Official: Lebron to Philly

[daoneandonly]

I still feel like this is still the best option. Also an underrated factor here could be that Gafford is a Klutch client.

I’d like it better for all parties with Joel/Butler swap.

Dallas getting whatever value Philly adds - GSW getting Curry to playoffs..

So Embiid to GSW, Butler and 33 PHI 1st to DAL, Klay/PJ/Gafford to PHI?

Works for me.

I think Dallas should push for Philon as well. At the very least a Philon/de Larrea swap

[nolaPELSfan]

If you’ve got a VJ deal in mind then post it. I don’t think that framework makes sense but it depends on the specifics

An idea i had
'27 NOP/MIL better 1st, Herb, and Missi
for
VJ & Barlow

Or maybe they need Bey too and add more back. Karlo might make sense. Interesting?

No interest in trading Edgecombe. And there’s no way the Sixers let a soon to be 42 year old be LeGM.

That being said, I can still see the motivation to trade Embiid.

2 birds one stone?
VJ, Embiid, Barlow & 1st for
Murphy, Bey, Missi, Karlo & Poole

Starter upgrade and bench fortification, shooting addition, salary shedding; this trade has everything!

Maxey/Simons/Philon
Murphy/Poole/Love
Brown/Bey/Edwards
Lebron/Wade/Karlo
Missi/Hukporti/Bona
?

[SlimShady83]

There it is people, now Lakers can look for a trade for Bronny

[jayjaysee]

I’d like it better for all parties with Joel/Butler swap.

Dallas getting whatever value Philly adds - GSW getting Curry to playoffs..

So Embiid to GSW, Butler and 33 PHI 1st to DAL, Klay/PJ/Gafford to PHI?

Works for me.

I think Dallas should push for Philon as well. At the very least a Philon/de Larrea swap

I think Dallas asks for Philon and ends up getting Broome and/or some seconds?

Fine settling for a high variance asset like a 2033 first though versus getting two immediate low ceiling assets shopping PJ/Gaff else where.

[ReggiesKnicks]

LeBron joined to play with his Olympic teammate, not trade him for New Orleans finest.

[mademan]

So Embiid to GSW, Butler and 33 PHI 1st to DAL, Klay/PJ/Gafford to PHI?

Works for me.

I think Dallas should push for Philon as well. At the very least a Philon/de Larrea swap

I think Dallas asks for Philon and ends up getting Broome and/or some seconds?

Fine settling for a high variance asset like a 2033 first though versus getting two immediate low ceiling assets shopping PJ/Gaff else where.

I still dont think Dallas does anything until they see the Lakers play and see if they can convince Luka to come back. They fired the GM that traded him and the fan base loves him. If LA flames out over the next 2 years with play in/out of playoff seasons in a tough West, the possibility is there, remote as it may be.

[zimpy27]

I really thought it would be Miami but Sixers was 2nd on my list.

Saying Knicks would have been it if they didn't win was the clue. The next biggest market with the next biggest drought after Knicks was Philly

[jayjaysee]

I think Dallas should push for Philon as well. At the very least a Philon/de Larrea swap

I think Dallas asks for Philon and ends up getting Broome and/or some seconds?

Fine settling for a high variance asset like a 2033 first though versus getting two immediate low ceiling assets shopping PJ/Gaff else where.

I still dont think Dallas does anything until they see the Lakers play and see if they can convince Luka to come back. They fired the GM that traded him and the fan base loves him. If LA flames out over the next 2 years with play in/out of playoff seasons in a tough West, the possibility is there, remote as it may be.

This has changed to Butler and assets to Dallas.. Joel going to Dray/Curry.

[mademan]

I think Dallas asks for Philon and ends up getting Broome and/or some seconds?

Fine settling for a high variance asset like a 2033 first though versus getting two immediate low ceiling assets shopping PJ/Gaff else where.

I still dont think Dallas does anything until they see the Lakers play and see if they can convince Luka to come back. They fired the GM that traded him and the fan base loves him. If LA flames out over the next 2 years with play in/out of playoff seasons in a tough West, the possibility is there, remote as it may be.

This has changed to Butler and assets to Dallas.. Joel going to Dray/Curry.

Did not see that. If im GSW, i cut out Philly, as Curry might have his own availability issues as a 38 year old guard and spam depth instead. PJ/Gafford/Naji for Butler and an unprotected 1st (negotiate the year) and some minor prospect. GSW bets on adding PJ/Gafford/Naji/Yaxel to their team pushes them to the playoffs and gives them an outside shot if they get perfect health and other teams get unlucky, while Dallas gets a high variance pick instead of 2 bad 1sts for PJ and Gaff

[nolaPELSfan]

LeBron joined to play with his Olympic teammate, not trade him for New Orleans finest.

Turning em into a bench mob ain't half-bad tho...

[Skybox]

I get it...He's all about his legacy...if he brings rings to FOUR different teams, that's a heckuva case for GOAT (regardless of whether you think he only jumps to stacked teams). Bronny is an interesting sidebar - LBJ would certainly want him along for the ride and possible ring (Bronny's realistically a G-League guy elsewhere)...Love to see LAL hold out for a real asset rather than just help out.

[babyjax13]

He figured out how to step back and let Luka and Reaves shine, I am pretty excited by this. East seems really good now. Would love them to get a better backup center.

[jbk1234]

I haven't seen whether the second year is a P.O. I assume it is on a minimum deal, but does anyone know?

[ReggiesKnicks]

I haven't seen whether the second year is a P.O. I assume it is on a minimum deal, but does anyone know?

It was reported as a P.O.

[HartfordWhalers]

Wow

[MoneyTalks41890]

Does the PO even on a 1+1 give he a de facto NTC? Or does it need to be more years at stake?

[nykballa2k4]

Makes the most basketball sense. Still just feels weird. Just a random one (maybe 2?) year stint on a team he has no affiliation with to end his career. I always though CLE or MIA made more sense just legacy and happiness wise. But if the goal is solely winning another ring this felt best IMO.

That PHI roster is stacked but an interesting mix. Will be interesting to see how they manage spacing and ball handline. All of VJ/Brown/Lebron/Embiid CAN shoot in general but all below league average percentages wise and Maxey is kind of streaky/inconsistent there too. Pace of play mismatch with Embiid/Brown both playing really slow and the others best in transition. How they balance lineups and ball handling responsibilities will be fascinating to see. Luckily for them they have an actual schematics coach in Nurse instead of a good vibe tribes type of guy. As stacked as they are, they'll definitely need those Xs and Os sorted out.

With a modicum of health Philly should be at least 50/50 to go to the finals. It will be interesting because I feel like the Celtics over achieved last year and it of course crashed in the playoffs, this year they could play more to their roster since so many teams are fighting off relegation. Knicks too last year seemed to coast, but now with less depth if they play as meh as they did last regular season they could be in play-in territory.

Sixers with just Brown-Edgecomb-Maxey are competitive enough to be a playoff team. Add 20 games of Embiid and 50 games of 25 minute LeBron and it would be hard to imagine them not at the top of the east.

[dcstanley]

O/U 15 games before VJ is benched and Maxey/Brown/Wade/Bron/Embiid becomes the starting lineup?

[ReggiesKnicks]

O/U 15 games before VJ is benched and Maxey/Brown/Wade/Bron/Embiid becomes the starting lineup?

Over pretty easily

[hugepatsfan]

Makes the most basketball sense. Still just feels weird. Just a random one (maybe 2?) year stint on a team he has no affiliation with to end his career. I always though CLE or MIA made more sense just legacy and happiness wise. But if the goal is solely winning another ring this felt best IMO.

That PHI roster is stacked but an interesting mix. Will be interesting to see how they manage spacing and ball handline. All of VJ/Brown/Lebron/Embiid CAN shoot in general but all below league average percentages wise and Maxey is kind of streaky/inconsistent there too. Pace of play mismatch with Embiid/Brown both playing really slow and the others best in transition. How they balance lineups and ball handling responsibilities will be fascinating to see. Luckily for them they have an actual schematics coach in Nurse instead of a good vibe tribes type of guy. As stacked as they are, they'll definitely need those Xs and Os sorted out.

With a modicum of health Philly should be at least 50/50 to go to the finals. It will be interesting because I feel like the Celtics over achieved last year and it of course crashed in the playoffs, this year they could play more to their roster since so many teams are fighting off relegation. Knicks too last year seemed to coast, but now with less depth if they play as meh as they did last regular season they could be in play-in territory.

Sixers with just Brown-Edgecomb-Maxey are competitive enough to be a playoff team. Add 20 games of Embiid and 50 games of 25 minute LeBron and it would be hard to imagine them not at the top of the east.

Knicks just had one of the most dominant title runs ever, maybe the most. Certainly by many metrics. You're not going to convince me that they're going to end up in the play in mix haha

It's definitely interesting though. MIA and PHI were in the play in and both have made moves that should elevate them substantially. IND getting Hali back and not tanking should be another team in the mix. Giannis/Bam are both great individually and Spo is a coaching God, but I'm still a little down on MIA because the pieces just seem clunky. But they're still much elevated.

On the downside, BOS's depth of "serviceable" players and their coaching set them up perfectly to stack wins against a league full of tankers last year. I think they're better on paper with the PG/Mitch additions and Tatum taking over for Brown (I know Brown as good or better than Tatum is a hot take but I honestly don't and have never thought it was even close), but less tankers probably means less of a win total for them IMO because they're built to "beat who you should and lose to who you should" and they'll have less games they "should" win this year. ATL was awesome in the 2nd half last year but I'm skeptical. I feel like people love all their 3&D players but I feel like they're due to stagnate unless Jalen Johnson breaks out into an actually elite player. I think DET's 60 wins were fools' gold last year.