Woj: Kemba to OKC, Horford to BOS

[RoyceDa59]

Don’t think Boston wants to go back to that well. They need to package Kemba+ picks/assets for an upgraded younger star to go with Tatum and Brown. It’s the only way forward.

A rebuilding team can use Kemba to sell tickets while not winning too many games, and get some great value for him when he’s an expiring still putting up 20 a game. Meanwhile they stock pile more assets.

I could see someone like OKC or NO making a play here if it secures them more assets for the war chest.

[cjmcallist]

Win-win here. Though, I'm a little disappointed we didn't get more in return for taking on the extra guaranteed money.

Makes me wonder if Presti has found someone in the draft he wants to move up for. Adding #16 gives us that much more ammo to trade up.

[hugepatsfan]

I think this is a bad trade for the Celtics. They paid to get off Kemba (which is fine) and they're still out of the 2022 F.A. class (which is not).

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If they let Smart and RWIII walk they can create a max slot by dumping Horfords partial guarantee. I’d have to crunch exact numbers but there’s definitely a path to get the max slot. They have to commit to this year though.

[jbk1234]

I think this is a bad trade for the Celtics. They paid to get off Kemba (which is fine) and they're still out of the 2022 F.A. class (which is not).

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This trade makes it easier for them in that regard to get into the 2022 F.A. class. Still more work to do.

The guarantee on Horford's second year is too big. I'd be nervous that Brad thinks the current team is good enough to contend with a couple tweaks, internal growth, and improved chemistry.

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[Morris_Shatford]

Over/under of Presti trades this offseason? I got the line at 7.5?

16, 18, and one of Williams/Bazley to move up is already being shopped right?

Lamb, 13, future 2nd for Bazley and 18? 13 and 16 for 9?

I will take the over.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Over/under of Presti trades this offseason? I got the line at 7.5?

16, 18, and one of Williams/Bazley to move up is already being shopped right?

Lamb, 13, future 2nd for Bazley and 18? 13 and 16 for 9?

I will take the over.

I'd put my life savings on the over.

[HornetJail]

I think this is a bad trade for the Celtics. They paid to get off Kemba (which is fine) and they're still out of the 2022 F.A. class (which is not).

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I maintain #16+Kemba should've got Boston an expiring somewhere. But Horford has more value to Boston than any other team imo, and Moses Brown as a prospect isn't bad either. I think they did ok all things considered.

[Celts17Pride]

I think this is a bad trade for the Celtics. They paid to get off Kemba (which is fine) and they're still out of the 2022 F.A. class (which is not).

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This trade makes it easier for them in that regard to get into the 2022 F.A. class. Still more work to do.

The guarantee on Horford's second year is too big. I'd be nervous that Brad thinks the current team is good enough to contend with a couple tweaks, internal growth, and improved chemistry.

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Celtics are all about adding a 3rd star to Jayson and Jaylen. More tough moves are coming.

[jbk1234]

I think this is a bad trade for the Celtics. They paid to get off Kemba (which is fine) and they're still out of the 2022 F.A. class (which is not).

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If they let Smart and RWIII walk they can create a max slot by dumping Horfords partial guarantee. I’d have to crunch exact numbers but there’s definitely a path to get the max slot. They have to commit to this year though.

I think if you anticipate Kemba's deal requiring two firsts to dump, you try to make it happen with the Bulls and expiring contracts now rather than rent Horford for a season and try to dump him ahead of the guarantee date.

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[Dadouv47]

This is a very good draft to have the #16th pick. A lot of good prospects in the 10-20 range.

I like the trade for both teams but...Moses Brown sucks.

[Scoot McGroot]

Looked it up. If they execute this deal in the 20-21 league year, OKC can salary match because pretty sure the trade kicker doesn’t count for them as incoming. That means OKC won’t have to dip into cap space to do this.

They have to guarantee about half of Moses’ contract, but that shouldn’t be a problem.

However, if they had to utilize cap space, that would be a problem for OKC, as they don’t have cap space, but would have to renounce a BUNCH of huge TPE’s that they’d rather not.

[aguiar95]

Happy day for Mavs fans (for now). No more Horford/Kemba for KP deals. OKC is doing a damn good job getting picks for washed up players, then showing they aren't washed and selling them for picks. Would not be surprised if Kemba stays healthy they turn him into expirings and pick from a desperate team at the TDL.

[Parataxis]

They took a pick from 6ers to obtain Horford and just got a pick to swap him for Kemba haha wow

I'm constantly amazed at OKC's ability to constantly acquire draft picks.

[MoneyTalks41890]

This is a very good draft to have the #16th pick. A lot of good prospects in the 10-20 range.

I like the trade for both teams but...Moses Brown sucks.

Well and OKC is either going to get the 5th pick from Houston or the 18th from Miami. If OKC has 16 and 18 I imagine they go up to 12 or 13 for Giddey or Sengun. I think at the end of the day OKC is going to make 3 lottery picks in this draft.

[jredsaz]

I would expect OKC to ask for at least 15-20 million. Unlike Horford, Kemba's deal is guaranteed.

He can waive his trade kicker amount in exchange for buyout?

Because the deal happens now, the trade kicker is void, as he’s already at his maximum salary.

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Isn't this kind of more of the same? I mean damn, screwed Kemba out of $3.2 million on top of trading him to one of the worst teams in the NBA. I get Kemba was ready to move on but he had been getting shopped baisically since he joined the team. Just dont think this reflects well on the Celts like some of their other transactions, fair or not.

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[jbk1234]

Low key winner: The Pelicans might be able to send Adams back to OKC for a late first now.

Low key loser: The Mavs could've opened up a max slot in 2022 even with Horford's partial guarantee if they swapped him for KP. They're one of the few teams that could.

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[Dadouv47]

This is a very good draft to have the #16th pick. A lot of good prospects in the 10-20 range.

I like the trade for both teams but...Moses Brown sucks.

Well and OKC is either going to get the 5th pick from Houston or the 18th from Miami. If OKC has 16 and 18 I imagine they go up to 12 or 13 for Giddey or Sengun. I think at the end of the day OKC is going to make 3 lottery picks in this draft.

yeah I can see Presti combining 16 and 18 to move up and pick Sengun. How we would get 3 lottery picks though?

Not much value left (second rounders, Kenrich, future FRPs)

[Scoot McGroot]

He can waive his trade kicker amount in exchange for buyout?

Because the deal happens now, the trade kicker is void, as he’s already at his maximum salary.

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Isn't this kind of more of the same? I mean damn, screwed Kemba out of $3.2 million on top of trading him to one of the worst teams in the NBA. I get Kemba was ready to move on but he had been getting shopped baisically since he joined the team. Just dont think this reflects well on the Celts like some of their other transactions, fair or not.

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Meh. The deal was agreed, it works, and it helps both teams to do it now. Makes a ton of sense, and I don’t think it’s anything of the sort of “screwing Kemba”. At most, it was $3m. But now, OKC is absolutely free to easily re-trade that pick on draft night, which I’m sure was a big part of this deal for them.

[Texas Chuck]

Low key winner: The Pelicans might be able to send Adams back to OKC for a late first now.

Low key loser: The Mavs could've opened up a max slot in 2022 even with Horford's partial guarantee if they swapped him for KP. They're one of the few teams that could.

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OKC much more likely to get a first out of taking on Adams than giving one imo.

Dallas already such a loser this week I can't even concern myself with oh noes we can't swap KP for Horford while giving up assets to do so.

[MoneyTalks41890]

This is a very good draft to have the #16th pick. A lot of good prospects in the 10-20 range.

I like the trade for both teams but...Moses Brown sucks.

Well and OKC is either going to get the 5th pick from Houston or the 18th from Miami. If OKC has 16 and 18 I imagine they go up to 12 or 13 for Giddey or Sengun. I think at the end of the day OKC is going to make 3 lottery picks in this draft.

yeah I can see Presti combining 16 and 18 to move up and pick Sengun. How we would get 3 lottery picks though?

Not much value left (second rounders, Kenrich, future FRPs)

Idk I just think he will put some other picks on the table or take some other salary to get into the teens and move up a bit. Just a hunch.