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Spurs out: Aldridge + Kyle Anderson + Forbes
Spurs in: Shumpert + Frye + BKN pick
Cavs out: Love + Shumpert + Frye + Jefferson + BKN pick
Cavs in: McCollum + Aldridge + Aminu + Forbes
Blazers out: McCollum + Aminu
Blazers in: Love + Kyle Anderson + Jefferson
Spurs do it for the pick. Shumperts contract is just cost of doing business. Frye could be waived and Lee resigned.
Cavs get 2 stars that are playable against the Warriors and Aminu to help defend. Forbes is a great floor spacer for spot minutes if needed.
IT/Drose
CJ/JR smith/Korver
Lebron/Crowder/Aminu
Aldridge/Crowder/Aminu/Lebron
TT/Aldridge/Zizic
Great offense, great defense, great spacing
Blazers get a better fit on a good long term contract and get under the tax. Anderson gives them an additional playmaker who can defend the 2-4
Who says no?
Spurs in: Shumpert + Frye + BKN pick
Cavs out: Love + Shumpert + Frye + Jefferson + BKN pick
Cavs in: McCollum + Aldridge + Aminu + Forbes
Blazers out: McCollum + Aminu
Blazers in: Love + Kyle Anderson + Jefferson
Spurs do it for the pick. Shumperts contract is just cost of doing business. Frye could be waived and Lee resigned.
Cavs get 2 stars that are playable against the Warriors and Aminu to help defend. Forbes is a great floor spacer for spot minutes if needed.
IT/Drose
CJ/JR smith/Korver
Lebron/Crowder/Aminu
Aldridge/Crowder/Aminu/Lebron
TT/Aldridge/Zizic
Great offense, great defense, great spacing
Blazers get a better fit on a good long term contract and get under the tax. Anderson gives them an additional playmaker who can defend the 2-4
Who says no?
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Blazers say no... They aren't trading CJ for Love... The Blazers are already short for depth at the SG and just drafted two PF/C types. I would just cut Portland out, Keep Love, and play LMA at Center for the Cavs
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Spurs get cut here. A Love-McCollum framework is just easier and cheaper for Cleveland if done directly.
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A back court of IT & CJ would get abused nightly.
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if you cut out frye and forbes in the deal , and send aminu to spurs I thinks its a deal for me,
I kinda like this as well
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybt37kkl
Spurs gets Brooklyn pick JR Smith, Al aminu
Portland gets Kevin Love Richard Jefferson Kyle Anderson
Cleveland gets Cj Mccollum, Lamarcus aldridge
Spurs play alot of small ball with Leonard playing the four
I kinda like this as well
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybt37kkl
Spurs gets Brooklyn pick JR Smith, Al aminu
Portland gets Kevin Love Richard Jefferson Kyle Anderson
Cleveland gets Cj Mccollum, Lamarcus aldridge
Spurs play alot of small ball with Leonard playing the four
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As a GSW fan I endorse this deal for the Cavs as they end up with a backcourt that simply cannot defend Curry/Thompson and LMA who can't keep up with the W's pace.
I can't see PDX doing this deal anyway as Love does nothing to make them a contender vs GSW. PDX would want the BKN pick if they were to deal CJ to Cleveland.
I can't see PDX doing this deal anyway as Love does nothing to make them a contender vs GSW. PDX would want the BKN pick if they were to deal CJ to Cleveland.
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bigmean wrote:if you cut out frye and forbes in the deal , and send aminu to spurs I thinks its a deal for me,
I kinda like this as well
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybt37kkl
Spurs gets Brooklyn pick JR Smith, Al aminu
Portland gets Kevin Love Richard Jefferson Kyle Anderson
Cleveland gets Cj Mccollum, Lamarcus aldridge
Spurs play alot of small ball with Leonard playing the four
Thst would be amazing for San Antonio. Obviously Cleveland doesn't consider this.
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I dis agree to gets two all star starters is hard to question
end of games
Isiah Thomas, Cj Mccollum, Jae crowder, Lebron james lamarcus aldridge, with thompson on the bench
end of games
Isiah Thomas, Cj Mccollum, Jae crowder, Lebron james lamarcus aldridge, with thompson on the bench
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Cklbmk wrote:Spurs out: Aldridge + Kyle Anderson + Forbes
Spurs in: Shumpert + Frye + BKN pick
Cavs out: Love + Shumpert + Frye + Jefferson + BKN pick
Cavs in: McCollum + Aldridge + Aminu + Forbes
Blazers out: McCollum + Aminu
Blazers in: Love + Kyle Anderson + Jefferson
Spurs do it for the pick. Shumperts contract is just cost of doing business. Frye could be waived and Lee resigned.
Cavs get 2 stars that are playable against the Warriors and Aminu to help defend. Forbes is a great floor spacer for spot minutes if needed.
IT/Drose
CJ/JR smith/Korver
Lebron/Crowder/Aminu
Aldridge/Crowder/Aminu/Lebron
TT/Aldridge/Zizic
Great offense, great defense, great spacing
Blazers get a better fit on a good long term contract and get under the tax. Anderson gives them an additional playmaker who can defend the 2-4
Who says no?
Long story short: EC Alderidge and Kyle Anderson does not bring home a potential #1 pick.
The pick goes to POR, with Shump and Frye. Love goes to SAS, Kyle Anderson can stay home. Jefferson also comes to the Spurs.
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nykballa2k4 wrote:Cklbmk wrote:Spurs out: Aldridge + Kyle Anderson + Forbes
Spurs in: Shumpert + Frye + BKN pick
Cavs out: Love + Shumpert + Frye + Jefferson + BKN pick
Cavs in: McCollum + Aldridge + Aminu + Forbes
Blazers out: McCollum + Aminu
Blazers in: Love + Kyle Anderson + Jefferson
Spurs do it for the pick. Shumperts contract is just cost of doing business. Frye could be waived and Lee resigned.
Cavs get 2 stars that are playable against the Warriors and Aminu to help defend. Forbes is a great floor spacer for spot minutes if needed.
IT/Drose
CJ/JR smith/Korver
Lebron/Crowder/Aminu
Aldridge/Crowder/Aminu/Lebron
TT/Aldridge/Zizic
Great offense, great defense, great spacing
Blazers get a better fit on a good long term contract and get under the tax. Anderson gives them an additional playmaker who can defend the 2-4
Who says no?
Long story short: EC Alderidge and Kyle Anderson does not bring home a potential #1 pick.
The pick goes to POR, with Shump and Frye. Love goes to SAS, Kyle Anderson can stay home. Jefferson also comes to the Spurs.
I'd rather keep LMA over Love, but I could understand the desire for more of a long-term play on PATFO's part. The value is good from SA's perspective, though functionally I'm not sure that it makes sense. LMA will almost certainly be the five for huge chunks this year. He can do that defensively better than Love. The big advantage for Love besides contract is that his game is more friendly to the previous version of Spurs ball than LMA's is.
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Aldridge doesnt have this kind of value. And Portland would rather have the BKN pick than Love and Cavs would rather have Love than LMA; so i'm sure the Spurs get cut out right away.
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mademan wrote:Aldridge doesnt have this kind of value. And Portland would rather have the BKN pick than Love and Cavs would rather have Love than LMA; so i'm sure the Spurs get cut out right away.
Without a doubt. Spurs have pieces that IF they continue to improve on a Leonard like trajectory, you could talk yourselves into. But LMA isn't one of them. I think the Spurs could fall of a cliff this year.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Aldridge does not net you the BK 1st. And McCollum isn't really a desirable fit for the Cavs, especially if they're sending Shumpert out.
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Chinook wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:Cklbmk wrote:Spurs out: Aldridge + Kyle Anderson + Forbes
Spurs in: Shumpert + Frye + BKN pick
Cavs out: Love + Shumpert + Frye + Jefferson + BKN pick
Cavs in: McCollum + Aldridge + Aminu + Forbes
Blazers out: McCollum + Aminu
Blazers in: Love + Kyle Anderson + Jefferson
Spurs do it for the pick. Shumperts contract is just cost of doing business. Frye could be waived and Lee resigned.
Cavs get 2 stars that are playable against the Warriors and Aminu to help defend. Forbes is a great floor spacer for spot minutes if needed.
IT/Drose
CJ/JR smith/Korver
Lebron/Crowder/Aminu
Aldridge/Crowder/Aminu/Lebron
TT/Aldridge/Zizic
Great offense, great defense, great spacing
Blazers get a better fit on a good long term contract and get under the tax. Anderson gives them an additional playmaker who can defend the 2-4
Who says no?
Long story short: EC Alderidge and Kyle Anderson does not bring home a potential #1 pick.
The pick goes to POR, with Shump and Frye. Love goes to SAS, Kyle Anderson can stay home. Jefferson also comes to the Spurs.
I'd rather keep LMA over Love, but I could understand the desire for more of a long-term play on PATFO's part. The value is good from SA's perspective, though functionally I'm not sure that it makes sense. LMA will almost certainly be the five for huge chunks this year. He can do that defensively better than Love. The big advantage for Love besides contract is that his game is more friendly to the previous version of Spurs ball than LMA's is.
IMO contract and fit are the two reasons that I feel that LMA for Love should happen. Love and Pau would obviously be on the weaker side defensively, but contracts like Love's and Melo's are actually bargains now (since all-stars can make upwards of 30M). As a "core" how to Love and Kawhi fit together you think?
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nykballa2k4 wrote:Chinook wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:
Long story short: EC Alderidge and Kyle Anderson does not bring home a potential #1 pick.
The pick goes to POR, with Shump and Frye. Love goes to SAS, Kyle Anderson can stay home. Jefferson also comes to the Spurs.
I'd rather keep LMA over Love, but I could understand the desire for more of a long-term play on PATFO's part. The value is good from SA's perspective, though functionally I'm not sure that it makes sense. LMA will almost certainly be the five for huge chunks this year. He can do that defensively better than Love. The big advantage for Love besides contract is that his game is more friendly to the previous version of Spurs ball than LMA's is.
IMO contract and fit are the two reasons that I feel that LMA for Love should happen. Love and Pau would obviously be on the weaker side defensively, but contracts like Love's and Melo's are actually bargains now (since all-stars can make upwards of 30M). As a "core" how to Love and Kawhi fit together you think?
I don't know about "bargains." They are still taking up a huge percentage of the cap for mildly moving the needle. At best, Love is mildly underpaid, while Melo is mildly overpaid.
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nykballa2k4 wrote:Chinook wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:
Long story short: EC Alderidge and Kyle Anderson does not bring home a potential #1 pick.
The pick goes to POR, with Shump and Frye. Love goes to SAS, Kyle Anderson can stay home. Jefferson also comes to the Spurs.
I'd rather keep LMA over Love, but I could understand the desire for more of a long-term play on PATFO's part. The value is good from SA's perspective, though functionally I'm not sure that it makes sense. LMA will almost certainly be the five for huge chunks this year. He can do that defensively better than Love. The big advantage for Love besides contract is that his game is more friendly to the previous version of Spurs ball than LMA's is.
IMO contract and fit are the two reasons that I feel that LMA for Love should happen. Love and Pau would obviously be on the weaker side defensively, but contracts like Love's and Melo's are actually bargains now (since all-stars can make upwards of 30M). As a "core" how to Love and Kawhi fit together you think?
The fit is awful for Cleveland. LBJ likes the lane open and a TT/Love front court works really well against every team in the NBA save one. LMA needs to report to camp in the best shape of his career in order for him to rehabilitate his trade value. An athletic LMA might work in a high PNR/small-ball league. The current version does not.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Cavs and Blazers say no. Fit is bad for the Cavs and the value is bad for the Blazers.
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SAs gets so much extra value here that I'm concerned far more with that than with making the fits work elsewhere.
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bigmean wrote:if you cut out frye and forbes in the deal , and send aminu to spurs I thinks its a deal for me,
I kinda like this as well
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybt37kkl
Spurs gets Brooklyn pick JR Smith, Al aminu
Portland gets Kevin Love Richard Jefferson Kyle Anderson
Cleveland gets Cj Mccollum, Lamarcus aldridge
Spurs play alot of small ball with Leonard playing the four
No way, the Spurs are already eating value in the trade.
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i think it tremendous deal for spurs aminu/bertans is very good compliant tandem powerforward. leonard could also stay at small forward.If anyone get reform smith it's us coach pops
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