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We're at the quarter-point of the season...still a long way to go, but we should have a clearer picture of team strengths and weaknesses for the time being!

How is your team doing relative to expectations? Although it's early, do you look like a buyer or a seller?

Most importantly: What are your team needs? What sorts of players are you looking for to fill them?

and

What assets are you making available? What trade value are you expecting in return?

TEAM LIST
Atlanta -
Boston - Wants: rim protection, consistent wing scoring. Offers: boatload of picks, most players.
Brooklyn - Wants: perimeter shooting. Offers: sizable expirings with the initials JJ.
Charlotte - Wants: interior D, defensive wing stopper. Offers: Hairston, Hawes, possibly Zeller/Marvin/picks.
Chicago -
Cleveland - Wants: health, time. Offers: likely to stand pat.
Dallas - Wants: extra bodies up front and on the wing. Offers: Justin Anderson, 2nd rounders.
Denver - Wants: patience, possibly young guards. Offers: vets (Foye, Hickson, Arthur, Nelson) for 2nd rounders if possible.
Detroit - Wants: shooting from most positions. Offers: unknown, team is preserving capspace.
Golden State - Wants: upgrade at backup 4/5, wing scorer. Offers: Speights, Jason Thompson, Rush.
Houston -
Indiana - Wants: possible guard option, upgrades at forward spots. Offers: 2016, some expirings (Budinger/Solomon Hill).
LA Clippers -
LA Lakers -
Memphis -
Miami -
Milwaukee -
Minnesota - Wants: 3-pt shooting, perimeter defense (A. Bradley-type is ideal). Offers: Martin, possibly Dieng and Shabazz.
New Orleans -
New York -
Oklahoma City - Wants: two-way wing player. Offers: McGary, Huestis, Waiters, 2nd rounders, Novak's expiring.
Orlando - Wants: starting PF. Offers: ONE of Fournier/Oladipo, to be determined by FO.
Philadelphia - Wants: picks/swaps, dump Landry if possible. Offers: capspace, Wroten/Canaan, lower-upside picks.
Phoenix -
Portland - Wants: picks, young talent. Offers: capspace, Henderson, Kaman, possibly McCallum/Leonard/Crabbe.
Sacramento - Wants: possibly starting SG. Offers: Belinelli, possibly Collison.
San Antonio - Wants: possible bench C? No urgency. Offers: likely to stand pat.
Toronto - Wants: upgrade at PF, bench scoring, time to integrate. Offers: unknown.
Utah - Wants: stopgap PG, stretch 4. Offers: in theory, picks/capspace/expiring. Due to injuries, likely to stand pat.
Washington -

I wanted to lead off by doing Utah's but we don't have much to say

With Exum out for the season and Gobert now down "indefinitely", it looks like another year of "patience" for the Jazz. We were already looking to top out as a fringe playoff team, and now who knows.

Our needs are pretty well-known: a stop-gap point guard and a stretch 4.

Our available assets USED TO include ~$7M capspace, a ~$5M expiring, and multiple first round picks. Now I'm not sure we're actually going to do anything, just play it out. We'll see what happens when Gobert returns, whenever that is.

Good call! For OKC:

Needs: A solid 2 way SG or backup wing, preferably able to play the 2 or 3. Wouldn't mind a better backup PG but really Augustin's fine.

Assets available are limited though, no firsts available so: Waiters, maybe Augustin if a PG is coming back, McGary, Huestis, any seconds, and Charlotte's second. Can send Novak for salary (expiring).

Need interior defense and a defensive role player wing.

We probably dangle PJ Hairston, Spencer Hawes, (hopefully) Al Jefferson, Brian Roberts, Tyler Hansbrough, maybe Cody Zeller, maybe Marvin Williams, and future picks as trade bait depending on the offer.

I actually think the Nuggets are doing better than most people expected but just a little worse than many Nugs fans expected (for example I thought they'd go 7-11 in Oct/Nov and they went 6-12).

The injuries to Nurkic, Chandler, Lavergne, Faried and now Harris have set them back and Foye & Nelson shooting like absolute ass has certainly cost them a game or two.

Needs are definitely at the 1&2 spots, so that's where I'd look for them to draft. But trading for any useful young player at those spots is going to be tough. So the biggest needs right now are patience, development minutes, and good health.

The players who should be on the block are Foye, Hickson, Arthur and Nelson. Maybe Papanikolau and Miller. But all of those guys are players that won't be with the team for long anyway and I guess some of them are good to have around if the Nugs don't care about winning many games this year and getting a better draft pick. If any of those guys could be turned into 2nd rounders that would be ok given the team's relative success identifying good players late in the draft.

tl;dr

needs: draft picks
assets: Foye, Hickson, Arthur, Nelson, Papanikolau, and Mike Miller

bondom34 wrote:Good call! For OKC:

Needs: A solid 2 way SG or backup wing, preferably able to play the 2 or 3. Wouldn't mind a better backup PG but really Augustin's fine.

Assets available are limited though, no firsts available so: Waiters, maybe Augustin if a PG is coming back, McGary, Huestis, any seconds, and Charlotte's second. Can send Novak for salary (expiring).

Just curious (and not for my team, for the record) — would OKC trade Payne at the deadline if he returned *THE* piece that could put them over the top this year? Seems like the Thunder have a lot on the line with KD's impending free agency, but winning the championship would probably eliminate those concerns (can't see Durant leaving after a parade). Would the Thunder push their biggest trade chip to the center of the table to go "all in?"

DocRI wrote:

bondom34 wrote:Good call! For OKC:

Needs: A solid 2 way SG or backup wing, preferably able to play the 2 or 3. Wouldn't mind a better backup PG but really Augustin's fine.

Assets available are limited though, no firsts available so: Waiters, maybe Augustin if a PG is coming back, McGary, Huestis, any seconds, and Charlotte's second. Can send Novak for salary (expiring).

Just curious (and not for my team, for the record) — would OKC trade Payne at the deadline if he returned *THE* piece that could put them over the top this year? Seems like the Thunder have a lot on the line with KD's impending free agency, but winning the championship would probably eliminate those concerns (can't see Durant leaving after a parade). Would the Thunder push their biggest trade chip to the center of the table to go "all in?"

I guess in theory, but it would have to be a crazy good deal. As much panic as outsiders have, the org (and most fans) aren't too concerned w/ KD's free agency, pretty confident he stays.

If Phoenix looks like a longshot come playoff time, would either side consider a McGary+filler for PJ Tucker trade? As a fan of neither team it actually intrigues me for both sides.

loserX wrote:We're at the quarter-point of the season...still a long way to go, but we should have a clearer picture of team strengths and weaknesses for the time being!

Again, I know this has already been said, but great thread, loser!

My take on the Pistons —

loserX wrote:How is your team doing relative to expectations? Although it's early, do you look like a buyer or a seller?

Significantly better than expectations at this point; even SVG recently said that, considering the schedule we've faced, he would've been happy being .500 at the end of November. Really big picture, Andre Drummond's emergence is the single biggest thing (no pun intended) that could've happened for this franchise, and it truly looks like he's taken that massive next step. So I think we're a moderate buyer; with such a young core (Dre 22, Jackson 25, Johnson 19, KCP turning 23, and Morris 26), there's no need to push for immediate championship contention. Making the playoffs this year, however, is a big and necessary first step for this team, so I think we entertain offers towards that goal so long as it doesn't compromise our long term future.

loserX wrote:Most importantly: What are your team needs? What sorts of players are you looking for to fill them?

You know those players who can project the ball towards the rim (particularly from long distance) and then watch it go through the net? Yeah, we need more of them.

Seriously, SHOOTERS. We need more shooters, particularly on our bench (which is downright pathetic). Granted, Brandon Jennings and Jodi Meeks are probably our two best bench scorers and they're both currently out, but they're not locks to fill our needs upon their returns seeing as both are coming off major injuries.

loserX wrote:What assets are you making available? What trade value are you expecting in return?

Sorry for the cop-out, but it all depends on the return. For instance, Jennings is a lotto ticket who might address some major needs or might not, so there's no need to trade him for another gamble; however, using his expiring contract in a trade for s sure thing (like, say, an upgraded starter at PF, which would shift Ilyasova to the bench, hence improving the second unit's scoring) would certainly be considered. However, Drummond apparently agreed to put off his extension so that the team would have extra money in free agency this offseason, so it would take a significant return to dip into that impending cap space. So I more expect SVG to try to make another of his low cost, "nothing for nothing," expirings-for-expirings trades to try to boost the bench a bit while saving his next major move for the offseason.

loserX wrote:If Phoenix looks like a longshot come playoff time, would either side consider a McGary+filler for PJ Tucker trade? As a fan of neither team it actually intrigues me for both sides.

In a flash for me.

Warriors:

The results are there and it look as though we don't really need anything, just health to remain. However, we do need an upgrade to Speights and Jason Thompson, and also another reliable backup wing scorer. Ian Clarke has emerged as a decent backup wing that can shoot, so the backup 4/5 is more of a need.

It's funny to say, but I think we actually miss David Lee, lolz.

Assets - Mo Speights/Jason Thompson/Brandon Rush
Needs - Backup 4/5 and/or wing scorer

A player like Ryan Anderson, Markieff Morris, Myers Leonard or Kenneth Faried would be ideal.

bondom34 wrote:

DocRI wrote:

bondom34 wrote:Good call! For OKC:

Needs: A solid 2 way SG or backup wing, preferably able to play the 2 or 3. Wouldn't mind a better backup PG but really Augustin's fine.

Assets available are limited though, no firsts available so: Waiters, maybe Augustin if a PG is coming back, McGary, Huestis, any seconds, and Charlotte's second. Can send Novak for salary (expiring).

Just curious (and not for my team, for the record) — would OKC trade Payne at the deadline if he returned *THE* piece that could put them over the top this year? Seems like the Thunder have a lot on the line with KD's impending free agency, but winning the championship would probably eliminate those concerns (can't see Durant leaving after a parade). Would the Thunder push their biggest trade chip to the center of the table to go "all in?"

I guess in theory, but it would have to be a crazy good deal. As much panic as outsiders have, the org (and most fans) aren't too concerned w/ KD's free agency, pretty confident he stays.

that's exactly how portland org/fans felt about lma up until early march last year.

for portland, I think we're about where we expected. If we wanted to win more, which we don't really, we'd want to get a backup pg/sg who can create, but we're probably more sellers without much to sell... Chris Kaman for a 2nd anyone?

For the Pacers. Definitely exceeding expectations. This season has made me question everything I thought I knew about my team. Before the season I would have tabbed Ian Mahinmi and CJ Miles as the most tradable pieces, but right now I think they are the most valuable right after Paul George. It's been a crazy season.

I don't know if we're looking to make moves this season, but if we are, put us down as buyers. Paul George's superstar turn is covering a host of flaws, but there are definitely things that can be improved.

Team needs:

Our 3 headed backcourt (GHill, Monta, Stuckey) hasn't performed up to expectations. Some of it is injuries/sickness, but I think the long term fit of this group is a concern. Still, I expect that we'll give this group some more time to gel. It would be nice to have another guard option though.

Budinger and Lavoy Allen are probably the weakest players in the rotation right now. They've both had their moments, but are maddeningly inconsistent. An upgrade at either forward position would be great.

Assets:

Not a whole lot to be honest. 2016 pick + expiring to match salaries (Solo, maybe Budinger) is the most we would be willing to part with at this point. The salary restriction makes it tough to find a match. Ideal trade target would probably be some team's upcoming RFA that they're not expected to match, maybe Boston's Sullinger or Houston's Jones/Motie.

Coxy wrote:Warriors:

The results are there and it look as though we don't really need anything, just health to remain. However, we do need an upgrade to Speights and Jason Thompson, and also another reliable backup wing scorer. Ian Clarke has emerged as a decent backup wing that can shoot, so the backup 4/5 is more of a need.

It's funny to say, but I think we actually miss David Lee, lolz.

Assets - Mo Speights/Jason Thompson/Brandon Rush
Needs - Backup 4/5 and/or wing scorer

A player like Ryan Anderson, Markieff Morris, Myers Leonard or Kenneth Faried would be ideal.

HOLY CRAP, is life ever nice when your team is 20-0! Anderson, Markieff, Leonard or Faried ... as a "backup 4/5." Those guys are literally only back ups on your team, and you aint getting them for Speights / JT / Rush.

Seriously, you don't NEED an upgrade to Speights and Thompson, you WANT one. Just be grateful and know that literally EVERYONE else is jealous of you!

The Pacers could use an athletic big man, shot blocker rebounder who can get out and run. I like Gorgui Dieng, they don't need much offense from him, but depth at the 4/5 would help right now with Myles Turner out with the broken thumb.

damecurry wrote:

bondom34 wrote:

DocRI wrote:
Just curious (and not for my team, for the record) — would OKC trade Payne at the deadline if he returned *THE* piece that could put them over the top this year? Seems like the Thunder have a lot on the line with KD's impending free agency, but winning the championship would probably eliminate those concerns (can't see Durant leaving after a parade). Would the Thunder push their biggest trade chip to the center of the table to go "all in?"

I guess in theory, but it would have to be a crazy good deal. As much panic as outsiders have, the org (and most fans) aren't too concerned w/ KD's free agency, pretty confident he stays.

that's exactly how portland org/fans felt about lma up until early march last year.

Except Durant hasn't ever had a rumor that he wanted out, or ever asked for a trade,so really nothing like it. Oh, and the greater success (at least when healthy), and the much more constant praise and compliments of teammates and team, and the better teammates at least on the high end. And Some Minnesota fans hoped Love would stay too, doesn't mean all situations are the same (or even a little comparable).

Mavs are currently exceeding expectations but a big part of that has been our easy schedule. Taking that into account I'd say we are about where I expected--a team either just in or just out of the playoffs.

Needs: Another big -- a lot of Mavs fans are optimistic JaVale can be that guy. I'm not ready to buy into that just yet.
A wing -- we really only have 2 that Rick trusts at all and both have injury limitations.
Shooters -- we should have enough of these internally, but 1/4 through the season and we are at the bottom of the league on making open shots.

Assets: Not much. Justin Anderson, some 2nds. I'd not be willing to trade a future 1st barring someone expected being made available and I'd prefer to not deal Dwight Powell. And if we did deal him then we'd need 2 bigs.

Spurs are having troubles on offense but I dont think any changes need to be made.

Aldridge needs to get comfortable on O mainly. No one can touch our D yet this year.



I think the Pelicans are in the most interesting spot.
They own their pick this year and I think should trade Holiday + Anderson for a defensive wing.

If I'm the Pelicans I try to go all in and get MKG + high lotto pick this year next to AD and Tyreke.

Bucks and Magic strike me as teams that need to condense talent a little bit

Hmmm wolves.

We are tied for 8th seed and shouldn't be even close. So we doing ok. We have many vets that are gonna be shopped at deadline if we fall off the playoff wagon and it's very obvious we will be sending them out for youth. We haven't been a buyer at the deadline in over a decade. So if we are this year. Wow.


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