Okpala and 2028 Unprotected Heat First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, 2021 Warriors First Round Draft Pick and 2021 (or 2022) Timberwolves First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

Michael Porter Jr., Will Barton, JaMychal Green and 2021 Denver First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal

If the Wizards couldn't get him to extend and were worried about losing him for nothing next off-season and these were the best offers on the table, which would Washington take?

[TheZachAttack]

Is there a better realistic offer than Wiseman, ‘22 T’Wolves 1st and Warriors ‘21 1st? I just don’t see who both could and would?

I think Edwards, 2021 #1, Beasley, and Rubio expiring as a centerpiece beats it. Cunningham, Edwards, Beasley + 17m expiring is pretty ideal to start a rebuild.

If the wolves started:

D Lo
Beal
McDaniels
Bertrans
Towns

That’s a dangerous shooting starting 5

Why on Earth would Minnesota deal Cade Cunningham, though? Wouldn’t he be PERFECT to plop at the 3 or 4 with some combo of Towns, Edwards, Russell, and even Beasley?

They probably wouldn’t, though I would also argue that no he’s not. Cade plays like a 6’8, D Lo. He’s an elite shot maker and has really good vision, but he can’t get all of the way to the rim. Edwards would be the only Wolves player that could penetrate and collapse the defense.

[Guzman_9]

What about:

Sabonis, Levert, A. Holiday, and 2021 1st

for

Beal & Hachimura?

[NYG]

Looking over pick situation and salary matching...

Herro, Achiuwa, Okpala and ‘28 Heat 1st for Beal (Miami waives/renounces all team options/cap holds besides Duncan Robinson)

Wiseman, Wiggins, ‘21 Warriors 1st and ‘21 (or ‘22) T’Wolves 1st for Beal and Bertans

MPJ, Barton, JaMychal Green and ‘21 Denver 1st for Beal

I think that Miami deal still comes up short a couple million from working legally, since Robinson has qualified for the higher starter criteria for his qualifying offer. And that would leave only Jimmy, Bam, and Robinson (cap hold/QO) as the only other things that they could work with. Looks like it’d require renouncing Robinson, as constructed. Miami would HAVE to use the Iggy/Dragic contracts to match salary, instead of using cap space.

You're right...

Goran Dragic, Andre Iguodala, Tyler Herro, Precious Achiuwa, KZ Okpala and 2028 Unprotected Heat First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, 2021 Warriors First Round Draft Pick and 2021 (or 2022) Timberwolves First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

Michael Porter Jr., Will Barton, JaMychal Green and 2021 Denver First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal

If the Wizards couldn't get him to extend and were worried about losing him for nothing next off-season and these were the best offers on the table, which would Washington take?

I think the Wiseman injury hurts the Warriors offer big time even if the Minnesota pick lands as 4th Overall post-lottery.

I could see Washington just take the Nuggets offer as I have the headliners ranked as...

1. MPJ
2. 4th Overall
3. Tyler Herro

and I'm not passing on the best of three assets just so I don't miss out on Precious Achiuwa or have to take on Andrew Wiggins contract.

C-Nikola Jokic
PF-Aaron Gordon
SF-Free Agent? (Reggie Bullock?)
SG-Bradley Beal
PG-Jamal Murray

[NYG]

Based on the voting so far it appears Golden State has the best offer even with Wiseman’s injury

[Mike lorenzo]

I think that Miami deal still comes up short a couple million from working legally, since Robinson has qualified for the higher starter criteria for his qualifying offer. And that would leave only Jimmy, Bam, and Robinson (cap hold/QO) as the only other things that they could work with. Looks like it’d require renouncing Robinson, as constructed. Miami would HAVE to use the Iggy/Dragic contracts to match salary, instead of using cap space.

You're right...

Goran Dragic, Andre Iguodala, Tyler Herro, Precious Achiuwa, KZ Okpala and 2028 Unprotected Heat First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, 2021 Warriors First Round Draft Pick and 2021 (or 2022) Timberwolves First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

Michael Porter Jr., Will Barton, JaMychal Green and 2021 Denver First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal

If the Wizards couldn't get him to extend and were worried about losing him for nothing next off-season and these were the best offers on the table, which would Washington take?

I think the Wiseman injury hurts the Warriors offer big time even if the Minnesota pick lands as 4th Overall post-lottery.

I could see Washington just take the Nuggets offer as I have the headliners ranked as...

1. MPJ
2. 4th Overall
3. Tyler Herro

and I'm not passing on the best of three assets just so I don't miss out on Precious Achiuwa or have to take on Andrew Wiggins contract.

C-Nikola Jokic
PF-Aaron Gordon
SF-Free Agent? (Reggie Bullock?)
SG-Bradley Beal
PG-Jamal Murray

maybe I'm wrong (not a denver fan), but I think Nuggets don't ship Porter + ... for Beal with only 1 year of control

[NYG]

You're right...

Goran Dragic, Andre Iguodala, Tyler Herro, Precious Achiuwa, KZ Okpala and 2028 Unprotected Heat First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, 2021 Warriors First Round Draft Pick and 2021 (or 2022) Timberwolves First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans

or

Michael Porter Jr., Will Barton, JaMychal Green and 2021 Denver First Round Draft Pick for Bradley Beal

If the Wizards couldn't get him to extend and were worried about losing him for nothing next off-season and these were the best offers on the table, which would Washington take?

I think the Wiseman injury hurts the Warriors offer big time even if the Minnesota pick lands as 4th Overall post-lottery.

I could see Washington just take the Nuggets offer as I have the headliners ranked as...

1. MPJ
2. 4th Overall
3. Tyler Herro

and I'm not passing on the best of three assets just so I don't miss out on Precious Achiuwa or have to take on Andrew Wiggins contract.

C-Nikola Jokic
PF-Aaron Gordon
SF-Free Agent? (Reggie Bullock?)
SG-Bradley Beal
PG-Jamal Murray

maybe I'm wrong (not a denver fan), but I think Nuggets don't ship Porter + ... for Beal with only 1 year of control

That resulting Nuggets team is likely good enough to keep Beal.

[NYG]

Who would make Beal’s list for teams he would accept a trade to?

[Saul Goodman]

I see a few. Pelicans have the most lucrative offer in terms of draft capital.



To New Orleans
Bradley Beal


To Washington
#12
Kira Lewis JR
Eric Bledsoe
Jaxson Hayes
NIckeil Alexander Walker
2021 Cleveland 2nd
2023 New Orleans unprotected 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st
2025 New Orleans Unprotected 1st
2027 Bucks 1st


Pelicans go all in on a young core. They resign Ball and run Ball/Beal/Ingram/Zion as the core for the future. They still have more draft capital left to package for a better fitting big man like say a Myles Turner or Christian Wood as well.





Golden State is a close second if the pick ends up being 4 or 5 in this draft.



To WAS
Wiggins
Wiseman
Minnesota 1st #4
Golden State 1st #11-14
2022 GSW Unprotected 1st


to GSW
Beal
Bertans




Golden State runs out Steph/Beal/Thompson/Green/Looney with Bertans as a 6th man.

[MagicBagley18]

Who would make Beal’s list for teams he would accept a trade to?

That’s the most important question when it comes to this- at least in reality. On a trade board it’s fine to make hypothetical’s but where he wants to go and will re- sign will dictate the answer if he does ask for a trade

[TD2FutureStar]

Who would make Beal’s list for teams he would accept a trade to?

Florida and LA teams id imagine

[TD2FutureStar]

I see a few. Pelicans have the most lucrative offer in terms of draft capital.



To New Orleans
Bradley Beal


To Washington
#12
Kira Lewis JR
Eric Bledsoe
Jaxson Hayes
NIckeil Alexander Walker
2021 Cleveland 2nd
2023 New Orleans unprotected 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st
2025 New Orleans Unprotected 1st
2027 Bucks 1st


Pelicans go all in on a young core. They resign Ball and run Ball/Beal/Ingram/Zion as the core for the future. They still have more draft capital left to package for a better fitting big man like say a Myles Turner or Christian Wood as well.





Golden State is a close second if the pick ends up being 4 or 5 in this draft.



To WAS
Wiggins
Wiseman
Minnesota 1st #4
Golden State 1st #11-14
2022 GSW Unprotected 1st


to GSW
Beal
Bertans




Golden State runs out Steph/Beal/Thompson/Green/Looney with Bertans as a 6th man.

Really bad idea to trade those unprotected picks. Those often end up being disastrous moves when mediocre teams make them. Beal isn't worth all that either imo and I think NOP should look to add players in free agency and look for bargains in the trade market.

What about throwing a big offer out at Norm Powell who will be a UFA this summer. Good fit I think. Won't cost anything but cap space.

[meekrab]

What about:

Sabonis, Levert, A. Holiday, and 2021 1st

for

Beal & Hachimura?

I think the odds of Beal re-signing in Indianapolis are approximately 0 given at the moment he's the top free agent in 2022. (Wall and Westbrook opt in, Durant and Harden re-sign, Curry isn't leaving GSW, CP3 will be 37) Indy just flipped Victor "Budget Beal" Oladipo for Levert on a long term deal rather than risk that he wasn't interested in staying.

So basically Indy shouldn't offer this.