[WOJ]: Mason Plumlee + #37 for #57 (Detroit/Charlotte)

[Pharaoh]

Detroit fans on here owe a lot of us apologies haha

And why is that?

All offseason people have posted deals of "dumping" Plumlee for small assets (as opposed to giving them up) and cap space but got chewed out by Detroit fans saying that it would be a terrible move they'd never do. And well, well how the turntables have turned here....

(Also it was said in jest, please don't take it as confrontational haha)

To be fair there was zero indication my Pistons were looking to move Plumlee.

There was nothing to suggest we desired cap space this off-season season, especially after landing the #1 pick and having 3 2nds in hand.

Our roster is very young and historically youth does not win in the NBA:

Hayes is 19
Stewart & Sekou are 20
Sirvydas is 21
Bey, Diallo & Lee are 22
Frank Jackson & Cook are 23
Josh Jackson is 24

10 dudes...plus our 4 picks...and all of them except Sekou acquired by this FO suggested that a holding pattern was likely given we will have significant cap space come July 2022.

Obvious move was to play the kids, give Grant another year in his expanded role, have Plumlee do his thing and then go shopping.

As we've seen with Weaver though nothing is obvious and he's going to do what he's going to do.

I'll wait and see before I pass judgement on the trade but with this move Detroit now has approx 18 mil to spend in free agency.

Is that enough to add significant help? We'll find out soon enough

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[Texas Chuck]

Detroit fans on here owe a lot of us apologies haha

And why is that?

All offseason people have posted deals of "dumping" Plumlee for small assets (as opposed to giving them up) and cap space but got chewed out by Detroit fans saying that it would be a terrible move they'd never do. And well, well how the turntables have turned here....

(Also it was said in jest, please don't take it as confrontational haha)

So as has been referenced itt several times, I'd wager well more than half of all Plumlee trades were posted by me. And I did try a lot of expiring/2nd rounder for Plumlee or bad 2 year contract/multiple 2nds or protected 1st or prospect for Plumlee.

And yes they were mostly rejected by Pistons fans. But what they kept saying to most of them was the value is fine but at that price we'd rather just keep him. I'm sure I was told some of the deals were terrible(I think the Dwight Powell version got this treatment. ) but mostly Pistons fans were extremely reasonable in their responses. And I was also told, yeah I'd do that by lots of Pistons threads to many versions.

In fact of all players who regularly appeared in trades I would say the Maxon Plumlee threads may have had the single most reasonable collective set of responses by the home fanbase of any series of trades here. I think his closest comp would be Terrence Ross in a solid, but not great veteran on a slightly overpaid contract. And in the Ross trades it was much more unreasonable in demands of a 1st.

[amcoolio]

Bleacher Report says Hornets after acquiring Plumlee (as a placeholder) were set to take Kai Jones before Bouknight fell.

As far as the Kai Jones trade. Let's see how Kai looks one year developed compared to next year's pick 19. He will comp with pick 10 in my opinion. He's a lottery talent.

Plumlee + PJ + Kai (+ Carey Jr. + Richards + Thor) likely indicates the Hornets have finished spending on center.

Hornets can easily bring back Monk and Graham as tradeable assets on market deals. We are out on Holmes and Allen.

We can still get creative in free agency and via trades. We don't have to spend our money on a free agent center. Teams up against the cap should beware and fans thinking of poaching any of our young talent should quit wasting their time.

You're witnessing a top shelf GM.

Kai and Thor play more like 4's, I wouldn't rule out another center and sending both Kai and Thor to the G-League the whole year. Both are incredibly raw and probably won't contribute next year at all.

[Kevin6CD]

As others have said, this deal stinks in a vacuum. Now it's a matter of what you can do with the cap space. If I had to guess, I think they're planning an offer to a wing who can help them space the floor. Maybe THJ?

[Snakebites]

Detroit fans on here owe a lot of us apologies haha

And why is that?

All offseason people have posted deals of "dumping" Plumlee for small assets (as opposed to giving them up) and cap space but got chewed out by Detroit fans saying that it would be a terrible move they'd never do. And well, well how the turntables have turned here....

(Also it was said in jest, please don't take it as confrontational haha)

I mean, if a fanbase generally likes a player who isn’t seen as being worth much on the trade market (correctly as it turns out), it’s fairly understandable that they wouldn’t want to trade him, no?

[daoneandonly]

I like this deal for Cha. Mason is a quality rotation guy, does a little bit of everything and high character. he was way overpaid in Den, but this contract is reasonable.