165bows wrote:HartfordWhalers wrote:165bows wrote:Except they actually did make a trade on draft night so this idea of growing ostracism you are promoting is simply tilting at windmills. Teams sometimes don't get along or snipe at each other through the media, that's just life.
Fact is they were the only team in the league to pick up a future first rounder on draft night.
It's all good though you can keep doing it. Doesn't really matter to me.
Pretty sure Hinkie had more trades than anyone else in his time, but apparently he was tough to trade with so no one trades with him since less than half way through.
These complaints all have the feel of that restaurant that is so crowded no one goes there anymore.
That said, I think Boston absolutely flubbed the draft big time. But if they had taken Bender at 3 (or even Murray, and maybe someone different at 16 and 23) and still not added any trades they didn't do I would feel okay with it. I just disliked the picks. The post draft posturing doesn't move the needle for me at all.
Yeah it's interesting to note that Hinkie praised Ainge as a GM in his resignation letter, yet the two never made a deal together as far as I can remember.
On their picks, they just need this huge crop of guys from '15 and '16 to pan out. Still very early on all of them though.
I want to be as clear as possible while killing the Celtics draft that its a crap shoot and some guys just outperform and make everyone look stupid (Paul George at 9, Giannis at 16). And no one had Gobert breaking out like he did. I mean Noguierra was viewed more likely to break out like that was what I saw and heard at the time, and Atlanta (and Tor) are telling you it didn't happen.
So, it absolutely can turn around big time. But if it doesn't? Then Ainge's drafting looks a lot like Cleveland's during the period they reached against consensus for Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, and then Anthony Bennett. And that is with foresight (it looked like bad odds bets at the time) and hindsight (the bets didn't pay off).
