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Post#841 » by gambitx777 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:25 am

Now we can talk about what ham sammmitch the beta are gonna trade Kyrie for and will he retire or can a team talk him into playing for revenge and justice against the nets. LoL

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Post#842 » by gom » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:10 am

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ouch hornets... 22 turnovers and less than 20% perimeter shooting. Looks like a game when everything went wrong for one team. Mavs are pretty damn good though! :-)
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Post#843 » by K_chile22 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:37 am

Between this and missing the last and the next pre season games with "personal reasons" I have a feeling the much traded on this board Danuel House is about to be given away for a roster spot

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Post#844 » by babyjax13 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:03 am

K_chile22 wrote:Between this and missing the last and the next pre season games with "personal reasons" I have a feeling the much traded on this board Danuel House is about to be given away for a roster spot

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Post#845 » by LAL1947 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:02 am

K_chile22 wrote:Between this and missing the last and the next pre season games with "personal reasons" I have a feeling the much traded on this board Danuel House is about to be given away for a roster spot

If House does get cut, Indiana might be a good landing spot for him. Or have they filled the SF position?

I think Dallas could use him too but have their own troubles trying to cut their roster down.
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Post#846 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:21 pm

K_chile22 wrote:Between this and missing the last and the next pre season games with "personal reasons" I have a feeling the much traded on this board Danuel House is about to be given away for a roster spot

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Interesting. I had read this signing as Exum and his non-gtd self losing his spot.
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Post#847 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:00 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:Between this and missing the last and the next pre season games with "personal reasons" I have a feeling the much traded on this board Danuel House is about to be given away for a roster spot

If House does get cut, Indiana might be a good landing spot for him. Or have they filled the SF position?

I think Dallas could use him too but have their own troubles trying to cut their roster down.


Justin Holiday, Chris Duarte, and Torrey Craig are likely filling that role until Warren returns. We could waive Kelan for the spot, as Kelan is more of a SG than SF, like Lamb, but if House is looking for a major role, I think he’d find it elsewhere rather than Indy.
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Post#848 » by K_chile22 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:14 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:Between this and missing the last and the next pre season games with "personal reasons" I have a feeling the much traded on this board Danuel House is about to be given away for a roster spot

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Interesting. I had read this signing as Exum and his non-gtd self losing his spot.
I think exum has played really well in pre season and fits better so was thinking he'd stick around but you very well may be right. House just makes it hard to find minutes for KJ Martin, Tate, Sengun (only because one less forward means more double big lineups) and Nwaba who they just paid.
Between that and the lingering weirdness over the bubble situation it just feels like it's time to move on, but that's just speculation on my part
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Post#849 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:41 pm

Well I think they should have no trouble moving House if he is the odd man out. I'd still take him in Dallas.
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Post#851 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:09 pm

Woj reporting Horst got his extension from the Bucks. Makes sense after putting the title team together and since Bud got his.
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Post#852 » by NYG » Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:50 am

I'm working on a trade concept...

Kevin Knox for Al-Farouq Aminu

Knicks flip Aminu for $15 Million or less player

Is Kuzma a fit here or would Washington want to keep him?

Can the Magic get Aminu back yet? Terrance Ross?

What would the Knicks need to add in these cases? What other options make sense?
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Post#853 » by Resistance » Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:17 am

NYG wrote:I'm working on a trade concept...

Kevin Knox for Al-Farouq Aminu

Knicks flip Aminu for $15 Million or less player

Is Kuzma a fit here or would Washington want to keep him?

Can the Magic get Aminu back yet? Terrance Ross?

What would the Knicks need to add in these cases? What other options make sense?


Knicks


Depth Chart*:
PG: Kemba Walker, Derrick Rose, Luca Vildoza, Miles McBride
SG: Evan Fournier, Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes
SF: RJ Barrett, Alec Burks, Kevin Knox, Dwayne Bacon (summer contract), MJ Walker (summer contract)
PF: Julius Randle, Obi Toppin, Aamir Simms (summer contract)
C: Nerlens Noel, Mitchell Robinson, Taj Gibson, Jericho Sims (two-way)


Is that Depth Chart reasonably close to right?

If it is, why would the Knicks want to pay Kuzma $13 million to come off the bench?


I have Washington preferring to burn off some time on blah contracts rather than include compensation to move them. If Washington includes acceptable compensation, then that is different.
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Post#854 » by Resistance » Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:08 am

NYG wrote:I'm working on a trade concept...

Kevin Knox for Al-Farouq Aminu

Knicks flip Aminu for $15 Million or less player

Is Kuzma a fit here or would Washington want to keep him?

Can the Magic get Aminu back yet? Terrance Ross?

What would the Knicks need to add in these cases? What other options make sense?



If the Knicks were interested in Kuzma and Washington wanted to get rid of his contract for expiring, then wouldn't this have been possible?

86. How do simultaneous trades work? How much salary can a team take back in a simultaneous trade?

Non-Taxpaying Teams

Outgoing salary....................Maximum incoming salary
$0 to $6,533,333..................175% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,0005
$6,533,334 to $19.6 million.....The outgoing salary plus $5 million
$19.6 million and up..............125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000



Kyle Kuzma.....$13,000,000

Kevin Knox.......$5,845,978
Luca Vildoza.....$3,325,000


NYK is sending out over $9 million, so it looks good to bring back Kuzma and his $13 million.

Guarantee Vildoza as needed to get a trade done and Washington then closes out the rest of his contract which is either Non-Guaranteed or TO.


Knicks
In: Kuzma
Out Knox, Vildoza


Washington
In: Knox, Vildoza
Out Kuzma


Since the trade didn't happen, at least one of the teams wasn't interested.


Not that Knox is anything special, but he might be more useful to Dallas than Burke and is an expiring. If Dallas was interested:


Kyle Kuzma.....$13,000,000.....................

Kevin Knox.......$5,845,978.....................
Luca Vildoza.....$3,325,000.....................

Trey Burke.......$3,150,000........$3,300,000 - PO


Dallas
In: Knox
Out Burke, Cash

Knicks
In: Kuzma
Out Knox, Vildoza


Washington
In: Burke, Vildoza, Cash
Out Kuzma


Dallas -- Gets rid of Burke and his PO for next season. Gets an expiring Wing that may or may not be a rotation player.

Washington -- Reduces salary this season and creates a modest TPE. Gets rid of Kuzma's future money. Gets Cash to cover Burke's 2022-23 salary.

Knicks -- Gets Kuzma. Not my idea, so will leave the reasoning unspecified.
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Post#855 » by Domejandro » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:34 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Woj reporting Horst got his extension from the Bucks. Makes sense after putting the title team together and since Bud got his.

Well deserved. Jon Horst went all in asset-wise on Jrue Holiday, and it paid off with a Championship.
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Post#856 » by shangrila » Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:28 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Woj reporting Horst got his extension from the Bucks. Makes sense after putting the title team together and since Bud got his.

Well deserved. Jon Horst went all in asset-wise on Jrue Holiday, and it paid off with a Championship.

I’d be seriously concerned about his competency after the Bogdanovic screw up. And then with that weird contract thing that happened with Pat (? I think it was him).

But as a reward for the championship? Sure. And he probably sealed an extension of some kind the minute Giannis signed his.
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Post#857 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:00 pm

Exactly when are rosters due? Hornets have one player to waive. We all think it's Wes Iwundu.
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Post#858 » by K_chile22 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:02 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Exactly when are rosters due? Hornets have one player to waive. We all think it's Wes Iwundu.
Monday I believe
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Post#859 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:16 pm

So I don’t know if this has come up yet but since the Bucks are being discussed…. Giannis has been making a lot of jumpers, confidently. If that’s here to stay, won’t really matter what else the Bucks do or don’t do need it’s their roster
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Post#860 » by HartfordWhalers » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:20 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Exactly when are rosters due? Hornets have one player to waive. We all think it's Wes Iwundu.
Monday I believe


I believe the deadline is today by 5pm to not have the roster charge though.

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