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LA trades Deng, Randle, 2021 1st (unprotected) for Melo
- Melo is likely to opt-out, especially if he's in a place he doesn't want to be. LA creates a boatload of cap space and hopes to retain Melo at a fair price next season so they can bring in his buddy LeBron and Paul George to play with him. If Melo doesn't opt out, they can still add 1 max FA which is easier to do with a guy of Melo's caliber on your team than with Luol Deng.
PHX trades Knight, Warren for Deng, Randle
- Swap bad contracts and underwhelming prospects to open up more playing time for Jackson. Take a flier on Randle. Deng would be the perfect mentor for Jackson who projects to be a top tier defender and slasher as Deng once was.
NY trades Melo for Knight, Warren, LA 2021 1st
- Add an overpaid, disgruntled pointguard for their overpaid, disgruntled forward while netting a young forward and future first in the process. They move on from the Melo-drama while addressing a couple needs and adding a pick.
- Melo is likely to opt-out, especially if he's in a place he doesn't want to be. LA creates a boatload of cap space and hopes to retain Melo at a fair price next season so they can bring in his buddy LeBron and Paul George to play with him. If Melo doesn't opt out, they can still add 1 max FA which is easier to do with a guy of Melo's caliber on your team than with Luol Deng.
PHX trades Knight, Warren for Deng, Randle
- Swap bad contracts and underwhelming prospects to open up more playing time for Jackson. Take a flier on Randle. Deng would be the perfect mentor for Jackson who projects to be a top tier defender and slasher as Deng once was.
NY trades Melo for Knight, Warren, LA 2021 1st
- Add an overpaid, disgruntled pointguard for their overpaid, disgruntled forward while netting a young forward and future first in the process. They move on from the Melo-drama while addressing a couple needs and adding a pick.
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I think the suns easily pass on this:
I'd rather pay Knight's 3/45 than Deng's 3/54. And i'd rather have Warren over Randle with Chriss/Bender at PF. With both Warren/Randle up for extensions, I'm much more comfortable spending money on Warren instead of having to justify spending big money on Randle knowing that he restricts the development of both Chriss/Bender.
I'd rather pay Knight's 3/45 than Deng's 3/54. And i'd rather have Warren over Randle with Chriss/Bender at PF. With both Warren/Randle up for extensions, I'm much more comfortable spending money on Warren instead of having to justify spending big money on Randle knowing that he restricts the development of both Chriss/Bender.
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I don't think the Lakers throw in Randle and an unprotected 1st just to get rid of Deng. I also don't think Melo really fits there, and I don't think this is an appropriate price to pay for cap space, if that's all it is.
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dantley4prez wrote:I don't think the Lakers throw in Randle and an unprotected 1st just to get rid of Deng. I also don't think Melo really fits there, and I don't think this is an appropriate price to pay for cap space, if that's all it is.
Who cares about Randle anyway? He is not in the long term plans and getting rid of Deng certainly meets those objectives. But I would not trade an unprotected first in any case, it needs to be at least top 8 protected.
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asudevil wrote:
I'd rather pay Knight's 3/45 than Deng's 3/54.
My first thought too was Deng's money is worse than Knight's. But then you show me the difference is only $9M over 3 years which is nothing. Then you have Knight completely unable to play for the first year. Then you add in Deng is the ultimate professional and a great leader for a young team compared to Knight, who well isn't either of those things.
And all of a sudden I think that swap is pretty darn great for the Suns. In fact the more I think about it the more appealing it becomes for the Suns. I can't really think of a single reason other than a marginal amount of cap space saved that 3rd year to prefer Knight and obviously the other benefits in the deal are worth more than few million in cap space 2 years from now.
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patman52 wrote:dantley4prez wrote:I don't think the Lakers throw in Randle and an unprotected 1st just to get rid of Deng. I also don't think Melo really fits there, and I don't think this is an appropriate price to pay for cap space, if that's all it is.
Who cares about Randle anyway? He is not in the long term plans and getting rid of Deng certainly meets those objectives. But I would not trade an unprotected first in any case, it needs to be at least top 8 protected.
We already know from multiple reports the Lakers were willing to add an unprotected 1st to dump Deng or Mozgov this off-season, so the pick shouldn't be seen as an issue. And as you say they can't afford Randle's cap hold next year anyway so why not give more minutes now to their young PF's under team control.
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dantley4prez wrote:I don't think the Lakers throw in Randle and an unprotected 1st just to get rid of Deng. I also don't think Melo really fits there, and I don't think this is an appropriate price to pay for cap space, if that's all it is.
I think we would given the Summer 2018 plan, and this makes us a better team next year IMO. Would just need Melo to opt-out prior to trade so he's expiring.
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dantley4prez wrote:I don't think the Lakers throw in Randle and an unprotected 1st just to get rid of Deng. I also don't think Melo really fits there, and I don't think this is an appropriate price to pay for cap space, if that's all it is.
You are under valuing Carmelo as a player. AND as a drawing card for Lebron.
I like the deal for the suns only if they plan on flipping randle as part of a kyrie package
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I dont mind la price, just dont want melo any where near the team. I dont see him as a positive on a young team like ours and i dont think la needs him to attract james, the banana boat crew stuff is over blown
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BallnIngram wrote:I dont mind la price, just dont want melo any where near the team. I dont see him as a positive on a young team like ours and i dont think la needs him to attract james, the banana boat crew stuff is over blown
KP likes him
Never heard of him being a bad influence rather well liked.
He also makes LAL a possible P.O. team.
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Texas Chuck wrote:asudevil wrote:
I'd rather pay Knight's 3/45 than Deng's 3/54.
My first thought too was Deng's money is worse than Knight's. But then you show me the difference is only $9M over 3 years which is nothing. Then you have Knight completely unable to play for the first year. Then you add in Deng is the ultimate professional and a great leader for a young team compared to Knight, who well isn't either of those things.
And all of a sudden I think that swap is pretty darn great for the Suns. In fact the more I think about it the more appealing it becomes for the Suns. I can't really think of a single reason other than a marginal amount of cap space saved that 3rd year to prefer Knight and obviously the other benefits in the deal are worth more than few million in cap space 2 years from now.
There is the redudandcy of Dudley already being there for the exact same role that Deng would have. But other than that, I completely agree.
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Trader_Joe wrote:BallnIngram wrote:I dont mind la price, just dont want melo any where near the team. I dont see him as a positive on a young team like ours and i dont think la needs him to attract james, the banana boat crew stuff is over blown
KP likes him
Never heard of him being a bad influence rather well liked.
He also makes LAL a possible P.O. team.
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KCP
Ingram
Melo
Lopez
I dont want a ball stopper on the team and if he couldnt lead nyk to a playoff in tje weaker east what makes you think hes the difference in la? N theres no chance he opts out, if he did he would know la wouldnt give him a new contract anywhere near his current pay n to sacrifice dlo for one of the max guy to be melo makes that trade even worse
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