Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

[HartfordWhalers]

What interesting options are left to decide?

[Texas Chuck]

What interesting options are left to decide?

Josh Richardson interests me.

[VCfor3]

What interesting options are left to decide?

Not sure how much interest you have in it, but at some point in the next week Memphis has to decide if they are paying Winslow 13m next season.

[MoneyTalks41890]

What interesting options are left to decide?

Not sure how much interest you have in it, but at some point in the next week Memphis has to decide if they are paying Winslow 13m next season.

That’s one of those ripple effects items I think, like J Rich.

[eminence]

Anyone have any expectations one way or the other for Winslow/Memphis?

[HartfordWhalers]

I have JRich opting out and Winslow a coin flip, making him very interesting.
Opt out for 4/40, small haircut year 1 and 4 more years known?

[eminence]

If Winslow is a FA he'll be one of the more interesting guys on the market for me.

[Texas Chuck]

I have Winslow as a real cheap flier and he probably has to concede a TO on a 2nd year. He's simply missed too much time and even when he was "good" he wasn't that good.

[NYG]

Are Lowry and DeRozan just going to Gary Payton and Karl Malone their way to the Lakers?

[eminence]

I have Winslow as a real cheap flier and he probably has to concede a TO on a 2nd year. He's simply missed too much time and even when he was "good" he wasn't that good.

Interesting, I think I'd be fine with him on a Taxpayer MLE for either GS/Utah (assuming he passes a physical)

[eminence]

Who do you figure the best player GS could get for #14/minimum filler? 1st ideas, most teams likely sending back one of their own picks.

Kenrich Williams

House or Tate from Houston

Jevon Carter

[Pharaoh]

Didn't want to make a thread for these since I'm no cap/tax expert but:

My Pistons head into the Draft armed with 3 second round picks:

#37
#42
#52

Given what Troy Weaver and his FO have done while on the job what teams in the 2nd half of the first round might be looking to move their pick?

Obvious late targets in my mind:

Lakers #22
Clippers #25
Denver #26
Brooklyn #27
Philly #28

Those teams potentially don't want to guarantee a rookie "x" amount of money to a rookie when that money and roster spot could go to a ring chasing veteran.

Those teams could prefer 2nds to draft & stash or turn into 2 way players (side question: do 2 way players drafted in the 2nd count for cap/tax purposes?)

The Pistons could include Josh Jackson and/or Okafor's expiring deals, taking back some salary to alleviate tax issues but ideally it's picks and cash sent out only as we should be looking to preserve our 2022 cap space.

I thought:

#37 & #52 to Lakers or Clippers as they move down some for the "extra" swing and asset. Both teams much more likely to attract vet ring chasers.

Then #42 & "cash considerations" for either 26, 27 or 28 with Brooklyn most lively to attract a ring chasing vet and not want/need a rookie taking up a roster spot.

Do you think the Pistons can turn those 3 2nds into a late first (or 2)?

If yes which team is the most likely to move back given their own needs and cap situation?


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[VCfor3]

Who do you figure the best player GS could get for #14/minimum filler? 1st ideas, most teams likely sending back one of their own picks.

Kenrich Williams

House or Tate from Houston

Jevon Carter

Kyle Anderson + Utah 1st/2nds for multiple min filler guys and 14
Grayson Allen+17 for 14+min filler (would probably depend on if someone the FO likes is falling)

[ejftw]

What interesting options are left to decide?

Has Montrezl decided yet? Definitely interesting for the rumors and threads on here.

[ejftw]

Didn't want to make a thread for these since I'm no cap/tax expert but:

My Pistons head into the Draft armed with 3 second round picks:

#37
#42
#52

Given what Troy Weaver and his FO have done while on the job what teams in the 2nd half of the first round might be looking to move their pick?

Obvious late targets in my mind:

Lakers #22
Clippers #25

Spoiler:

Denver #26
Brooklyn #27
Philly #28

Those teams potentially don't want to guarantee a rookie "x" amount of money to a rookie when that money and roster spot could go to a ring chasing veteran.

Those teams could prefer 2nds to draft & stash or turn into 2 way players (side question: do 2 way players drafted in the 2nd count for cap/tax purposes?)

The Pistons could include Josh Jackson and/or Okafor's expiring deals, taking back some salary to alleviate tax issues but ideally it's picks and cash sent out only as we should be looking to preserve our 2022 cap space.

I thought:

#37 & #52 to Lakers or Clippers as they move down some for the "extra" swing and asset. Both teams much more likely to attract vet ring chasers.

Then #42 & "cash considerations" for either 26, 27 or 28 with Brooklyn most lively to attract a ring chasing vet and not want/need a rookie taking up a roster spot.

Do you think the Pistons can turn those 3 2nds into a late first (or 2)?

If yes which team is the most likely to move back given their own needs and cap situation?


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As someone who wants the Clippers to buy a second in the 40-45 range for Petrusev, the drop from 25 to 37 is worth more than #42 and #52, especially since Ballz has the capital to purchase a second and keep 25.

[eminence]

Who do you figure the best player GS could get for #14/minimum filler? 1st ideas, most teams likely sending back one of their own picks.

Kenrich Williams

House or Tate from Houston

Jevon Carter

Kyle Anderson + Utah 1st/2nds for multiple min filler guys and 14
Grayson Allen+17 for 14+min filler (would probably depend on if someone the FO likes is falling)

I'm not sure they can stack minimums high enough for Anderson, but I'd love that one (I'm not sure I'd even need the Utah pick back).

[Resistance]

Didn't want to make a thread for these since I'm no cap/tax expert but:

My Pistons head into the Draft armed with 3 second round picks:

#37
#42
#52

Given what Troy Weaver and his FO have done while on the job what teams in the 2nd half of the first round might be looking to move their pick?

Obvious late targets in my mind:

Lakers #22
Clippers #25
Denver #26
Brooklyn #27
Philly #28

Those teams potentially don't want to guarantee a rookie "x" amount of money to a rookie when that money and roster spot could go to a ring chasing veteran.

Those teams could prefer 2nds to draft & stash or turn into 2 way players (side question: do 2 way players drafted in the 2nd count for cap/tax purposes?)

The Pistons could include Josh Jackson and/or Okafor's expiring deals, taking back some salary to alleviate tax issues but ideally it's picks and cash sent out only as we should be looking to preserve our 2022 cap space.

I thought:

#37 & #52 to Lakers or Clippers as they move down some for the "extra" swing and asset. Both teams much more likely to attract vet ring chasers.

Then #42 & "cash considerations" for either 26, 27 or 28 with Brooklyn most lively to attract a ring chasing vet and not want/need a rookie taking up a roster spot.

Do you think the Pistons can turn those 3 2nds into a late first (or 2)?

If yes which team is the most likely to move back given their own needs and cap situation?


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Her is a recent example of what you are thinking about.

Kevin Porter Jr

Transactions
June 20, 2019: Drafted by the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1st round (30th pick) of the 2019 NBA Draft.

June 20, 2019: Traded by the Milwaukee Bucks with Tony Snell to the Detroit Pistons for Jon Leuer.

June 26, 2019: Traded by the Detroit Pistons to the Cleveland Cavaliers for cash, a 2020 2nd round draft pick (Justinian Jessup was later selected), a 2021 2nd round draft pick, a 2023 2nd round draft pick and a 2024 2nd round draft pick. (Pick is UTA's 2020 second-round pick) (Pick is POR's 2021 second-round pick) (Pick is POR's 2023 second-round pick) (Pick is MIA's 2024 second-round pick, top-55 protected) $5MM

July 3, 2019: Signed a multi-year contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers

January 22, 2021: Traded by the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Houston Rockets for a 2024 2nd round draft pick. 2024 2nd-rd pick is GSW own, Cleveland also received a trade exception.

March 6, 2021: Recalled from the Rio Grande Valley Vipers of the G-League.

[K_chile22]

Who do you figure the best player GS could get for #14/minimum filler? 1st ideas, most teams likely sending back one of their own picks.

Kenrich Williams

House or Tate from Houston

Jevon Carter

I'd give you both late late picks and House for 14 depending whose on the board without thinking too hard about it

[Pharaoh]

Didn't want to make a thread for these since I'm no cap/tax expert but:

My Pistons head into the Draft armed with 3 second round picks:

#37
#42
#52

Given what Troy Weaver and his FO have done while on the job what teams in the 2nd half of the first round might be looking to move their pick?

Obvious late targets in my mind:

Lakers #22
Clippers #25
Denver #26
Brooklyn #27
Philly #28

Those teams potentially don't want to guarantee a rookie "x" amount of money to a rookie when that money and roster spot could go to a ring chasing veteran.

Those teams could prefer 2nds to draft & stash or turn into 2 way players (side question: do 2 way players drafted in the 2nd count for cap/tax purposes?)

The Pistons could include Josh Jackson and/or Okafor's expiring deals, taking back some salary to alleviate tax issues but ideally it's picks and cash sent out only as we should be looking to preserve our 2022 cap space.

I thought:

#37 & #52 to Lakers or Clippers as they move down some for the "extra" swing and asset. Both teams much more likely to attract vet ring chasers.

Then #42 & "cash considerations" for either 26, 27 or 28 with Brooklyn most lively to attract a ring chasing vet and not want/need a rookie taking up a roster spot.

Do you think the Pistons can turn those 3 2nds into a late first (or 2)?

If yes which team is the most likely to move back given their own needs and cap situation?


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Her is a recent example of what you are thinking about.

Kevin Porter Jr

Transactions
June 20, 2019: Drafted by the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1st round (30th pick) of the 2019 NBA Draft.

June 20, 2019: Traded by the Milwaukee Bucks with Tony Snell to the Detroit Pistons for Jon Leuer.

June 26, 2019: Traded by the Detroit Pistons to the Cleveland Cavaliers for cash, a 2020 2nd round draft pick (Justinian Jessup was later selected), a 2021 2nd round draft pick, a 2023 2nd round draft pick and a 2024 2nd round draft pick. (Pick is UTA's 2020 second-round pick) (Pick is POR's 2021 second-round pick) (Pick is POR's 2023 second-round pick) (Pick is MIA's 2024 second-round pick, top-55 protected) $5MM

July 3, 2019: Signed a multi-year contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers

January 22, 2021: Traded by the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Houston Rockets for a 2024 2nd round draft pick. 2024 2nd-rd pick is GSW own, Cleveland also received a trade exception.

March 6, 2021: Recalled from the Rio Grande Valley Vipers of the G-League.

Yeah that's kind of a sore point for some Piston fans but it was a different FO so

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