Kevin Love Containment Thread -- All Deals Here

DLeagueAllStars · Post #1 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:17 pm

Noah and Melo to Cleveland for TT, Frye and JR Smith... not sure if shump works better

But figue to unload Noah deal, moving the bigger contract of Smith would work better

This would allow Cle to go for Butler at SG using love, or play small with Love at C and Shump at SG

As for the knicks, they rid themselves of melo and noah, get a C for the next 3 seasons to play with Kristaps and opens the SF position for a player who fits the triangle better

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Post #2 » by **moocow007** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:43 pm

If a team could actually depend on Noah to play 50-60 games and maybe 15-18 minutes per I think he may be of interest. But right now Noah is more or less looking like an very expensive Anderson Varejao. He simply cannot stay healthy. Going to be very difficult to find a taker unless the Knicks either take similar contracts back or give up a significant asset. Noah is a NY'er and if nothing else he provides some charisma so trading him for a different expensive lamp post doesn't make sense. Conversely, since the Knicks aren't really in any condition where using cap space to sign guys is viable, there really isn't a great need to move Noah's contract. Anthony? I mean I think the general take on this board (and most boards) that he's not all that valuable (I disagree but then again, it is what it is).

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #3 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:47 pm

Hmm, Joakim Noah in Cleveland you say? Can't imagine either party wants that.

DLeagueAllStars · Post #4 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:51 pm

moocow007 wrote:If a team could actually depend on Noah to play 50-60 games and maybe 15-18 minutes per I think he may be of interest. But right now Noah is more or less looking like an very expensive Anderson Varejao. He simply cannot stay healthy. Going to be very difficult to find a taker unless the Knicks either take similar contracts back or give up a significant asset. Noah is a NY'er and if nothing else he provides some charisma so trading him for a different expensive lamp post doesn't make sense. Conversely, since the Knicks aren't really in any condition where using cap space to sign guys is viable, there really isn't a great need to move Noah's contract. Anthony? I mean I think the general take on this board (and most boards) that he's not all that valuable (I disagree but then again, it is what it is).

Well that is the thought... If melo is considered to be an asset, then using him to unload Melo deal would work

Agree right now that knicks are not a place that FA want to sign, but im sure there are better ways to spend that 18 Mil

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DLeagueAllStars · Post #5 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:52 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Hmm, Joakim Noah in Cleveland you say? Can't imagine either party wants that.

No, but the knicks would and Melo on the knicks is something LeBron would want... price if doing business

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ChaosHamster · Post #6 » by **ChaosHamster** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:35 am

Knicks trade: Melo, Lance Thomas, Kyle O`Quinn
Knicks get: Allen Crabbe, Moe Harkless, 15th, 20th picks from Portland

Cavs trade: Love, Shumpert
Cavs get: Melo, Lance Thomas, Kyle O`Quinn

Portland trades: Crabbe, Harkless, 15th, 20th picks
Portland gets: Love, Shumpert

Why for the Knicks: Get Melo out. Add young player/picks for a rebuild.

WFT Cavs: Try something new against GSW by swapping Melo for Love. Add great perimeter defender in Lance Thomas, who also can hit a three. Kyle is a solid bench big, who can bring some toughness, and recover for some Love`s lost rebounding.

WFT Blazers: Get rid of Crabbes contract, while significantly improving by adding all-star in Love. Love and Nurkic front-court can do some dmg.

Soulyss · Post #7 » by **Soulyss** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:42 am

That is a brutally bad return for the Cavs and way to good for the Blazers.

Big FatKAT · Post #8 » by **Big FatKAT** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:44 am

Soulyss wrote:That is a brutally bad return for the Cavs and way to good for the Blazers.

How do you figure...Melo > love

Post #9 » by **dakomish23** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:47 am

Knicksfan20 · Post #10 » by **Knicksfan20** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:49 am

Soulyss wrote:That is a brutally bad return for the Cavs and way to good for the Blazers.

Odd because I thought it was bad for the blazers and good for the Cavs.

So...If you guys are happy... Cavs will be happy. We happy. Im down

Roy The Natural · Post #11 » by **Roy The Natural** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:00 am

Knicksfan20 wrote:
Soulyss wrote:That is a brutally bad return for the Cavs and way to good for the Blazers.

Odd because I thought it was bad for the blazers and good for the Cavs.

So...If you guys are happy... Cavs will be happy. We happy. Im down

Same... hahaha... I have no want for Love to be honest. He just doesn't do it for me. His defense is just not getting Portland anywhere and he's injured ALLLL THHEEE TIME. If he wasn't injured so often I'd say sure, let's give it a shot. He'd look damn good on offense stretching the floor... but he looks as slow as ever these days.

Myth · Post #12 » by **Myth** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:01 am

This is a rare trade that Portland takes on salary that I think Paul Allen would find worth the luxury tax if we can't unload other contracts.

I also think this is bad for Cavs though. I'd much rather have Love than Melo if I were them. He has finally started to connect there, and is younger and not clearly on the decline like Melo.

Knicksfan20 · Post #13 » by **Knicksfan20** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:07 am

You guys overate Love's rebounding so much. Love has shown 3 years in a row what he is made of in the playoffs. He isn't the man Melo is. Love is good for pointing up numbers. Melo as a defender>>love and its not close ...that's how bad Love is on defense. And he doesn't contest shots so he can rebound the ball.

R-DAWG · Post #14 » by **R-DAWG** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:14 am

Knicksfan20 wrote:You guys overate Love's rebounding so much. Love has shown 3 years in a row what he is made of in the playoffs. He isn't the man Melo is. Love is good for pointing up numbers. Melo as a defender>>love and its not close ...that's how bad Love is on defense. And he doesn't contest shots so he can rebound the ball.

Melo hasn't missed a shot in the playoffs since 2013, just saying.

GEE · Post #15 » by **GEE** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:31 am

This thread is hillarious!!!

Melo > Love

:lol:

Knicksfan20 · Post #16 » by **Knicksfan20** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:32 am

R-DAWG wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:You guys overate Love's rebounding so much. Love has shown 3 years in a row what he is made of in the playoffs. He isn't the man Melo is. Love is good for pointing up numbers. Melo as a defender>>love and its not close ...that's how bad Love is on defense. And he doesn't contest shots so he can rebound the ball.

Melo hasn't missed a shot in the playoffs since 2013, just saying.

Love hadn't either til he teamed up with Lebron. Just saying :wink:

Rotten Apple · Post #17 » by **Rotten Apple** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:36 am

Love is All-World. Top 5 player of all time according to the RealGM trade board.

GEE · Post #18 » by **GEE** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:38 am

Soulyss wrote:That is a brutally bad return for the Cavs and way to good for the Blazers.

"Way to good for the Blazers"

:lol:

Aussiepiston1 · Post #19 » by **Aussiepiston1** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:49 am

Looks good to me or you could swap out Portland for LAC with a Griffin sign and trade if thats allowed.
Knicks- Griffin, Rivers,
LAC- Love, Shumpert
Cleveland- Melo, Willy H, O'quinn

giberish · Post #20 » by **giberish** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:13 am

Rotten Apple wrote:Love is All-World. Top 5 player of all time according to the RealGM trade board.

????

Prime Melo > Current Love > Current Melo

Saying Love is better then current Melo isn't saying that much. There's a lot of players better then current Melo. IMO Melo was about the 40th best player in the league last year. Given his age he probably drops from there. How much impact did Wade have for Chicago this season? Was it the same, or far, far less then the impact a younger Wade would have had?