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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#81 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:22 pm

BallnIngram wrote:So pg would sign a 3yr ext, lose out on more $ to go to bos? Yea i dont think so


I don't think he would lose money because they would give him a raise this year with the extension
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#82 » by SBM » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:24 pm

Please no-one wants that trash from Boston with or without extension from PG. If PG signs extension, the going rate is more like 5 lottery picks.
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Post#83 » by NoZoLakers » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:25 pm

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BallnIngram wrote:So pg would sign a 3yr ext, lose out on more $ to go to bos? Yea i dont think so


I don't think he would lose money because they would give him a raise this year with the extension

The reports says he loses out by signing an ext over getting a new contract
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#84 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:28 pm

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BallnIngram wrote:So pg would sign a 3yr ext, lose out on more $ to go to bos? Yea i dont think so


I don't think he would lose money because they would give him a raise this year with the extension

The reports says he loses out by signing an ext over getting a new contract


Yeah looks like they aren't thinking about the possibility of the extra money from a raise this year
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#85 » by Green_teamer » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:29 pm

SBM wrote:Please no-one wants that trash from Boston with or without extension from PG. If PG signs extension, the going rate is more like 5 lottery picks.



Lol your going to be so upset with whatever he goes for I can't wait.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#86 » by the_process » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:29 pm

Tatum, Bradley, and the 2019 MEM 1st for PG

The only problem is tying it to Hayward, I think he's staying.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#87 » by youOK » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:30 pm

Seriously at this point a young player you like + a decent pick or two is a win.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#88 » by SBM » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:30 pm

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SBM wrote:Please no-one wants that trash from Boston with or without extension from PG. If PG signs extension, the going rate is more like 5 lottery picks.



Lol your going to be so upset with whatever he goes for I can't wait.


Lol, Cousin goes for what 3 recent lottery picks, 1 yr and about 25 games, close to a rental.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#89 » by SBM » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:34 pm

the_process wrote:Tatum, Bradley, and the 2019 MEM 1st for PG

The only problem is tying it to Hayward, I think he's staying.


Does not work, that is why they are trying to put Crowder and more contracts in this.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#90 » by Green_teamer » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:36 pm

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SBM wrote:Please no-one wants that trash from Boston with or without extension from PG. If PG signs extension, the going rate is more like 5 lottery picks.



Lol your going to be so upset with whatever he goes for I can't wait.


Lol, Cousin goes for what 3 recent lottery picks, 1 yr and about 25 games, close to a rental.



George is on record saying he wants to go to the lakers and telling teams he'd be a rental. Even if he agrees he'd sign an extension there's no evidence he'd agree to sign it somewhere else. You trying to compare to other stars who were traded(especially when cousins was traded for 2 at best) is laughable. Butler was a decent package for a star who's not a flight risk and he went for a mid lottery pick a young guy with potential to be something coming off an acl injury and Dunn who was a throw in at best as he's ruiNed his value. If you guys can get even half that you should consider it a major score because the best reported offer from elsewhere is Randle and # 27 and # 28. Noone is going to give up the farm for George right now. I know your disappointed because he's your only star but at least face the reality of the situation or your not even worth arguing with
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#91 » by Green_teamer » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:38 pm

the_process wrote:Tatum, Bradley, and the 2019 MEM 1st for PG

The only problem is tying it to Hayward, I think he's staying.


If Heyward is coming we need to trade Bradley and Crowder for george with another small contract like Smart or Jackson...and ainge wouldn't even put Tatum on the table for Butler who had 2 years left he's not going to offer it for George. But if Heyward isn't coming then this whole exercise is moot because this is all contingent on Heyward coming
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#92 » by the_process » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:44 pm

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the_process wrote:Tatum, Bradley, and the 2019 MEM 1st for PG

The only problem is tying it to Hayward, I think he's staying.


If Heyward is coming we need to trade Bradley and Crowder for georg with another small contract like Smart or Jackson...and ainge wouldn't even put Tatum on the table for Butler who had 2 years left he's not going to offer it for George. But if Heyward isn't coming then this whole exercise is moot because this is all contingent on Heyward coming


OK. I heard Stevens' comments about Tatum... he could care less about the guy.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#93 » by Green_teamer » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:46 pm

the_process wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:
the_process wrote:Tatum, Bradley, and the 2019 MEM 1st for PG

The only problem is tying it to Hayward, I think he's staying.


If Heyward is coming we need to trade Bradley and Crowder for georg with another small contract like Smart or Jackson...and ainge wouldn't even put Tatum on the table for Butler who had 2 years left he's not going to offer it for George. But if Heyward isn't coming then this whole exercise is moot because this is all contingent on Heyward coming


OK. I heard Stevens' comments about Tatum... he could care less about the guy.



By everything I've seen Stevens is in love with him and seems excited for next year. Ainge was just on the radio and he said he could definitely say he would of taken Tatum # 1
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#94 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:49 pm

the_process wrote:Tatum, Bradley, and the 2019 MEM 1st for PG

The only problem is tying it to Hayward, I think he's staying.


Again, if the Celtics wouldn't trade Tatum for a guy that's locked up for an extra year, why on earth would they trade more for a guy who's publicly declared his intention to leave his current team?
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#95 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:49 pm

So the money for PG:

nba.nbcsports.com/2017/06/23/paul-george-gordon-hayward-celtics-rumor-doesnt-add-up/

The renegotiate and extend is the only route that really makes sense and I haven't done all the math to see if it's possible, but they can sign Hayward outright by declining the options they have, then trade Bradley, Crowder, Smart, LAC pick for PG, and can someone check here would they have the extra 10 mil or so for the raise? I don't think so with the lowered cap but curious
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#96 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:50 pm

SBM wrote:Please no-one wants that trash from Boston with or without extension from PG. If PG signs extension, the going rate is more like 5 lottery picks.


PG signing an extension is irrelevant to the fact that he has one year left in Indy before he leaves. Guys who publicly declare their intentions to leave don't fetch massive returns.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#97 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:10 pm

Green_teamer wrote:
the_process wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:
If Heyward is coming we need to trade Bradley and Crowder for georg with another small contract like Smart or Jackson...and ainge wouldn't even put Tatum on the table for Butler who had 2 years left he's not going to offer it for George. But if Heyward isn't coming then this whole exercise is moot because this is all contingent on Heyward coming


OK. I heard Stevens' comments about Tatum... he could care less about the guy.



By everything I've seen Stevens is in love with him and seems excited for next year. Ainge was just on the radio and he said he could definitely say he would of taken Tatum # 1


Not saying he doesn't love Tatum but going on the radio and saying that holds little weight TBH. The Kings would say we would have taken Fox first, Magic would say they would have taken Ball, Phx would say they would have taken Jackson. Gotta hype up your own guy, especially when you traded rights to Fultz.
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#98 » by Green_teamer » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:20 pm

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Green_teamer wrote:
the_process wrote:
OK. I heard Stevens' comments about Tatum... he could care less about the guy.



By everything I've seen Stevens is in love with him and seems excited for next year. Ainge was just on the radio and he said he could definitely say he would of taken Tatum # 1


Not saying he doesn't love Tatum but going on the radio and saying that holds little weight TBH. The Kings would say we would have taken Fox first, Magic would say they would have taken Ball, Phx would say they would have taken Jackson. Gotta hype up your own guy, especially when you traded rights to Fultz.


There was a tweet about Stevens admiring Tatums ESPN Highlights right after he was drafted and hmm saying to himself "Here we go" and seeming excited. There's more to it than just Ainge on the radio...by all accounts they view him as a Future Star. Getting the vibe they think he could be a Cornerstone guy
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#99 » by NoZoLakers » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:05 pm

Green_teamer wrote:
the_process wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:
If Heyward is coming we need to trade Bradley and Crowder for georg with another small contract like Smart or Jackson...and ainge wouldn't even put Tatum on the table for Butler who had 2 years left he's not going to offer it for George. But if Heyward isn't coming then this whole exercise is moot because this is all contingent on Heyward coming


OK. I heard Stevens' comments about Tatum... he could care less about the guy.



By everything I've seen Stevens is in love with him and seems excited for next year. Ainge was just on the radio and he said he could definitely say he would of taken Tatum # 1

He probably said same thing bout Brown last yr after the pick lol
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Re: Woj: Indy/Boston/PG 

Post#100 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:10 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:So the money for PG:

nba.nbcsports.com/2017/06/23/paul-george-gordon-hayward-celtics-rumor-doesnt-add-up/

The renegotiate and extend is the only route that really makes sense and I haven't done all the math to see if it's possible, but they can sign Hayward outright by declining the options they have, then trade Bradley, Crowder, Smart, LAC pick for PG, and can someone check here would they have the extra 10 mil or so for the raise? I don't think so with the lowered cap but curious


I'm not a cap expert, but would it make a difference if they did a sign-and-trade for Hayward? Trade for PG first, extend with cap space, then sign-and-trade for Hayward?

Regardless, Adam Kaufman isn't plugged in and I wouldn't take him too seriously. He's a back up radio host.

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