Lakers keep Bynum + get Bosh, but break the bank! LA/TOR/NO

[VIPER8382]

Lakers Receive:
Chris Bosh (S+T 6 year max starting at about $16.4 million)
Jose Calderon
James Posey

Lakers Trade:
Lamar Odom
Ron Artest
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
Jordan Farmar (S+T @ $2.179 million + 1 PO @ $2.4 million)
2011 1st
2013 1st

Lakers Depth:
Calderon (28) / Fisher (20)
Bryant (36) / Miller (12)
Bosh (10) / Miller (20) / Posey (18)
Gasol (22) / Bosh (26) / Powell (depth)
Bynum (34) / Gasol (14) / Mbenga (depth)
*Assumptions - Brown opts out signing elsewhere, Mike Miller signed for $4-5 million a year for 3 years (up to full MLE if needed), Fisher + Powell + Mbenga retained, each for vet min.

Lakers Summary: Get Bosh without losing Bynum. It costs them a fortune, but getting Bosh for this package can't be passed up. This would also allow the Lakers to spend their MLE money on a position other than PG (as Calderon would make PG passable, he is a perfect offensive fit at least), allowing for them to add Mike Miller and his much needed lethal 3 point shooting (and all around offensive game). Subtracting Artest, Odom, Brown, and Farmar and replacing them with Bosh, Miller, Calderon, and Posey will infinitely improve the Lakers' offense by giving them legitimate outside shooting for floor spacing. The defense will drop off some, but the outside shooting alone should add at least 10 PPG, not even including Bosh's other offensive advantages.


Raptors Receive:
Darren Collison
Sasha Vujacic
Morris Peterson
Luke Walton
2011 NOH 1st
2011 LAL 1st
2013 LAL 1st

Raptors Trade:
Chris Bosh (S+T 6 year max starting at about $16.4 million)
Jose Calderon

Raptors Summary:
The Raptors get a stud PG prospect (20/10 as a rookie in games that he started) locked in on a dirt cheap deal for 3 years. They also cut Calderon's deal in half by turning him into Walton. Then they get 2 late 2011 1sts, and a late 2013 1st. Vujacic and Mo Pete are expirings. Another huge advantage is getting Bosh out West.


Hornets Receive:
Ron Artest
Lamar Odom
Jordan Farmar (S+T @ $2.179 million + 1 PO @ $2.4 million)

Hornets Trade:
Darren Collison
James Posey
Morris Peterson
2011 1st

Hornets Depth:
Paul / Farmar
Thornton / Artest / Wright
Artest / Odom / Peja
West / Odom
Okafor / #11 / Songaila

Hornets Summary: Going into this season there aren't a lot of minutes available for Collison, so the Hornets use this deal to get Artest and Odom to take them back to the upper echelon in the West. As a bonus they get to move out Posey's bad contract, which makes giving up the 2011 1st no big deal.

[48_7]

Bosh, Bynum and Gasol starting would be chaos. One of them would have to come off the bench.

[48_7]

I also don't think the Hornets do this due to the salaries of Odom and Artest.

[tidho]

That's way too much money for New Orleans to take on.
Seems like the Raptors could do better too. Collison is nice, but the rest is junk incuding the picks that basically would have no chance of being top 20.

Still, it is the Lakers, so Stern might find a way to make this work, lol.

[LApwnd]

LA is losing to much dept to gain what is essentially the most costly front court of all times. Tor def. not interested and NOH as well, they need a legit big, not a tweener nor an aging SF

[joe.linnen]

BOSH IS NO SMALL FORWARD

SF:Miller/Posey
PF:Gasol/Bosh/Powell
C:Bynum/Mbenga
SG:Bryant/Brown
PG:Calderon/Fisher

[LApwnd]

Bosh/Calderon
for
Bynum/Sasha/Walton


simple as that, we eat Jose contract, Tor eat Walton at half the price and gets another expiring.....LA salary stays above what it is now and can still add pieces with MLE, i.e. MIller/Korver, some type of shooter, with Korver can split MLE and give the rest to adding a backup big like K. Thomas.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Wow Toronto gets hammered in this deal we give up Bosh and have to take back the Hornets and Lakers crap? The Hornets turn Collison into 3 productive players and become a really well balenced team. The run with a Paul/Artest/Odom/West/Oakfor starting 5 which is pretty damn solid on the defensive end. A Paul + Artest backcourt would be nasty on the defensive end.

Cut Toronto out of this or we would take Artest + Odom for Bosh and just get Bradley at #13

[VIPER8382]

BOSH IS NO SMALL FORWARD

SF:Miller/Posey
PF:Gasol/Bosh/Powell
C:Bynum/Mbenga
SG:Bryant/Brown
PG:Calderon/Fisher

#1 Notice Bosh is only at SF for 10 minutes.
#2 Bosh has better perimeter shooting ability than our current SF, Artest.
#3 If one of Bosh, Gasol, Bynum were going to come off of the bench it would certainly not be Bosh.

Bosh can certainly play 5 minutes per half at SF with absolutely no problem for the Lakers, but trying to defend that trio will be a nightmare for opponents.

[VIPER8382]

Wow Toronto gets hammered in this deal we give up Bosh and have to take back the Hornets and Lakers crap? The Hornets turn Collison into 3 productive players and become a really well balenced team. The run with a Paul/Artest/Odom/West/Oakfor starting 5 which is pretty damn solid on the defensive end. A Paul + Artest backcourt would be nasty on the defensive end.

Cut Toronto out of this or we would take Artest + Odom for Bosh and just get Bradley at #13

#1 I don't get your perspective on this trade, maybe it is just too big for you to see what is going on, so I will break it down from Toronto's perspective.

Bosh for Collison, Mo Pete, and 3 very low 1sts (2 in 2011, 2 in 2012)
Summary - If you rate this on a normal scale it is a huge loss for Toronto, but this is a S+T here. Collison is locked in for 3 more years at a total salary of less than $5 million!!!! Collison is also coming off of a rookie season where he averaged 20/10 with very good defense in the games that he started. Collison is also very young at 22. Considering all of that I would consider him the single best return in any proposed Bosh S+T outside of the Noah deal that seems to not be realistic at all. They do have to eat Mo Pete's $6.2 million expiring, but I would say that the 3 1sts more than make up for that.

And

Calderon > Walton, Vujacic (expiring)
Summary - Calderon would be out of the rotation with Collison and Jack. The salary is almost a wash for 2010, then it is like cutting Calderon's deal almost in half for the next 2 years, and instead of having a 3rd string PG getting no minutes, they get a 2nd string SF who can at least get some minutes. This is still a downgrade because Calderon is better than Walton, but the financial advantages along with available playing time (as Calderon would see no minutes at all in this scenario) makes it nearly a wash for Toronto.

I also neglected to add that Toronto would also get a $9 million TPE.


#2 If you want to cut out NOH and just take back Artest and Odom for Bosh that would actually be even better for the Lakers, so we are all for it.

[xkirruax]

this is a no go from LA to much money for a downgrade. Bosh is better then Odom lightyears better at PF, but Odom can play everywhere giving LA many options. Onto of that we lose a lot of DEF in Artest who has made PP his man whore in the play offs add onto that we are now just getting rid of Fisher, and u want us 2 get 5 more years of a player worst then Fisher on D for twice the money Lakers Pass.

[CDM88]

were already in discussions with BC.. http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm (like the 14th paragraph down) about Bosh and the most likely of deal i know kupchack would do is

Bynum,Sasha,Farmar S&T for Bosh S&t,Jack