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Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:56 pm
by Hawk Eye
Chuck Texas Review

Key Losses:

Truth -- this one really hurts

Other losses:

Rasual Butler
Kevin Seraphin

Draft:

Kelly Oubre Jr
Aaron White

I'm not a huge fan of Oubre, but I think they knew they risked losing Pierce

Trades:

Moved up to take Oubre-- again they had a plan and executed it which is good.   Got Dudley for nothing which was a smart pickup.

Free Agency:

Alan Anderson
Drew Gooden
Gary Neal

They bargain shopped and got some useful players.   Feels like an overpay for Gooden, but its one year so whatever.

Current Depth Chart (this is really rough):

Marcin Gortat/Kris Humphries/DeJuan Blair
Nene/Drew Gooden/ 
Otto Porter Jr/Jared Dudley/Kelly Oubre/Martell Webster
Bradley Beal/Alan Anderson/Garrett Temple
John Wall/Ramon Sessions

Needs:  

Another big man.  Nene is probably the real back-up center but other than that its undersized guys and Blair couldn't get off the bench last year.   Another PG.   Maybe the return of Dre?   Would also like to see an athletic young big to pair with Wall.

Added Thoughts:

I think Truth is a major major loss.   I think they can replace most of what he brought on the court, tho they will miss some of his shot creation.   But his leadership and confidence and veteran savvy is a big hole.   I love John Wall but he needs more help.  They really need Oubre to be ready to give minutes so they can play small a lot.  I think their best chance of winning is to play Gortat, Wall and three wings together as much as possible.   And Beal has to be a consistent go-to guy for them all year.   Season rests on his shoulders as much as anyones.

Win/loss Prediction:  43-39

This team takes a step back this year.  I would like to see them find a way to add another key piece while maintaining flexibility for KD.   He's been the plan for years now but does he see enough already in place?

Off-Season Grade: C-

Losing Truth is a huge blow and the additions of Dudley/Anderson doesn't make up for it.   

PMOTT3 Review

Key Losses:

Paul Pierce- Yea this one will sting, especially in late game moments.

Other Losses:

Kevin Seraphin, Rasual Butler

Draft:

Kelly Oubre Jr.
Aaron White

I loved the decision to take Oubre. It only cost the wiz two 2nds to move up from #19 to #15 so i see it as a low risk/high reward move. Its too early to tell if he will develop but i see the potential. He's had some good spurts in SL as well.

Trades:

#19, 16' 2nd, and 19' 2nd for Kelly Oubre Jr.

future (protected?) 2nd for Jared Dudley

I dont like that they have traded away three 2nd round picks in one off-season but I'd trade a 2nd anyday over a 1st. I like the addition of Dudley. Cost them next to nothing and he's a high IQ role player. I loved the trade up for Oubre. He was seen as a late lotto pick anywhere from #10-#14 in most mocks so to be able to grab him at #15 for the cost of two 2nds is a gamble I'd take almost every time.

Free Agency:

Alan Anderson
Drew Gooden
Gary Neal

I agree with CT that they bargain shopped but i see it working out well for them. Anderson and Dudley will probably have the biggest impact for the wizards this season more than any other addition they've made this off-season. Neal is too hit and miss for my liking but with a PG like Wall i suspect he'll be getting some good looks for his shots. And most importantly of all, they've been able to bring in all these role players off the bench for this season without cutting into the cap space for next season. I wonder which player they have their eyes set on next free agency? :wink:

Current Depth Chart:

PG: John Wall/Ramon Sessions
SG: Bradley Beal/Alan Anderson/Garnett Temple
SF: Otto Porter Jr./Jared Dudley/Kelly Oubre Jr./Martell Webster
PF: Nene/Drew Gooden/Dejuan Blair
C: Marcin Gortat/Kris Humphries

Needs:

Despite Randy Wittless actually adapting in the PO last season and running some good small ball lineups, i still want to see them get a new HC. His good moments in the playoffs last year doesn't make up for all the bad ones during their 82 game season imo. They need a coach who emphasizes the 3 ball and not consistently taking long 2's. Plus there's no returning from that clip board vine, there just isnt. I'll cut Randy some slack though if he actually adapts.

For the most part i agree with CT here though. Their big man depth lacks height/size and I'd like to see them add 1 more stretch 4. They need another ball handler so adding a young PG to develop or a second vet PG would make a lot of sense.

Added Thoughts:

I'm probably in the minority here but I'm predicting a big season from Washington despite losing Pierce. Bradley Beal really emerged in the playoffs last season and had some huge games against my hawks in the 2nd round (which was even more impressive in the absence of Wall). He's ready and I think he takes the leap this year and becomes a top 2-3 SG. The loss of PP is obviously going to hurt a lot and no role player will be able to match his production; especially not his clutchness. But Pierce didn't really go into god mode until the playoffs started. So i see his absence being more missed in the playoffs when nearly every game is down to the wire. Making sure all of their additions didnt cut into the cap space they're using for next years "KD2DC" campaign was smart. This team will definitely make the playoffs and i see them fighting for a top 3-4 seed and HCA in round 1.

Win/Loss Prediction: 50-32

Wall and Beal become the best back court in the East. I am hoping Randy adapts to more small ball lineups and uses Nene as back up center. Like i said, i have a feeling I'll end up in the minority on this one.

Overall Grade: C+

Losing Paul Pierce is definitely going to sting but as i said before, i think his absence will be most missed in the playoffs vs the regular season. I liked that they were able to bring in solid role players AND preserve cap space for next season at the same time. Oubre is a "?" for now but it was a low-cost gamble to take. Getting Dudley for a bag of chips was another good move. Not an exciting off-season but definitely not a bad one.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:32 pm
by TrillSimmons
Losing Paul Pierce was going to be big, but they made some moves which I think offset it. Jared Dudley was a solid pick up and Alan Anderson had some moments for the Nets last year. Their depth is better this year, and this also gives Wall and Beal the chance to take over close games in the playoffs. Whether they can do it or not is a whole other story tho...

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:41 pm
by Laimbeer
I like the Oubre deal and smaller acquisitions. The Truth hurts, but I think we're overestimating what he brings as he gets another year older. B-

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:24 pm
by jazzfan1971
Seem about the same as last year to me. I would anticipate about the same record if they have a similar amount of health.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:40 pm
by dckingsfan
Wittman learned a valuable lesson in the playoffs - S4s help. So did Humphries - don't shoot the 3, don't play. So, look for the following rotation. There was plenty of talk in the off-season about Nene moving to backup C. It would be nice to have Humphries play with Nene for rebounding purposes - but it should be fine.

PG: John Wall/Ramon Sessions
SG: Bradley Beal/Alan Anderson/Garnett Temple
SF: Otto Porter Jr./Jared Dudley/Kelly Oubre Jr./Martell Webster
PF: Kris Humphries/Drew Gooden/
C: Marcin Gortat/Nene/Dejuan Blair

If Beal + Porter continue to improve and if Humphries adds the 3 ball. Then I think we improve again in the win column. 44, 46 for the last two years. Maybe 48 this year. Also, Sessions has done a pretty good job here. And that is a big improvement over starting the season with Maynor and Miller.

Grade: B - they will be in the mix for the playoffs and keep the KD2DC mantra alive. Although I see KD2DC as a long-shot, it is a plan and that is a huge step forward for our knucklehead GM.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:59 pm
by bondom34
I really liked a lot of what they did this offseason. I think the Pierce loss hurts but I'm thinking they learned enough from him as a mentor last year that the young guys should be fine. The biggest hole for me is that they really lack youth amongst the big men, and are kinda shallow at the backup guard spots (they have guys, but they're really just....well guys). They should remain a stout defense and I'd think a playoff berth for sure, I would go in the B range here too.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:17 pm
by Trader_Joe
dckingsfan wrote:Wittman learned a valuable lesson in the playoffs - S4s help. So did Humphries - don't shoot the 3, don't play. So, look for the following rotation. There was plenty of talk in the off-season about Nene moving to backup C. It would be nice to have Humphries play with Nene for rebounding purposes - but it should be fine.

PG: John Wall/Ramon Sessions
SG: Bradley Beal/Alan Anderson/Garnett Temple
SF: Otto Porter Jr./Jared Dudley/Kelly Oubre Jr./Martell Webster
PF: Kris Humphries/Drew Gooden/
C: Marcin Gortat/Nene/Dejuan Blair

If Beal + Porter continue to improve and if Humphries adds the 3 ball. Then I think we improve again in the win column. 44, 46 for the last two years. Maybe 48 this year. Also, Sessions has done a pretty good job here. And that is a big improvement over starting the season with Maynor and Miller.

Grade: B - they will be in the mix for the playoffs and keep the KD2DC mantra alive. Although I see KD2DC as a long-shot, it is a plan and that is a huge step forward for our knucklehead GM.

Humphries shooting the 3 doesn't seem very likely.
He was streaky enough from mid range.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:20 pm
by Trader_Joe
Overall I liked their draft of Oubre and the additions of Anderson and Dudley on the wings.. where they almost have too much depth.
Perhaps we see Porter playing some PF? Otherwise, I think they should consolidate some of their wings for a PF with range while keeping options open for 2016.

Losing PP is a blow, but they should be fine.

I give them a B-

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:45 pm
by dckingsfan
Trader_Joe wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Wittman learned a valuable lesson in the playoffs - S4s help. So did Humphries - don't shoot the 3, don't play. So, look for the following rotation. There was plenty of talk in the off-season about Nene moving to backup C. It would be nice to have Humphries play with Nene for rebounding purposes - but it should be fine.

PG: John Wall/Ramon Sessions
SG: Bradley Beal/Alan Anderson/Garnett Temple
SF: Otto Porter Jr./Jared Dudley/Kelly Oubre Jr./Martell Webster
PF: Kris Humphries/Drew Gooden/
C: Marcin Gortat/Nene/Dejuan Blair

If Beal + Porter continue to improve and if Humphries adds the 3 ball. Then I think we improve again in the win column. 44, 46 for the last two years. Maybe 48 this year. Also, Sessions has done a pretty good job here. And that is a big improvement over starting the season with Maynor and Miller.

Grade: B - they will be in the mix for the playoffs and keep the KD2DC mantra alive. Although I see KD2DC as a long-shot, it is a plan and that is a huge step forward for our knucklehead GM.

Humphries shooting the 3 doesn't seem very likely.
He was streaky enough from mid range.


.430 from 16 <3, so, very solid. My guess is he will be +.350 from 3 next year.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:47 pm
by Austincys21
If Otto Porter can jump and improve into discussion as MIP player, i can see them as a top 3 east team if healthy.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:49 pm
by Trader_Joe
dckingsfan wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Wittman learned a valuable lesson in the playoffs - S4s help. So did Humphries - don't shoot the 3, don't play. So, look for the following rotation. There was plenty of talk in the off-season about Nene moving to backup C. It would be nice to have Humphries play with Nene for rebounding purposes - but it should be fine.

PG: John Wall/Ramon Sessions
SG: Bradley Beal/Alan Anderson/Garnett Temple
SF: Otto Porter Jr./Jared Dudley/Kelly Oubre Jr./Martell Webster
PF: Kris Humphries/Drew Gooden/
C: Marcin Gortat/Nene/Dejuan Blair

If Beal + Porter continue to improve and if Humphries adds the 3 ball. Then I think we improve again in the win column. 44, 46 for the last two years. Maybe 48 this year. Also, Sessions has done a pretty good job here. And that is a big improvement over starting the season with Maynor and Miller.

Grade: B - they will be in the mix for the playoffs and keep the KD2DC mantra alive. Although I see KD2DC as a long-shot, it is a plan and that is a huge step forward for our knucklehead GM.

Humphries shooting the 3 doesn't seem very likely.
He was streaky enough from mid range.


.430 from 16 <3, so, very solid. My guess is he will be +.350 from 3 next year.

He was 0-7 from 3 last year.
Since his rookie year he is 0-20 (2-6 his rookie year making him an 8% career 3 point shooter.)

He is not going to be a three point shooter. He is ok from midrange, but I would rather he simply try to finish inside and dunk.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:30 pm
by dckingsfan
Hey Trader_Joe, let's do an over/under on the number of 3s he takes this year.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:33 pm
by penbeast0
I would guess the Dudley/Porter forward rotation gets some early burn; if it works, Wittman will probably go with it. As for firing Wittman, I like the fact that he has the team playing good defense (which to me is the main area a coach affects). I think the long term problem has been Ernie Grunfeld rather than Wittman; bring in a new analytics friendly GM and let him make the coaching decision.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:25 am
by Hawk Eye
Trader_Joe wrote:Overall I liked their draft of Oubre and the additions of Anderson and Dudley on the wings.. where they almost have too much depth.
Perhaps we see Porter playing some PF? Otherwise, I think they should consolidate some of their wings for a PF with range while keeping options open for 2016.

Losing PP is a blow, but they should be fine.

I give them a B-


If Oubre is able to crack his way into the rotation how would you feel about a Porter for Rhyno swap? Rhyno is an expiring this year and i feel he decreased his value last season (may have upped it from his performances in the playoffs though). Would give the wiz a true stretch 4 and I feel Wall would do better with the added space he has to create. Not sure if i can trust a Dudley/Oubre combo on the wings though.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:12 am
by loserX
Losing Pierce's swagger is indeed a real loss.

I don't really know what to think of Oubre but I know a lot of people like him, and the Wiz sure seemed to get him on the cheap. I liked all of their FA signings too...they haven't had a lot of flexibility lately but they've made some shrewd little moves to fill in around the edges while they wait for the Summer of Durant. They didn't take a lot of big chances, but this wasn't the year for that anyway. As far as inching forward I think they did okay. Will be interesting to see if they can build on last year. (Either way, they are going to need to add some youth in the 4/5 spots, and soon.)

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:24 am
by bondom34
Wow, I'm looking at the grades and dreading seeing OKC's....

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:44 am
by MadNESS
IMO - This offseason was a blessing in disguise for the Wizards. They should have never signed Pierce to begin with. They HAVE to let Otto Porter Jr. play. This kid was the third over all pick, he was just showing some flashes / signs that he can actually play in the NBA. Now, give him the keys and let him go to work. Dudley is a nice back up for him, and a guy that can really play.

Beal will progress just fine, but again, Peirce was taking shots out of his hands.

The Wizards need to focus on the future (Wall / Beal / Porter), and not right now (Cavaliers / Heat / Bulls / Etc.)

Letting Beal be the go to guy will only help him GROW.

Maybe I am crazy, but this is what I think. :lol:

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:50 am
by Hawk Eye
bondom34 wrote:Wow, I'm looking at the grades and dreading seeing OKC's....


What part are you dreading? I loved the Payne pick and while i don't love the max given to Kanter i understand it was a must-do type of situation. The only thing i have actually really hated about OKC's off-season is firing Brooks and hiring a new coach in KD's contract year. Its just too risky and it feels like a decision they should have made about 2 years ago.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:52 am
by bondom34
PMOTT3 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Wow, I'm looking at the grades and dreading seeing OKC's....


What part are you dreading? I loved the Payne pick and while i don't love the max given to Kanter i understand it was a must-do type of situation. The only thing i have actually really hated about OKC's off-season is firing Brooks and hiring a new coach in KD's contract year. Its just too risky and it feels like a decision they should have made about 2 years ago.

I'm looking at the poll, trying to figure out how Wahington was a D to someone. :lol:

Maybe I'm just hearing a ton of Kanter criticism in Thunder circles, sorry to derail here.

But on point, I sorta agree with Ness, I think Pierce was a great guy to learn from but now is time for the youth to grow.

Re: Chuck Texas & PMOTT3's Early Off-Season Review: Washington Wizards

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:04 am
by Hawk Eye
Yea i have no idea how someone could justify giving them a D. Its not like they just lost 2008 Paul Pierce :lol:

I also feel like Otto is going to step it up as well this season but im expecting the real leap to come from Beal.