Oubre is on his way to SF [Shams & Woj]

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Who won the trade?

Warriors
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Thunder
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Both
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Neither
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Total votes: 40

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Re: Oubre is on his way to SF [Shams & Woj] 

Post#81 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:17 am

DeathLineup wrote:Very well said.

But props to Presti, he has made a lot of great deals to the point everyone is convinced that Thunder always won any trade.

I believe if Warriors do the exact same deal with Suns instead of Thunder, nobody would say Suns won the deal.


It's not so much the Thunder won the deal as many of us think that's way too much money for Oubre. But hey if the owners are willing to spend it and clearly they are then they get a useful player for a pick that probably conveys as 2nds. That's more than okay. And if it ends up being a first then the Warriors had a great year and they won't mind at all.

This isn't about Presti, its about money, money, money.
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Re: Oubre is on his way to SF [Shams & Woj] 

Post#82 » by Domejandro » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:28 am

That Luxury-Tax bill is ginormous.
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Post#83 » by DeathLineup » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:50 am

azwfan wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:
giberish wrote:It seems like people were insisting that GS should be trading down from #2 to #10 or getting some other late lotto pick to send to Phoenix in order to take Oubre into their TPE. Now they get him for a 21-40 pick and everyone hates it (the luxury tax issues didn't change - if anything they're less as it's been revealed that if revenues are low so there's a 30% escrow from salaries then luxury taxes will also be 30% lower).

Of course GS still needs a couple more perimeter guys. IMO they've got 8 players I'd trust to be better then replacement level and 5 are pf-C and people keep trying to have them trade for more bigs for fit.

Very well said.

But props to Presti, he has made a lot of great deals to the point everyone is convinced that Thunder always won any trade.

I believe if Warriors do the exact same deal with Suns instead of Thunder, nobody would say Suns won the deal.

You have a point, but the Suns are trying to make the playoffs while the Thunder aren't focused on that. But you have a point regardless.

It does not matter from the Warriors' perspective whether the trade partner care about making the playoffs or not.

One thing for sure, Warriors acquired the player they always wanted (Oubre) for a cheaper price than expected. Most people believe that the Warriors must swap a top 4 pick with the 10th pick for Oubre. And now they got him only for a top 20 protected pick.

That's a W for the Dubs.
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Post#84 » by Bimbo_Coles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:57 am

DeathLineup wrote:
azwfan wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:Very well said.

But props to Presti, he has made a lot of great deals to the point everyone is convinced that Thunder always won any trade.

I believe if Warriors do the exact same deal with Suns instead of Thunder, nobody would say Suns won the deal.

You have a point, but the Suns are trying to make the playoffs while the Thunder aren't focused on that. But you have a point regardless.

It does not matter from the Warriors' perspective whether the trade partner care about making the playoffs or not.

One thing for sure, Warriors acquired the player they always wanted (Oubre) for a cheaper price than expected. Most people believe that the Warriors must swap a top 4 pick with the 10th pick for Oubre. And now they got him only for a top 20 protected pick.

That's a W for the Dubs.


Seriously. You are arguing with the same people who are saying the Warriors needed to give up the 2021 Minny pick to get Fournier because they are desperate.

This is a better outcome than anyone on here was speculating for Oubre. Great trade for the Warriors. They have no choice but to try and win.
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Post#85 » by zimpy27 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:08 am

How surprised would you be if the Warriors didn't make the playoffs this next season?

I probably wouldn't be surprised
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Post#86 » by DeathLineup » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:29 am

zimpy27 wrote:How surprised would you be if the Warriors didn't make the playoffs this next season?

Nope. Not at all.

Even if Klay is not injured, I see them just barely making the playoffs. The squad around Curry, Klay and Green is very bad considering the super tough competition in the West.
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Post#87 » by migya » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:43 am

Pinkyring wrote:Warriors front office has been bad the last 12 months, trading dlo for wiggins when they could've added better cheaper pieces now adding almost 100m for a role player in oubre, just doesnt make sense


The trade for Wiggins got a lottery pick, likely 4-7 in an apparent loaded draft. That will end being a great move in three years. If Curry gets injured for two months they'll have two lottery picks and thus cheap very good players which will give a great team without having big tax.
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Post#88 » by migya » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:50 am

Bimbo_Coles wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:
azwfan wrote:You have a point, but the Suns are trying to make the playoffs while the Thunder aren't focused on that. But you have a point regardless.

It does not matter from the Warriors' perspective whether the trade partner care about making the playoffs or not.

One thing for sure, Warriors acquired the player they always wanted (Oubre) for a cheaper price than expected. Most people believe that the Warriors must swap a top 4 pick with the 10th pick for Oubre. And now they got him only for a top 20 protected pick.

That's a W for the Dubs.


Seriously. You are arguing with the same people who are saying the Warriors needed to give up the 2021 Minny pick to get Fournier because they are desperate.

This is a better outcome than anyone on here was speculating for Oubre. Great trade for the Warriors. They have no choice but to try and win.



Don't know how many years left on Oubre's contact but he is tradeable anytime, especially with Minnesota's pick next year. This move allows the Warriors to compete this season and also possibly get better fitting players the following off-season.
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Post#89 » by killmongrel » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:57 am

migya wrote:
Bimbo_Coles wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:It does not matter from the Warriors' perspective whether the trade partner care about making the playoffs or not.

One thing for sure, Warriors acquired the player they always wanted (Oubre) for a cheaper price than expected. Most people believe that the Warriors must swap a top 4 pick with the 10th pick for Oubre. And now they got him only for a top 20 protected pick.

That's a W for the Dubs.


Seriously. You are arguing with the same people who are saying the Warriors needed to give up the 2021 Minny pick to get Fournier because they are desperate.

This is a better outcome than anyone on here was speculating for Oubre. Great trade for the Warriors. They have no choice but to try and win.



Don't know how many years left on Oubre's contact but he is tradeable anytime, especially with Minnesota's pick next year. This move allows the Warriors to compete this season and also possibly get better fitting players the following off-season.
Oubre is an expiring. It's part of the reason why the Thunder weren't exactly going to get a lot for him. But what Myers was able to do was fantastic.
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Post#90 » by DeathLineup » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:28 am

killmongrel wrote:
migya wrote:
Bimbo_Coles wrote:
Seriously. You are arguing with the same people who are saying the Warriors needed to give up the 2021 Minny pick to get Fournier because they are desperate.

This is a better outcome than anyone on here was speculating for Oubre. Great trade for the Warriors. They have no choice but to try and win.



Don't know how many years left on Oubre's contact but he is tradeable anytime, especially with Minnesota's pick next year. This move allows the Warriors to compete this season and also possibly get better fitting players the following off-season.
Oubre is an expiring. It's part of the reason why the Thunder weren't exactly going to get a lot for him. But what Myers was able to do was fantastic.

Myers did well. But the owner deserve the biggest praise.

Lacob's willingness to spend a ridiculous amount of money during this tough time is truly amazing.
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Post#91 » by killmongrel » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:29 am

DeathLineup wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
migya wrote:

Don't know how many years left on Oubre's contact but he is tradeable anytime, especially with Minnesota's pick next year. This move allows the Warriors to compete this season and also possibly get better fitting players the following off-season.
Oubre is an expiring. It's part of the reason why the Thunder weren't exactly going to get a lot for him. But what Myers was able to do was fantastic.

Myers did well. But the owner deserve the biggest praise.

Lacob's willingness to spend a ridiculous amount of money during this tough time is truly amazing.
Yeah, definitely. I hope the fans recognize how awesome it is to have an owner like him.
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Post#92 » by Warriorfan » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:38 pm

If GS uses DPE 9, Oubre 15, Wiseman 8 plus GS and Min pick they may be able to trade for a star at the deadline.
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Post#93 » by gswhoops » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:41 pm

Warriorfan wrote:If GS uses DPE 9, Oubre 15, Whiteside 8 plus GS and Min pick they may be able to trade for a star at the deadline.

Boy this is an all-time Freudian slip :D
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Post#94 » by HornetJail » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:43 pm

Warriorfan wrote:If GS uses DPE 9, Oubre 15, Whiteside 8 plus GS and Min pick they may be able to trade for a star at the deadline.

attach Looney and you can salary match for Harden without having to make them take Wiggins lmao

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Post#95 » by Warriors Analyst » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:32 pm

zimpy27 wrote:How surprised would you be if the Warriors didn't make the playoffs this next season?

I probably wouldn't be surprised


Not at all surprised. Our shooting in our top 6-7 is absolute garbage. Steph is the only above average shooter. After that our best shooter is... Oubre? Wiggins doesn't shoot well, it's been half a decade since Green shot well, Wiseman is a rookie, Chriss and Looney have never shown the ability to shoot. Mychal Mulder is our second best shooter right now and he's on an non-guaranteed deal. Myers really needs to nail the FA signings. Can't be bringing in a Plumlee type at the C or a Dunn or MCW as the back-up point guard.
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Post#96 » by gswhoops » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:38 pm

zimpy27 wrote:How surprised would you be if the Warriors didn't make the playoffs this next season?

I probably wouldn't be surprised

I would be mildly surprised if they missed the playoffs completely, even without Klay. I see us as likely somewhere in the 5-7 seed range depending on how the rest of the offseason goes. We definitely need at least one more wing and a backup PG.

Competition in the West for the 4-8 seeds is going to be brutal though. There's probably 8 or 9 teams that have a shot at those spots.
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Post#97 » by Balkman32 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:39 pm

Domejandro wrote:That Luxury-Tax bill is ginormous.


I hear the Thunder have a trade exception they can use to take on guy or 5.

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