NashtyNas wrote:HartfordWhalers wrote:I think there is disagreement on both Bledsoe's cost and the cost of dumping the bad player, but it gets needlessly tangled too often.
I.e.
Bledsoe is worth pick ~10,
dumping bad player is worth pick ~16.
Someone offers pick 8 for both
Now the debate could be does 10+16 = 8 or if not how much is it off (a 2nd and/or cash).
Instead the debate seems to be cast as pick 8 is good enough for just one of Bledsoe or the dump.
If you have Bledsoe and the dump that costly okay, but the dumps I have seen are more marginal than the picks being offered almost always (there are clear exceptions).
Back come last draft there was a bunch of:
RJ, #12, (Stanley Johnson).
To me with SJ that was fair as SJ helps make up for taking on RJ -- who isn't Meyers Leonard. Without SJ it was clearly light.
That's the problem. From the Suns point of view, taking on RJ for moving up 2 spots and giving up 16 all together (in this hypothetical of 10+16 vs. 8) seems silly and counter productive.
I would much rather move Bledsoe separately for a pick in the 10-15 range and then take on salary separately to get another asset.
I don't think RJ, 12, Johnson is something we consider remotely. Johnson's addition might be enough to make up the value for RJ from Detroit's perspective, but with Jackson and Warren on board, Johnson isn't getting minutes here and wouldn't be a longterm piece... so he adds nothing for us.
I understand the issue, which is why I believe Bledsoe is still a Sun - and that's fine. We're more than okay keeping him or we would've taken one of those questionable deals already.
I would much rather move Bledsoe separately for a pick in the 10-15 range and then take on salary separately to get another asset.
The teams with high draft picks should have minimal interest in trading for Bledsoe because they need a combination of more talent and more time for the young talent they already have to develop. Bledsoe in his late 20's doesn't fit the timeline for teams with some similarities to Phoenix such as Atlanta, Chicago, Orlando etc.
Cap space will be an issue for multiple contending teams over the next few years, so the impact of Bledsoe's incoming contract will be an issue for the teams that make sense as destinations for him. It could be very difficult to have a trade of Bledose and taking on a salary dump from another team as independent events.