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Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Mon Jan 3, 2011 7:04 pm
by AGNT190
A couple of trades that I believe would have to be considered by the teams involved, would likely to be accepted and would turn Orlando into a truely formidable team.

Trade #1 Three team trade

Orlando Gives: Jameer Nelson, Quentin Richardson
Orlando Gets: Marcus Camby

Portland Gives: Marcus Camby, Andre Miller
Portland Gets: Jameer Nelson, Quentin Richardson, Nazr Muhammed, Lottery Protected 1st rounder

Charlotte Gives: Nazr Muhammed, Lottery Protected First Rounder
Charlotte Gets: Andre Miller

Trade #2 (continuation of trade 1)

Orlando Gives: 3.5 Mil
Orlando Gets: Shaun Livingston

Charlotte Gives: Shaun Livingston
Charlotte Gets: 3.5 Mil trade exception

Trade #3

Orlando Gives: Trade Exception, 2nd round pick
Orlando Gets: Tracy Mcgrady

Detroit Gives: Tracy McGrady
Detroit Gets: ~1 million trade exception 2nd round pick.

Why it works for Portland: Portland gets the point guard they covet, a big man to replace Camby for the rest of the year, and a first round pick down the road. As well as cut 2 million from their cap this year saving them about 4 million since they are over the luxury tax. Also Nazr contract expires after this season giving them some salary cap relief next year. Throw in Q-rich to back up matthews while Roy is out and you get some more flexibility to deal Fernandez for picks/cap relief.

Why it works for Charlotte: Charlotte gets Andre Miller who they like. He can back up Augustine or can start and bring good uptempo PG play if they decide Augustin isn't ready just yet. They save 3.1 million this year in salary dropping them under the luxury tax and saving them over 5 million. They give up a future first (which should be lottery protected so it won't affect them until they make the playoffs) but if they decide to blow up the team and start from scratch they can get it back by trading either Jackson or Wallace. They rid themselves of Livingston's long term contract.

Why it works for Detriot: Detroit gets a 2nd rounder for their investment in Mcgrady this season. They aren't going anywhere this season so getting a 2nd round pick for McGrady is a large return on their risk investment.

Why it works for Orlando: Orlando gets Camby who can start at the 4 and spell Howard at the five when necessary. This improves their defense and rebounding, and shores up their front court for matchups with the lakers and celtics. They get Livingston to back up Arenas at the point (so that they still don't have to play Duhon) and McGrady, although not great, can provide some quality minutes at the 3 to spell Hedo. He can also play the 2 if they move J-rich to the 3 because of foul trouble. Best part for orlando, is it doesn't cost them JJ, Anderson or bass. Pieces they can use if necessary down the road.

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Mon Jan 3, 2011 8:46 pm
by DusterBuster
I really think the availability of Nelson is GREATLY exaggerated here on RealGM.

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Mon Jan 3, 2011 9:09 pm
by mcfly1204
The second and third trades do not really help Orlando, and I do not think Camby is enough for Nelson.

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:08 pm
by trebone
orlando already has 4 pgs now if you move nelson we really have no reason to bring in livingston as he is playing very poorly and would likely not get ahead of jason williams, and as a matter of fact I doubt we trade our former allstar starting pg for a backup center who will probably not play more than 15min a game anyway

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:17 pm
by Norm2953
Going to have to offer up more for Portland to move Camby who is playing at a high
level, grabbing up to 20 RB's per night. Got to pay if you believe Orlando will be
competing with the Heat in the playoffs for Portland has Camby signed for next
season and does not have to deal him.

The 2011 draft is going to be the worst in recent history and Portland already has
2 #1 picks.

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:25 pm
by Cammo101
A) Orlando is already a contender.
B) Jameer is not being traded.
C) No chance Orlando takes on a contract as big as Camby's to play 12 minutes backing up Dwight.
D) Sean Livingston is made of glass.

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:41 pm
by tiderulz
Norm2953 wrote:Going to have to offer up more for Portland to move Camby who is playing at a high
level, grabbing up to 20 RB's per night. Got to pay if you believe Orlando will be
competing with the Heat in the playoffs for Portland has Camby signed for next
season and does not have to deal him.

The 2011 draft is going to be the worst in recent history and Portland already has
2 #1 picks.


lets not go crazy. He pulled down 20 rebs in 2 games all year, he isnt doing that every night. And agreed that Portland has Camby signed, for $9.2 mil next year at age 37, not exactly something you build with. Getting a PG would allow Portland to rebuild their big depth (hopefully no one with the injury history of Pryz or Oden)

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:43 pm
by tiderulz
Cammo101 wrote:A) Orlando is already a contender.
B) Jameer is not being traded.
C) No chance Orlando takes on a contract as big as Camby's to play 12 minutes backing up Dwight.
D) Sean Livingston is made of glass.


well, I would see Camby getting more than 12 minutes, sometimes with him and Dwight as twin towers.
And it would allow Dwight to get a bit more rest, or when he goes bat-$@#$ crazy at times and picks up fouls so quickly.

Re: Making Orlando A Contender...The Camby Man Cometh

Posted: Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:14 pm
by MitchSlapped
A trade that I've come up with is Nelson, Redick, Duhon and Clark/Allen for Camby, Miller and Fernandez. I think its more fair for Nelson. Or Arenas for Miller and Camby straight up works.