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SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:33 am
by ChrisTheFuturePaul
Beasley for Thornton (S&T ~5.5mil)
Cousins / Thompson
Beasley / Hickson
Salmons / Beasley
Evans / Garcia
Jimmer / Evans
Darko / Tolliver
Love / Randolph
W Johnson / D Williams
Thornton / Webster
Rubio / Ridnour
Could be an improvement for both teams? Does it put too many "questionable characters" in the Kings?
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:44 am
by Blkbrd671
Reke, DMC,Beasley and Whiteside on same team. Sounds like a freakin frat house party
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:53 am
by ChrisTheFuturePaul
Hey maybe Beasley's weed habit will rub off on DMC and he'll mellow out a little?
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:09 am
by Blkbrd671
dude he's in SAC, i'm sure beasley's going there for the weed. at least i know where to get my bud at, Kings games. ha ha
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:29 am
by orangeparka
Blkbrd671 wrote:Reke, DMC,Beasley and Whiteside on same team. Sounds like a freakin frat house party

Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:58 am
by LavinMagoof
The Kings have the SF position covered, so Marcus stays.
Blkbrd671 wrote:dude he's in SAC, i'm sure beasley's going there for the weed. at least i know where to get my bud at, Kings games. ha ha
lol what's up Brad Miller
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:45 pm
by shrink
ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:Beasley for Thornton (S&T ~5.5mil)
Cousins / Thompson
Beasley / Hickson
Salmons / Beasley
Evans / Garcia
Jimmer / Evans
Darko / Tolliver
Love / Randolph
W Johnson / D Williams
Thornton / Webster
Rubio / Ridnour
I like those roster fits
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:39 pm
by jballer_13
Don't like the fit for Sac.... Jimmer/Tyreke/Beas/DeMarcus could be a nightmare. All young guys who need the ball and likely want to feel like the #1 option.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:56 am
by Vindicater
Thornton will come crashing down to earth with Tyreke next to him this season.
No thankyou. not at that much money.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:17 pm
by The Beam King
Kings pass. Thornton 3 point shooting is far more valuable than Beasley's 'scoring prowess' would be. I think the value is on par with the fit being atrocious.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:24 pm
by [RCG]
BOOGIE-MONSTER wrote:Kings pass. Thornton 3 point shooting is far more valuable than Beasley's 'scoring prowess' would be. I think the value is on par with the fit being atrocious.
Um... Beasley and Thornton shot the same % from 3pt.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:08 pm
by KF10
Vindicater wrote:Thornton will come crashing down to earth with Tyreke next to him this season.
No thankyou. not at that much money.
LOL
Evans and Thornton were fine together. In the last 12 games (when Evans returned), the team was 6-5. Evans averaged 6 assists per game despite both Cousins and Thornton having the ball more than him.
As for the trade, no thanks.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:52 pm
by rpa
[RCG] wrote:Um... Beasley and Thornton shot the same % from 3pt.
Percentages were pretty much the same but Thornton averaged nearly twice as many attempts per game as Beasley. Generally percentage goes down as attempts go up.
That said, I wouldn't do this as a Kings fan. Beasley may be a worse fit than Salmons (albeit a better player) at the 3 whereas Thornton seems almost perfect next to Tyreke.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:00 pm
by [RCG]
rpa wrote:[RCG] wrote:Um... Beasley and Thornton shot the same % from 3pt.
Percentages were pretty much the same but Thornton averaged nearly twice as many attempts per game as Beasley. Generally percentage goes down as attempts go up.
Yet Beasley shot more 3s this past year and made a higher % compared to the year before and Thornton shot less 3s this past year and made a lower % compared to the year before. Funny.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:54 pm
by LoyalKing
I'd rather keep Thornton
They only thing i don't want is the Kings resigning Dally. He is just waiting for the big check to become a lazy ass again like in Philly
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Mon Aug 1, 2011 1:52 am
by The Beam King
[RCG] wrote:rpa wrote:[RCG] wrote:Um... Beasley and Thornton shot the same % from 3pt.
Percentages were pretty much the same but Thornton averaged nearly twice as many attempts per game as Beasley. Generally percentage goes down as attempts go up.
Yet Beasley shot more 3s this past year and made a higher % compared to the year before and Thornton shot less 3s this past year and made a lower % compared to the year before. Funny.
You're using .7% to make this argument(not even being a relevant nor valid one at that as I'll show you below) while being an overall worse 3 point shooter over their careers? Thronton shot 37.4% from downtown last year. And shot 36.7% this past year.
Beasley shot 27.5% and jumped up to the respectable 36.6%.
Even though Beasley's been in the league an extra year their career 3 point totals are:
Beasley - 121/347 = 34.9%
Thornton - 205/553 = 36.7%
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Mon Aug 1, 2011 4:35 am
by SacKingZZZ
Odds are as you shoot more 3's your % will drop so the fact that Thornton had more attempts and shot a higher percentage is very indicative in this circumstance.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Mon Aug 1, 2011 4:36 am
by SacKingZZZ
Talent wise it's not bad, but Kings say no for fit reasons alone.
Re: SAC / MIN
Posted: Mon Aug 1, 2011 4:52 am
by shrink
rpa wrote: Generally percentage goes down as attempts go up.
SacKingZZZ wrote:Odds are as you shoot more 3's your % will drop so the fact that Thornton had more attempts and shot a higher percentage is very indicative in this circumstance.
What odds are those? Can you calculate them for me?
And if I miss my first shot, does that mean my 3P% will drop as my sample size increases and I shoot more?
What kind of math are they teaching you in guys in California?