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MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:13 am
by pchrys3
A deal that makes sense to me for both teams is Gilbert Arenas for Vince Carter.

Why?

Washington clears their backcourt and toxic contract of Arenas for an expiring in Vince Carter. He will help sell tickets, and clear a ton of future salary off their books.

Orlando acquires Arenas who could be their number one offensive option on a contender. If there is one team that isn't concerned about Gil's contract, it's Orlando. It opens their championship window a few more years, and could ultimately help convince Dwight to stay after his contract is up.

What do the fan bases think? I'm a Bulls fan, I realize how important it is to build around your franchise point guard (Wall).

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:20 am
by RevisIsland
Wrong forum, bro-ski.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:26 pm
by pchrys3
RevisIsland wrote:Wrong forum, bro-ski.


You mean you don't post trade proposals in the trades and transactions forum?

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:44 pm
by The Rebel
It was reported that the Magic did not want Arenas's contract

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:06 pm
by RevisIsland
pchrys3 wrote:
You mean you don't post trade proposals in the trades and transactions forum?


You do, but not the Trades and Transactions Games sub-forum.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:39 pm
by deithven
What about Arenas for Lewis ? (question to ORL and WAS fans).

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:44 pm
by no D in Hibachi
deithven wrote:What about Arenas for Lewis ? (question to ORL and WAS fans).

washington says no!

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:06 pm
by Cammo101
This is good for Orlando how? Arenas is like Carter, but smaller, with a crappier contract, and more injury prone.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:57 pm
by j-ragg
Extremely original trade idea.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:26 pm
by #1 pick
Cammo101 wrote:This is good for Orlando how? Arenas is like Carter, but smaller, with a crappier contract, and more injury prone.

VC hasn't been a legit #1 option since 06-07 when he lost his athleticism. Since when is Gilbert=VC, Gil has never played above the rim, he has always been a better offensive player than VC and still will be. All that being said, he just as good a playmaker as Nelson with a lot more scoring ability. I know Otis didn't want Gil's contract without seeing him first. I never heard that this wouldn't never happen. I wouldn't count this out if I was you. I think some ppl are more negative about a troubled player till they are proven wrong, ex. Michael Vick.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:08 am
by nate33
This trade was rumored to be on the table this summer, but Orlando wouldn't pull the trigger.

As with all Arenas trades, it's not worth discussing until Arenas proves that he is healthy and has regained some semblance of his prime form.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:13 am
by Cammo101
#1 pick wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:This is good for Orlando how? Arenas is like Carter, but smaller, with a crappier contract, and more injury prone.

VC hasn't been a legit #1 option since 06-07 when he lost his athleticism. Since when is Gilbert=VC, Gil has never played above the rim, he has always been a better offensive player than VC and still will be. All that being said, he just as good a playmaker as Nelson with a lot more scoring ability. I know Otis didn't want Gil's contract without seeing him first. I never heard that this wouldn't never happen. I wouldn't count this out if I was you. I think some ppl are more negative about a troubled player till they are proven wrong, ex. Michael Vick.


Arenas is done. It has nothing to do with him being a nutcase and everything to do with him being injury prone and unable to play at the level he once did.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:22 am
by Hoopalotta
Cammo101 wrote:Arenas is done. It has nothing to do with him being a nutcase and everything to do with him being injury prone and unable to play at the level he once did.


You make it sound like we're talking about Steve Guttenberg here.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:23 am
by Cammo101
Hoopalotta wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Arenas is done. It has nothing to do with him being a nutcase and everything to do with him being injury prone and unable to play at the level he once did.


You make it sound like we're talking about Steve Guttenberg here.


Guttenberg with a gun problem.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:27 am
by JES12
nate33 wrote:As with all Arenas trades, it's not worth discussing until Arenas proves that he is healthy and has regained some semblance of his prime form.
Same thing every year. Meanwhile, Washington had to have other players expire to get cap space while Arenas' contract keeps costing more $/yr affecting their cap worse and worse as time goes by.

Last year you had to get rid of Haywood, Butler (or Howard), Jamison (or Ilgauskas), M. James, Foye, and Oberto.

This year, it looks like it is Howard, Thornton, Young, and Jianlian.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:40 am
by nate33
JES12 wrote:
nate33 wrote:As with all Arenas trades, it's not worth discussing until Arenas proves that he is healthy and has regained some semblance of his prime form.
Same thing every year. Meanwhile, Washington had to have other players expire to get cap space while Arenas' contract keeps costing more $/yr affecting their cap worse and worse as time goes by.

Last year you had to get rid of Haywood, Butler (or Howard), Jamison (or Ilgauskas), M. James, Foye, and Oberto.

This year, it looks like it is Howard, Thornton, Young, and Jianlian.

Actually, we only had to get rid of Jamison. We had the cap room to retain everyone else. But there's no point in retaining all those vets on a rebuilding team.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:08 am
by JES12
nate33 wrote:But there's no point in retaining all those vets on a rebuilding team.
Precicely. There is no point to keeping Arenas on your team year after year after year after year after year after year after year. That is 7 years, right?

Just think...he could be gone if you include a Blatche for for Bass and/or Anderson swap.

Re: MAGIC WIZARDS BLOCKBUSTER

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:58 am
by nate33
JES12 wrote:
nate33 wrote:But there's no point in retaining all those vets on a rebuilding team.
Precicely. There is no point to keeping Arenas on your team year after year after year after year after year after year after year. That is 7 years, right?

Just think...he could be gone if you include a Blatche for for Bass and/or Anderson swap.

I'm in favor of dumping Arenas. I'm not in favor of sacrificing actual young talent (Blatche, McGee, Wall, future 1st) to make it happen. Clearly, that is not in the best interests of a rebuilding team.

I'd rather have Arenas and Blatche and $17M in cap space in 2012 (our current projection), than neither one of them and $43M in cap space. What in the world are the Wizards going to do with $43M in cap space? What free agent would join a team with Wall, McGee and nobody else of note?