Random Rumors and Trade Board General Thoughts Thread

[Texas Chuck]

When can OKC trade Oubre?

He can be traded as soon as the Chris Paul deal is finalized. However, his salary can't be aggregated with another player for salary matching purposes for 2 months (basically he can only be traded by himself).

This.

But since Phoenix is likely asking OKC to hold off on making it official (bc that’s obvious for Phoenix)... Presti has plenty of time to come up with a landing spot for Oubre+Whatever and make the deal into a three team trade.

Nope. It's already official.

[Kilo]

He can be traded as soon as the Chris Paul deal is finalized. However, his salary can't be aggregated with another player for salary matching purposes for 2 months (basically he can only be traded by himself).

This.

But since Phoenix is likely asking OKC to hold off on making it official (bc that’s obvious for Phoenix)... Presti has plenty of time to come up with a landing spot for Oubre+Whatever and make the deal into a three team trade.

Nope. It's already official.

I read it wouldn't be because it would eat into PHX's cap space they want to spend in FA or something. $5M extra they take on comes out of their off-season cap space once trade is made and if they waited until after FA signing the trade could still happen and they could make a big(ger) FA signing.

[Texas Chuck]

This.

But since Phoenix is likely asking OKC to hold off on making it official (bc that’s obvious for Phoenix)... Presti has plenty of time to come up with a landing spot for Oubre+Whatever and make the deal into a three team trade.

Nope. It's already official.

I read it wouldn't be because it would eat into PHX's cap space they want to spend in FA or something. $5M extra they take on comes out of their off-season cap space once trade is made and if they waited until after FA signing the trade could still happen and they could make a big(ger) FA signing.

Yeah but we have multiple confirmations that the deal is done. I think we all figured it would wait and let Phoenix explore FA but clearly at least one of the teams insisted it be done now.

[jayjaysee]

He can be traded as soon as the Chris Paul deal is finalized. However, his salary can't be aggregated with another player for salary matching purposes for 2 months (basically he can only be traded by himself).

This.

But since Phoenix is likely asking OKC to hold off on making it official (bc that’s obvious for Phoenix)... Presti has plenty of time to come up with a landing spot for Oubre+Whatever and make the deal into a three team trade.

Nope. It's already official.

I do believe you.

But do think that is very wasteful. For both sides honestly.

OKC could have taken back more bad salary from third team trade thanks to the extra money Phoenix was taking on, right? Presti losing that 6-7 million of salary eating potential is small I understand - but wasteful and weird. He’s smarter than that.

[Texas Chuck]

This.
But do think that is very wasteful. For both sides honestly.

OKC could have taken back more bad salary from third team trade thanks to the extra money Phoenix was taking on, right?

Yeah I've trying to figure out why this was rushed through. I'm assuming there is an obvious benefit to OKC that my little brain just hasn't figured out yet.

[jayjaysee]

This.
But do think that is very wasteful. For both sides honestly.

OKC could have taken back more bad salary from third team trade thanks to the extra money Phoenix was taking on, right?

Yeah I've trying to figure out why this was rushed through. I'm assuming there is an obvious benefit to OKC that my little brain just hasn't figured out yet.

Honestly - I kind of expect OKC to keep both Rubio and Oubre because of that. If Presti was planning on flipping them this offseason - he would have waited. Maybe Presti isn’t allowed to completely tank this time and they try and bring back Gallo?

[Texas Chuck]

Honestly - I kind of expect OKC to keep both Rubio and Oubre because of that. If Presti was planning on flipping them this offseason - he would have waited. Maybe Presti isn’t allowed to completely tank this time and they try and bring back Gallo?

Maybe. And I was kinda pushing the idea they shouldn't tank. I guess if Gallo will take a big 2 year deal it could make some sense.

I still think they will keep selling, but who knows. He can certainly keep them and flip Oubre at the deadline and maybe Rubio too.

[wolves_89]

This.
But do think that is very wasteful. For both sides honestly.

OKC could have taken back more bad salary from third team trade thanks to the extra money Phoenix was taking on, right?

Yeah I've trying to figure out why this was rushed through. I'm assuming there is an obvious benefit to OKC that my little brain just hasn't figured out yet.

The only thing I can see is that by doing the deal now Lecque's $1.5M salary for next season can remain fully unguaranteed.

EDIT: My mistake, it's actually 2021-22 that Lecque's contract is unguaranteed, so this has no bearing on the current deal.

[jayjaysee]

Honestly - I kind of expect OKC to keep both Rubio and Oubre because of that. If Presti was planning on flipping them this offseason - he would have waited. Maybe Presti isn’t allowed to completely tank this time and they try and bring back Gallo?

Maybe. And I was kinda pushing the idea they shouldn't tank. I guess if Gallo will take a big 2 year deal it could make some sense.

I still think they will keep selling, but who knows. He can certainly keep them and flip Oubre at the deadline and maybe Rubio too.

Yeah, they could flip Oubre mid season and keep Gallo/Rubio to avoid a total tank. And maybe that’s smart of Presti given Oubre’s injury and probable low trade value right now?

[K_chile22]

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Wow! I assume Kyrie has to be in the deal?

Nope, it is literally just the Caris LeVert, Spencer Dinwiddie, etc. platter of mediocrity (hence Houston's lack of interest).

Yeah, no matter how badly harden wants it, hard to see anything happening there. Even as a rental (for two+one seasons, mind you) he should return a much better package than that unless the rockets are just stupid, which I mean, maybe. Harden wants to team up with KD and Kyrie. Nets want to have him with those two. This nets don't have enough to get Harden without kyrie.

[pacers33granger]

Taking that $50 mil a year would have been a death sentence to Hardens prime. There's no way Houston could afford to put a contending team around him with their money constraints. And he'd look like he just took the money even if he may be deserving of the extension.

[K_chile22]

Taking that $50 mil a year would have been a death sentence to Hardens prime. There's no way Houston could afford to put a contending team around him with their money constraints. And he'd look like he just took the money even if he may be deserving of the extension.

He only needs to have two more seasons around where he is now and he can opt out and get that from the nets anyways. It's really not that big a deal for someone who has already made as much as he has. He wants out, he can recoup that money anywhere he's traded. Not a huge deal

[Texas Chuck]

Taking that $50 mil a year would have been a death sentence to Hardens prime. There's no way Houston could afford to put a contending team around him with their money constraints. And he'd look like he just took the money even if he may be deserving of the extension.

He only needs to have two more seasons around where he is now and he can opt out and get that from the nets anyways. It's really not that big a deal for someone who has already made as much as he has. He wants out, he can recoup that money anywhere he's traded. Not a huge deal

Well its a big deal in that its clear he's not married to Houston again otherwise you definitely lock up $100M gtd. I get that he's been extremely durable and has shown no decline, but if you are happy where you are you definitely don't take a needless risk no matter how much money you've already made.

[K_chile22]

Taking that $50 mil a year would have been a death sentence to Hardens prime. There's no way Houston could afford to put a contending team around him with their money constraints. And he'd look like he just took the money even if he may be deserving of the extension.

He only needs to have two more seasons around where he is now and he can opt out and get that from the nets anyways. It's really not that big a deal for someone who has already made as much as he has. He wants out, he can recoup that money anywhere he's traded. Not a huge deal

Well its a big deal in that its clear he's not married to Houston again otherwise you definitely lock up $100M gtd. I get that he's been extremely durable and has shown no decline, but if you are happy where you are you definitely don't take a needless risk no matter how much money you've already made.

Well of course, it would be a big deal if we all didn't already know he wants to leave lol

[MotownMadness]

Hopefully the Rockets can get Ben Simmons for Harden. I would be pretty happy to start a rebuild with him and not anything the Nets have.

[blind prophet]

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With what draft compensation though?

We'll just match most likely.

[kalenclayton]

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With what draft compensation though?

We'll just match most likely.

What will the Bucks even be able to offer to make it worthwhile? They just gave up everything for Jrue. Divincenzo, Wilson, and Ersan? Is that even enticing enough?

[MoneyTalks41890]

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With what draft compensation though?

We'll just match most likely.

What will the Bucks even be able to offer to make it worthwhile? They just gave up everything for Jrue. Divincenzo, Wilson, and Ersan? Is that even enticing enough?

In a sign and trade I think that’s just right.

[blind prophet]

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With what draft compensation though?

We'll just match most likely.

What will the Bucks even be able to offer to make it worthwhile? They just gave up everything for Jrue. Divincenzo, Wilson, and Ersan? Is that even enticing enough?

Think we'd be better off matching, maybe the Hawks rumor would be more enticing?

His agent should caution him about the match possibility.

We had to deal with that with Lavine and Porter.

[MoneyTalks41890]

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With what draft compensation though?

We'll just match most likely.

What will the Bucks even be able to offer to make it worthwhile? They just gave up everything for Jrue. Divincenzo, Wilson, and Ersan? Is that even enticing enough?

In a sign and trade I think that’s just right.

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