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I just don't know what his value is right now. Everyone knows what he can do... a decent post scorer and very good rebounder with some weaknesses on defense. Had some behavioral/character problems early in his career, but has been a model citizen in Memphis.

I can't really think of any good fits... anyone who might be interested seems to have their eyes on 2014 cap space, which his big contract would prevent... but Memphis clearly needs to get younger and faster, and that starts with moving him and Prince.

Maybe Tayshaun/Zach for Eric Gordon/Ryan Anderson deal could work?

...c.a.p... wrote:Maybe Tayshaun/Zach for Eric Gordon/Ryan Anderson deal could work?

Well hell i'd do that in a heartbeat. Sounds too good for Z and Tay though.

darkangle901 wrote:

...c.a.p... wrote:Maybe Tayshaun/Zach for Eric Gordon/Ryan Anderson deal could work?

Well hell i'd do that in a heartbeat. Sounds too good for Z and Tay though.

I'm sure the Griz would have to throw in incentive for this deal to happen.

darkangle901 wrote:

...c.a.p... wrote:Maybe Tayshaun/Zach for Eric Gordon/Ryan Anderson deal could work?

Well hell i'd do that in a heartbeat. Sounds too good for Z and Tay though.

Even at this point Eric Gordon has more value than Zbo.
Swapping Ryan Anderson for Tay would just be an insult to the Hornets.

Randolph + Prince for Bosh + Miller makes the most sense for both ball clubs.

Kupchak9 wrote:Randolph + Prince for Bosh + Miller makes the most sense for both ball clubs.

I love what Z-Bo has done recently but disappearing in the playoffs along with his lack of D make him a terrible fit for Miami. On the other hand, Bosh has shown up on both ends in the playoffs the last 2 years so Miami wouldn't entertain that for a second. I think Denver is an excellent fit but I doubt they're interested. OKC is another great fit but doubt either team wants to help the other and Mem won't swallow Perk. There aren't many suitors for him IMO, partially because of his contract and mostly because of the abundance of above average PFs in the league.

I_Socrates wrote:

Kupchak9 wrote:Randolph + Prince for Bosh + Miller makes the most sense for both ball clubs.

I love what Z-Bo has done recently but disappearing in the playoffs along with his lack of D make him a terrible fit for Miami. On the other hand, Bosh has shown up on both ends in the playoffs the last 2 years so Miami wouldn't entertain that for a second. I think Denver is an excellent fit but I doubt they're interested. OKC is another great fit but doubt either team wants to help the other and Mem won't swallow Perk. There aren't many suitors for him IMO, partially because of his contract and mostly because of the abundance of above average PFs in the league.

Can ZBo play Center? He's 6'9 and 260 pounds I think he has the strength to play at the 5. Denver could really use someone like him there.

At the same time, the Griz really need a shooter.

I_Socrates wrote:

Kupchak9 wrote:Randolph + Prince for Bosh + Miller makes the most sense for both ball clubs.

I love what Z-Bo has done recently but disappearing in the playoffs along with his lack of D make him a terrible fit for Miami. On the other hand, Bosh has shown up on both ends in the playoffs the last 2 years so Miami wouldn't entertain that for a second. I think Denver is an excellent fit but I doubt they're interested. OKC is another great fit but doubt either team wants to help the other and Mem won't swallow Perk. There aren't many suitors for him IMO, partially because of his contract and mostly because of the abundance of above average PFs in the league.

I don't think it's fair to say ZBo disappeared in the playoffs. He was actually pretty fantastic against the Thunder, and pretty good against the Clippers. The spurs shut him down, but that was much more of a team failing than a ZBo specific one - they decided not to honor memphis' shooters in order to clog the lane and our shooters proved them right...

If anything, ZBo has played better in the playoffs than the regular season every year he's been to the playoffs with memphis.

He is, it appears, in slight decline but, again, he played better last eyar than the one before, so it's ahrd to know how much of that was just him rehabbing an injury and how much of it was actually age. On paper you'd think he would age pretty well, since he's never had much athleticism to loose.

Any realistic trade the Griz could make using ZBo is going to leave them worse off talent-wise, because no one is going to give equal talent for an aging player and the griz can't afford to take on bad salary. The only real exception I can imagine is trading ZBo for Gasol the elder, which might (might) make them a better team.

Since the griz are in win-now mode at elast until they show they're not even a fringe contender, it would be very, very tricky to make a ZBo trade that doesn't slam their window shut. I think they hold onto him for at least one more season unless they struggle out of the gate this year.

Prospect Dong wrote:

I_Socrates wrote:

Kupchak9 wrote:Randolph + Prince for Bosh + Miller makes the most sense for both ball clubs.

I love what Z-Bo has done recently but disappearing in the playoffs along with his lack of D make him a terrible fit for Miami. On the other hand, Bosh has shown up on both ends in the playoffs the last 2 years so Miami wouldn't entertain that for a second. I think Denver is an excellent fit but I doubt they're interested. OKC is another great fit but doubt either team wants to help the other and Mem won't swallow Perk. There aren't many suitors for him IMO, partially because of his contract and mostly because of the abundance of above average PFs in the league.

I don't think it's fair to say ZBo disappeared in the playoffs. He was actually pretty fantastic against the Thunder, and pretty good against the Clippers. The spurs shut him down, but that was much more of a team failing than a ZBo specific one - they decided not to honor memphis' shooters in order to clog the lane and our shooters proved them right...

If anything, ZBo has played better in the playoffs than the regular season every year he's been to the playoffs with memphis.

He is, it appears, in slight decline but, again, he played better last eyar than the one before, so it's ahrd to know how much of that was just him rehabbing an injury and how much of it was actually age. On paper you'd think he would age pretty well, since he's never had much athleticism to loose.

Any realistic trade the Griz could make using ZBo is going to leave them worse off talent-wise, because no one is going to give equal talent for an aging player and the griz can't afford to take on bad salary. The only real exception I can imagine is trading ZBo for Gasol the elder, which might (might) make them a better team.

Since the griz are in win-now mode at elast until they show they're not even a fringe contender, it would be very, very tricky to make a ZBo trade that doesn't slam their window shut. I think they hold onto him for at least one more season unless they struggle out of the gate this year.

A Gasol pairing would be great for Memphis and the NBA.


LAL in: McGee
MEM in: Gasol
DEN in: ZBo

Aren't the lakers gunning for cap space next summer?

I'd offer something based on Lee and sweeteners (not Klay or Barnes) for him.

gswhoops wrote:I'd offer something based on Lee and sweeteners (not Klay or Barnes) for him.

That could be interesting.

HartfordWhalers wrote:

gswhoops wrote:I'd offer something based on Lee and sweeteners (not Klay or Barnes) for him.

That could be interesting.

I think so too. Their skill sets are a better fit for each other's teams, IMO. Lee's high post/midrange game would help open things up down low in Memphis, and Z-Bo's low post scoring would provide a lot of open looks for GS' shooters.

gswhoops wrote:

HartfordWhalers wrote:

gswhoops wrote:I'd offer something based on Lee and sweeteners (not Klay or Barnes) for him.

That could be interesting.

I think so too. Their skill sets are a better fit for each other's teams, IMO. Lee's high post/midrange game would help open things up down low in Memphis, and Z-Bo's low post scoring would provide a lot of open looks for GS' shooters.

Let's talk sweeteners... Since you explicitly took Klay and Barnes off the table I assume that means you'd be ok with something around Curry

But seriously, who else does GS have? Ezeli and Green I guess, neither of whom really excite me. Who am I forgetting? There's not much scope to trade picks after the Jazz deal, and memphis doesn't really have any bad contracts (yet).

^^ Yeah, we don't really have much to offer unfortunately. And I assumed it went without saying that Curry was off the table

Kupchak9 wrote:

I_Socrates wrote:

Kupchak9 wrote:Randolph + Prince for Bosh + Miller makes the most sense for both ball clubs.

I love what Z-Bo has done recently but disappearing in the playoffs along with his lack of D make him a terrible fit for Miami. On the other hand, Bosh has shown up on both ends in the playoffs the last 2 years so Miami wouldn't entertain that for a second. I think Denver is an excellent fit but I doubt they're interested. OKC is another great fit but doubt either team wants to help the other and Mem won't swallow Perk. There aren't many suitors for him IMO, partially because of his contract and mostly because of the abundance of above average PFs in the league.

Can ZBo play Center? He's 6'9 and 260 pounds I think he has the strength to play at the 5. Denver could really use someone like him there.

At the same time, the Griz really need a shooter.

Last I checked the Nuggets still plan on playing fast, which means defense and being in shape is a very important part of being a fit on the team, neither of which fits ZBO making him a terrible fit for the Nuggets.

Kupchak9 wrote:

Prospect Dong wrote:

I_Socrates wrote:
I love what Z-Bo has done recently but disappearing in the playoffs along with his lack of D make him a terrible fit for Miami. On the other hand, Bosh has shown up on both ends in the playoffs the last 2 years so Miami wouldn't entertain that for a second. I think Denver is an excellent fit but I doubt they're interested. OKC is another great fit but doubt either team wants to help the other and Mem won't swallow Perk. There aren't many suitors for him IMO, partially because of his contract and mostly because of the abundance of above average PFs in the league.

I don't think it's fair to say ZBo disappeared in the playoffs. He was actually pretty fantastic against the Thunder, and pretty good against the Clippers. The spurs shut him down, but that was much more of a team failing than a ZBo specific one - they decided not to honor memphis' shooters in order to clog the lane and our shooters proved them right...

If anything, ZBo has played better in the playoffs than the regular season every year he's been to the playoffs with memphis.

He is, it appears, in slight decline but, again, he played better last eyar than the one before, so it's ahrd to know how much of that was just him rehabbing an injury and how much of it was actually age. On paper you'd think he would age pretty well, since he's never had much athleticism to loose.

Any realistic trade the Griz could make using ZBo is going to leave them worse off talent-wise, because no one is going to give equal talent for an aging player and the griz can't afford to take on bad salary. The only real exception I can imagine is trading ZBo for Gasol the elder, which might (might) make them a better team.

Since the griz are in win-now mode at elast until they show they're not even a fringe contender, it would be very, very tricky to make a ZBo trade that doesn't slam their window shut. I think they hold onto him for at least one more season unless they struggle out of the gate this year.

A Gasol pairing would be great for Memphis and the NBA.


LAL in: McGee
MEM in: Gasol
DEN in: ZBo

Lakers won't take on 2014 salary, Kobe won't allow them to tank. No man's land lol.

darkangle901 wrote:I just don't know what his value is right now. Everyone knows what he can do... a decent post scorer and very good rebounder with some weaknesses on defense. Had some behavioral/character problems early in his career, but has been a model citizen in Memphis.

I can't really think of any good fits... anyone who might be interested seems to have their eyes on 2014 cap space, which his big contract would prevent... but Memphis clearly needs to get younger and faster, and that starts with moving him and Prince.

ZBo to GS
Lee and Henderson to MEM
Turner and JRich to CHA
Prince and Davis to PHI

I don't know if that quite works but we're heading in the right direction lol

Boozer plus cats pick?