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Post#941 » by giberish » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:09 am

mlloyd10 wrote:Anyone find it odd that Rich Paul suggests Giannis to the Hawks for a trade involving Jalen Johnson when Rich Paul Represents Johnson

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That is odd. He might have a higher chance of getting a full 30% max 3rd deal on a Mil team with little else that's acquired him for Giannis, but it's also likely not to be a good team for several years.

I wonder if he talked to JJ before posting this.
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Post#942 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:12 am

AD for Risacher, Kennard, Porzingis and a pick?
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Post#943 » by jayjaysee » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:18 am

zimpy27 wrote:
I also think Dallas should keep AD. Trading him seems like an emotional reaction.

Kyrie, Christie, Flagg, PJ, Davis is a strong team and could contend for a few years.
Trade one of Lively or Gafford. Keep Naji and Klay. Look for a longterm backup PG (might be Nembhard)


If you can get a player / draft pick that you think can be a long term piece with Cooper Flagg, I think the team should be comfortable with Kyrie/PJ being the adults around Flagg/youth the next few years.

If all it is is late/strongly protected firsts for AD.. I think you extend AD next offseason and enjoy a really good team the 50 or so games he plays the next couple years.
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Post#944 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:46 am

NYG wrote:I think Houston threads the needle of being a contender that can give value and match salaries plus would be a city/franchise Giannis would agree to in hindsight if a deal was agreed to already. That's my Giannis pick.


Bucks get:
Fred VanVleet
Team X Salary Filler
Team X Pick(s)
2027 Suns 1st via Rockets
2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Team X gets:
Alperen Sengun

Who is Team X?


Could Boston add enough picks/swaps to Simons/Hauser to be Team X?
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Post#945 » by SkyHook » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:47 am

NYG wrote:I think Houston threads the needle of being a contender that can give value and match salaries plus would be a city/franchise Giannis would agree to in hindsight if a deal was agreed to already. That's my Giannis pick.


Bucks get:
Fred VanVleet
Team X Salary Filler
Team X Pick(s)
2027 Suns 1st via Rockets
2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Team X gets:
Alperen Sengun

Who is Team X?

If you believe the speculation (I don't) that the Jazz want to make win-now moves... Nurk & Niang's expirings + a bunch of picks?

I think that the Bucks would be better off taking Sengun and moving Turner though. There should be plenty of suitors.
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Post#946 » by brackdan70 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:53 am

NYG wrote:AD for Risacher, Kennard, Porzingis and a pick?

Seems reasonable depending on the pick. Probably not the NOP one but another one.
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Post#947 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:53 am

SkyHook wrote:
NYG wrote:I think Houston threads the needle of being a contender that can give value and match salaries plus would be a city/franchise Giannis would agree to in hindsight if a deal was agreed to already. That's my Giannis pick.


Bucks get:
Fred VanVleet
Team X Salary Filler
Team X Pick(s)
2027 Suns 1st via Rockets
2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Team X gets:
Alperen Sengun

Who is Team X?

If you believe the speculation (I don't) that the Jazz want to make win-now moves... Nurk & Niang's expirings + a bunch of picks?

I think that the Bucks would be better off taking Sengun and moving Turner though. There should be plenty of suitors.


I'd say they could move both at that point and just go full rebuild
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Post#948 » by SkyHook » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:06 am

NYG wrote:
SkyHook wrote:
NYG wrote:I think Houston threads the needle of being a contender that can give value and match salaries plus would be a city/franchise Giannis would agree to in hindsight if a deal was agreed to already. That's my Giannis pick.


Bucks get:
Fred VanVleet
Team X Salary Filler
Team X Pick(s)
2027 Suns 1st via Rockets
2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Team X gets:
Alperen Sengun

Who is Team X?

If you believe the speculation (I don't) that the Jazz want to make win-now moves... Nurk & Niang's expirings + a bunch of picks?

I think that the Bucks would be better off taking Sengun and moving Turner though. There should be plenty of suitors.


I'd say they could move both at that point and just go full rebuild

That too, though Sengun is both young enough and signed for long enough to be part of their next good team.
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Post#949 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:07 am

SkyHook wrote:
NYG wrote:
SkyHook wrote:If you believe the speculation (I don't) that the Jazz want to make win-now moves... Nurk & Niang's expirings + a bunch of picks?

I think that the Bucks would be better off taking Sengun and moving Turner though. There should be plenty of suitors.


I'd say they could move both at that point and just go full rebuild

That too, though Sengun is both young enough and signed for long enough to be part of their next good team.


Yeah I guess it would depend on the pick return
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Post#950 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:09 am

NYG wrote:
SkyHook wrote:
NYG wrote:
I'd say they could move both at that point and just go full rebuild

That too, though Sengun is both young enough and signed for long enough to be part of their next good team.


Yeah I guess it would depend on the pick return


Sometimes the headline of X amount of 1sts for Player A looks better optics wise for some reason too
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Post#951 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:16 am

How many picks would the Warriors add to...

Kuminga, Hield and Podziemski for Sengun?
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Post#952 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:44 am

giberish wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Anyone find it odd that Rich Paul suggests Giannis to the Hawks for a trade involving Jalen Johnson when Rich Paul Represents Johnson

Read on Twitter


That is odd. He might have a higher chance of getting a full 30% max 3rd deal on a Mil team with little else that's acquired him for Giannis, but it's also likely not to be a good team for several years.

I wonder if he talked to JJ before posting this.

As a young player you wouldn’t want a guaranteed max in a hard to find a max cap environment ?
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Post#953 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:04 am

Godaddycurse wrote:.


If Giannis went to Houston in a deal where the Bucks got Sengun, but preferred picks from a third team..

A) Would Toronto want Sengun?
B) How many picks would they give?
C) What would be their preferred matching outgoing salary
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Post#954 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:06 am

brackdan70 wrote:
NYG wrote:AD for Risacher, Kennard, Porzingis and a pick?

Seems reasonable depending on the pick. Probably not the NOP one but another one.


Which pick makes sense?
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Post#955 » by Godaddycurse » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:28 am

NYG wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:.


If Giannis went to Houston in a deal where the Bucks got Sengun, but preferred picks from a third team..

A) Would Toronto want Sengun?
B) How many picks would they give?
C) What would be their preferred matching outgoing salary


i think bucks would keep sengun. I dont see toronto having interest after recent poeltl extension and our poor interior D.
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Post#956 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:30 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
NYG wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:.


If Giannis went to Houston in a deal where the Bucks got Sengun, but preferred picks from a third team..

A) Would Toronto want Sengun?
B) How many picks would they give?
C) What would be their preferred matching outgoing salary


i think bucks would keep sengun. I dont see toronto having interest after recent poeltl extension and our poor interior D.


Sengun is a good defensive center and a significantly better player than Poeltl. That makes little sense why you guys wouldn't want a Top 10-15 player in the NBA.
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Post#957 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:38 am

Boston Celtics get:
Alperen Sengun

Houston Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Milwaukee Bucks get:
Anfernee Simons
Sam Hauser
Fred VanVleet
2026 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick
2027 Unprotected Phoenix Suns First Round Draft Pick
2028 Lower of Celtics/Spurs First Round Draft Pick
2029 Earliest of Suns/Rockets/Mavericks First Round Draft Pick
2029 Second Earliest of Suns/Rockets/Mavericks First Round Draft Pick
2030 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick
2032 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick

7 Unprotected 1sts plus whatever they get in a follow-up Turner deal.
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Post#958 » by Godaddycurse » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:51 am

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
NYG wrote:
If Giannis went to Houston in a deal where the Bucks got Sengun, but preferred picks from a third team..

A) Would Toronto want Sengun?
B) How many picks would they give?
C) What would be their preferred matching outgoing salary


i think bucks would keep sengun. I dont see toronto having interest after recent poeltl extension and our poor interior D.


Sengun is a good defensive center and a significantly better player than Poeltl. That makes little sense why you guys wouldn't want a Top 10-15 player in the NBA.


i think his defense would look alot worse on raptors vs on rockets.
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Post#959 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:55 am

NYG wrote:Boston Celtics get:
Alperen Sengun

Houston Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Milwaukee Bucks get:
Anfernee Simons
Sam Hauser
Fred VanVleet
2026 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick
2027 Unprotected Phoenix Suns First Round Draft Pick
2028 Lower of Celtics/Spurs First Round Draft Pick
2029 Earliest of Suns/Rockets/Mavericks First Round Draft Pick
2029 Second Earliest of Suns/Rockets/Mavericks First Round Draft Pick
2030 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick
2032 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick

7 Unprotected 1sts plus whatever they get in a follow-up Turner deal.

not that I think it's advisable to do so, but I think other teams would top this Celtics offer for Sengun
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Post#960 » by NYG » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:56 am

HornetJail wrote:
NYG wrote:Boston Celtics get:
Alperen Sengun

Houston Rockets get:
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Milwaukee Bucks get:
Anfernee Simons
Sam Hauser
Fred VanVleet
2026 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick
2027 Unprotected Phoenix Suns First Round Draft Pick
2028 Lower of Celtics/Spurs First Round Draft Pick
2029 Earliest of Suns/Rockets/Mavericks First Round Draft Pick
2029 Second Earliest of Suns/Rockets/Mavericks First Round Draft Pick
2030 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick
2032 Unprotected Boston Celtics First Round Draft Pick

7 Unprotected 1sts plus whatever they get in a follow-up Turner deal.

not that I think it's advisable to do so, but I think other teams would top this Celtics offer for Sengun


Which team though? Its tough to find

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