Minny/Kings/NJ

[demens]

Minny:
Biggest strength: PG and Forward depth
Biggest weakness: SG/Playmaking

Minny trades: Rubio, Sessions
Minny gets: Terrance Williams, Kings 1st (15-25 likely, say top10 protected)

Not sure what the general thoughts on Twill are. Nets fans sure do love him, and it seems he's getting more and more hype from fans around the league. I'm not a big fan hence why i'd like to trade him. Has his flaws (like shooting) but even i can admit he is quite a talented playmaker. He would instantly become the best playmaker for Minny by a lot and surrounded by some quality shooting they already have, i'd say it balances their roster pretty nicely since Twill fits their biggest need at their weakest position (SG). I know they value Rubio pretty high and i'm actually one of the rare non Minny fans that think he will eventually end up playing there (if not traded), but Twill and a 1st rounder is good value for him imo. Sessions is the odd man out right now after adding Ridnour, so losing him is nothing.

Kings:
Biggest strength: Front court.
Biggest weakness: PG (I think Evans is a SG at this point)

Kings trade: Landry, 1st pick (top10 protected).
Kings get: Devin Harris, Nets 2nd (30-40 likely).

They have 5 solid front court guys, 4 of them young. Thats way too many, all you really need is 3, name me 1 team that has more? I'd say losing 1 actually help them with their rotation. Even if they dont plan to keep Sammy D. they'll still have 3 left. Adding Harris balanced their roster too. Harris might not be the ideal PG next to Evans, but he CAN function off the ball even if he isn't the best shooter. Plus Harris is an pretty big upgrade over whoever they plan to start next year. I think with Devin and Cousins ready to go, they will likely make the play-offs so the 1st rounder will not be that valuable, but just to be same they can have top10 protection on it.

Nets:
Biggest strength: Perimeter depth
Biggest weakness: PF

Nets trade: Twill, Devin, 2nd rounder (30-40)
Nets get: Landry, Sessions, Rubio.

I'm a Nets fan so i dont think this needs to be explain but here it is anyway. I actually like Devin a lot and although Twill isn't my favorite i know the kid is talented. But i also know that Favors is not ready to start and throwing him into the fire can damage him and his confidence. Landry would be a solid solution as a temp starter and then after 1 year or maybe 2 would slide back into the reserve instant post scorer off the bench role which i think he is ideal for. Since Rubio is not coming till at least a year from now, Sessions is a stop gap (temp) starter at PG. Probably not winning a lot of games, but it makes sense for the team to let all that youth they have develop, and when they are all hitting their prime and hopefully ready to compete for titles, Devin would be in his 30s and out of his, so i think Rubio being so young fits better so he can grow and develop with that young core.

Thoughts?

[john2jer]

I absolutely love Terrence Williams, but I wouldn't do this trade for the Wolves. And LMAO at the Kings making the play-offs this year. That's funny.

Rubio is untouchable unless someone comes up with a ridiculously stupid good deal for the Wolves, and that's not going to happen.

[[RCG]]

You're not going to get a lot of love for this trade.

[rpa]

Don't like it for the Kings. Harris is a poor fit next to Evans and doesn't come cheap salary wise.

[Booth]

No way the Wolves do this deal. They will not trade Rubio. The wolves already have 4 Terrance Williams type players on their roster!

Johnson, Webster, Brewer, and you could add Beasley in that mix.

[Bac2Basics]

Two things that come to mind from the Sacramento end of this.....

first, I don't see them including a first round pick in a deal for at least another 2 years, or it would have to be at least indefinitely lotto protected, if they agreed to send one out before then

Second, I think if Sacramento was going to trade for a PG that's supposed to be a long term fixture as I'm assuming Harris would be, they'd likely be sending out Udrih as part of the deal.

[demens]

Two things that come to mind from the Sacramento end of this.....

first, I don't see them including a first round pick in a deal for at least another 2 years, or it would have to be at least indefinitely lotto protected, if they agreed to send one out before then

Second, I think if Sacramento was going to trade for a PG that's supposed to be a long term fixture as I'm assuming Harris would be, they'd likely be sending out Udrih as part of the deal.

Thats what the protection is for. I gave you top 10, are those 4 more picks really that important? Udrich is not a very attractive player to me, but i'm thinking it could be revised so maybe Sessions goes to Sactown and Udrich to NJ. Not sure i would actually do that but an idea that fits your criteria alittle better.

[demens]

No way the Wolves do this deal. They will not trade Rubio. The wolves already have 4 Terrance Williams type players on their roster!

Johnson, Webster, Brewer, and you could add Beasley in that mix.

Maybe if you would have read my post you would have a bit of a clue that Williams is nothing like any of those 3. Bring up Beasley has me on the verge of putting you on the ignore list.

[Bac2Basics]

Two things that come to mind from the Sacramento end of this.....

first, I don't see them including a first round pick in a deal for at least another 2 years, or it would have to be at least indefinitely lotto protected, if they agreed to send one out before then

Second, I think if Sacramento was going to trade for a PG that's supposed to be a long term fixture as I'm assuming Harris would be, they'd likely be sending out Udrih as part of the deal.

Thats what the protection is for. I gave you top 10, are those 4 more picks really that important? Udrich is not a very attractive player to me, but i'm thinking it could be revised so maybe Sessions goes to Sactown and Udrich to NJ. Not sure i would actually do that but an idea that fits your criteria alittle better.

While I like Harris, I must also share the question of my fellow Kings fans as far as concern of how Harris would fit next to Evans.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Nets trade: Twill, Devin, 2nd rounder (30-40)
Nets get: Landry, Sessions, Rubio.

I'm a Nets fan so i dont think this needs to be explain

this part was ironically funny

[Jersey Generals]

Nets need to add more value, I think. Overall, Demens, I like the Rubio idea, just don't see how it could be done.

[Esohny]

Do not want.

[demens]

Nets need to add more value, I think. Overall, Demens, I like the Rubio idea, just don't see how it could be done.

More value for which team? Kings fans seem to be more concern with fit from what i gather, although they all seem to be missing the part that the pick is protected. Wolves fans actually like Twitt, but they are extreme on Rubio. Only all-stars...hmm, sound familiar (cough Twitt cough Nets board)...

[SVThawk]

Harris is nice but I question his fit next to Evans like all Kings fans will.. Thusly we will say trading landry + a protected first is too much for a guy we don't think will fit next to Evans...

No from Kings

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah, I don't know that I like the fit for the Kings.

I think the overall value is there or very close for all teams, I don't know if I see Kahn pulling the trigger on a Rubio trade though. I think he'll be traded in a year or two when Kahn is fired...

[longfellow44]

Value wise it is ok for the kings, but Harris is a poor fit making this a bad move for the kings.

[Trader_Joe]

If anything I think Courtney Lee is an excellent fit next to Evans given his defense and shooting.

[OGSactownballer]

You probably ought to recognize that a deal that gets shot down on the Kings board is not going to find very much acceptance on the Trade board from the same fans.