EDIT: The Best Deal For Both Sides Involving Wilson Chandler

[NYG]

Using this thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1645823

I'm going to create threads for the best deal for both sides involving each player then create a poll after a few deals are proposed.

So which deal makes sense for both sides involving Wilson Chandler?

Edit:

Courtney Lee, Kyle O'Quinn.
Nerlens Noel
Kenneth Faried

With Millsap's injury it is not very likely that Faried gets moved. Now Wilson Chandler might, but that is because he doesn't want to be here and it is obvious with the way he is playing.

[NYG]

Bump for edit.

[nykballa2k4]

FWIW I would gladly take him back here. IMO TOR is the spot, but not sure if they do Miles+Bebe+Bruno. They can include TPE for other guys off of DEN as well.

[NuggetsWY]

A deal with New York is unlikely. The problem is matching salaries and meeting needs. No doubt New York fans would love having Faried there. How to work a trade? There's the problem. Denver certainly doesn't need guards or power forwards. O'Quinn or maybe even better, Hernangomez might work but the salaries need the filler and Courtney Lee is not the answer. Denver already has Harris, Barton, Beasley, and Murray for SG minutes (with Murray also getting PG minutes). The Nuggets other big need past center is SF and New York probably only has one player Denver wants: Hardaway - and if I'm NY that's a BIG no. I just don't see the two teams as good trading partners at this time.

Trading with Dallas is easy because of their cap space. Convincing them to take a deal will be much harder. They seem to have enough PFs already, but Faried's energy would fit nicely in Dallas. Again, Denver could use a backup C or a SF with potential. I'm not opposed to adding Noel but with only one year, there'd need to be something else added. Either a pick or maybe Finney-Smith. Just not sure Dallas wants to give up picks or prospects for Faried.

[vege]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit do Ish and SJ?

[GreekAlex]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit do Ish and SJ?

No from Detroit on Ish.

With Reggie, we need a backup that can split time 50/50 if need be.

The Pistons don't even have a 3rd string PG. They'd be forced to go with Langston Galloway or a G-Leaguer.

[nykballa2k4]

A deal with New York is unlikely. The problem is matching salaries and meeting needs. No doubt New York fans would love having Faried there. How to work a trade? There's the problem. Denver certainly doesn't need guards or power forwards. O'Quinn or maybe even better, Hernangomez might work but the salaries need the filler and Courtney Lee is not the answer. Denver already has Harris, Barton, Beasley, and Murray for SG minutes (with Murray also getting PG minutes). The Nuggets other big need past center is SF and New York probably only has one player Denver wants: Hardaway - and if I'm NY that's a BIG no. I just don't see the two teams as good trading partners at this time.

Trading with Dallas is easy because of their cap space. Convincing them to take a deal will be much harder. They seem to have enough PFs already, but Faried's energy would fit nicely in Dallas. Again, Denver could use a backup C or a SF with potential. I'm not opposed to adding Noel but with only one year, there'd need to be something else added. Either a pick or maybe Finney-Smith. Just not sure Dallas wants to give up picks or prospects for Faried.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7numvyl
Just for an example.
Knicks cut some salary. Dallas adds some stable talent and good chemistry guys to go around Smith and whichever Doncic they draft.
Lee also has a smaller (though longer) contract than Wes so he would be easier to move. Matthews fits in as a stop-gap in Denver and basically helps pave the way for whichever wings step up. He could also likely be moved along with a prospect for an upgrade.

[NuggetsWY]

A deal with New York is unlikely. The problem is matching salaries and meeting needs. No doubt New York fans would love having Faried there. How to work a trade? There's the problem. Denver certainly doesn't need guards or power forwards. O'Quinn or maybe even better, Hernangomez might work but the salaries need the filler and Courtney Lee is not the answer. Denver already has Harris, Barton, Beasley, and Murray for SG minutes (with Murray also getting PG minutes). The Nuggets other big need past center is SF and New York probably only has one player Denver wants: Hardaway - and if I'm NY that's a BIG no. I just don't see the two teams as good trading partners at this time.

Trading with Dallas is easy because of their cap space. Convincing them to take a deal will be much harder. They seem to have enough PFs already, but Faried's energy would fit nicely in Dallas. Again, Denver could use a backup C or a SF with potential. I'm not opposed to adding Noel but with only one year, there'd need to be something else added. Either a pick or maybe Finney-Smith. Just not sure Dallas wants to give up picks or prospects for Faried.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7numvyl
Just for an example.
Knicks cut some salary. Dallas adds some stable talent and good chemistry guys to go around Smith and whichever Doncic they draft.
Lee also has a smaller (though longer) contract than Wes so he would be easier to move. Matthews fits in as a stop-gap in Denver and basically helps pave the way for whichever wings step up. He could also likely be moved along with a prospect for an upgrade.

I see the value for New York. It's not a long-term solution but it'll be nice for a couple of years, at least. They definitely get the best end of this deal.

Not sure it does much for Dallas. They need youth and this isn't it. Matthews is worth more than Kanter & Lee for the Mavericks - but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't help Denver at all. Denver has too many PFs and this changes one for a lesser one. Denver has too few SFs and this trades their best SF for a SG where they already have too many players.

[giberish]

Would something based on Chandler for Roberson be an option?
Denver makes an extreme move to upgrade their defense and hopes their offense doesn't drop that much.

[vege]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit do Ish and SJ?

Nope, Ish is way too good, Chandler shouldn't have anywhere near that value. Ish + Stanley + cap savings this year and next year should give Detroit a substantially better player than Chandler.

[nykballa2k4]

A deal with New York is unlikely. The problem is matching salaries and meeting needs. No doubt New York fans would love having Faried there. How to work a trade? There's the problem. Denver certainly doesn't need guards or power forwards. O'Quinn or maybe even better, Hernangomez might work but the salaries need the filler and Courtney Lee is not the answer. Denver already has Harris, Barton, Beasley, and Murray for SG minutes (with Murray also getting PG minutes). The Nuggets other big need past center is SF and New York probably only has one player Denver wants: Hardaway - and if I'm NY that's a BIG no. I just don't see the two teams as good trading partners at this time.

Trading with Dallas is easy because of their cap space. Convincing them to take a deal will be much harder. They seem to have enough PFs already, but Faried's energy would fit nicely in Dallas. Again, Denver could use a backup C or a SF with potential. I'm not opposed to adding Noel but with only one year, there'd need to be something else added. Either a pick or maybe Finney-Smith. Just not sure Dallas wants to give up picks or prospects for Faried.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7numvyl
Just for an example.
Knicks cut some salary. Dallas adds some stable talent and good chemistry guys to go around Smith and whichever Doncic they draft.
Lee also has a smaller (though longer) contract than Wes so he would be easier to move. Matthews fits in as a stop-gap in Denver and basically helps pave the way for whichever wings step up. He could also likely be moved along with a prospect for an upgrade.

I see the value for New York. It's not a long-term solution but it'll be nice for a couple of years, at least. They definitely get the best end of this deal.

Not sure it does much for Dallas. They need youth and this isn't it. Matthews is worth more than Kanter & Lee for the Mavericks - but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't help Denver at all. Denver has too many PFs and this changes one for a lesser one. Denver has too few SFs and this trades their best SF for a SG where they already have too many players.

The incentive for DEN there is the 6M off the books next year and the possibility of Matthews playing better and being able to be moved for something of positive value (lesser player + pick/prospect).

tbh, from NY I would do the deal with cutting DEN out, but that's a whole 'nother talk. I would love to see Faried in NY though and Kantar is close in salary so he would likely be involved in any framework.

[The Rebel]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7numvyl
Just for an example.
Knicks cut some salary. Dallas adds some stable talent and good chemistry guys to go around Smith and whichever Doncic they draft.
Lee also has a smaller (though longer) contract than Wes so he would be easier to move. Matthews fits in as a stop-gap in Denver and basically helps pave the way for whichever wings step up. He could also likely be moved along with a prospect for an upgrade.

I see the value for New York. It's not a long-term solution but it'll be nice for a couple of years, at least. They definitely get the best end of this deal.

Not sure it does much for Dallas. They need youth and this isn't it. Matthews is worth more than Kanter & Lee for the Mavericks - but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't help Denver at all. Denver has too many PFs and this changes one for a lesser one. Denver has too few SFs and this trades their best SF for a SG where they already have too many players.

The incentive for DEN there is the 6M off the books next year and the possibility of Matthews playing better and being able to be moved for something of positive value (lesser player + pick/prospect).

tbh, from NY I would do the deal with cutting DEN out, but that's a whole 'nother talk. I would love to see Faried in NY though and Kantar is close in salary so he would likely be involved in any framework.

6M off the books really does nothing for the Nuggets, it does not give them cap room.

Mathews is also not going to increase his value having to fight for minutes with the Nuggets guards, if anything his minutes and production will decrease killing his already bad value.

[NYG]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit make this offer for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?

What level of player would it take to add their 2018 1st to the package that is a realistic target?

[Timmaytime]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit make this offer for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?

What level of player would it take to add their 2018 1st to the package that is a realistic target?

MKG is tough, he's clearly an upgrade over Stanley but his lack of shooting is troubling. I would still say yes, I would do that.

[vege]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit make this offer for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?

What level of player would it take to add their 2018 1st to the package that is a realistic target?

Nope, MKG can't shoot, and Detroit's offense doen't work without shooting.

[NYG]

Would Denver do a Boban + Stanley Johnson for Wilson Chandler?

Would Detroit make this offer for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?

What level of player would it take to add their 2018 1st to the package that is a realistic target?

Nope, MKG can't shoot, and Detroit's offense doen't work without shooting.

Evan Fournier for Jon Leuer, Stanley Johnson and 2018 Top 10 Protected Pistons 1st? Detroit just stays under the luxury tax.

[nykballa2k4]

I see the value for New York. It's not a long-term solution but it'll be nice for a couple of years, at least. They definitely get the best end of this deal.

Not sure it does much for Dallas. They need youth and this isn't it. Matthews is worth more than Kanter & Lee for the Mavericks - but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't help Denver at all. Denver has too many PFs and this changes one for a lesser one. Denver has too few SFs and this trades their best SF for a SG where they already have too many players.

The incentive for DEN there is the 6M off the books next year and the possibility of Matthews playing better and being able to be moved for something of positive value (lesser player + pick/prospect).

tbh, from NY I would do the deal with cutting DEN out, but that's a whole 'nother talk. I would love to see Faried in NY though and Kantar is close in salary so he would likely be involved in any framework.

6M off the books really does nothing for the Nuggets, it does not give them cap room.

Mathews is also not going to increase his value having to fight for minutes with the Nuggets guards, if anything his minutes and production will decrease killing his already bad value.

Perhaps I am missing something, but Matthews is not a scrawny 6'5'' player. He can easily step into SF particularly in the "positionless" NBA.

Not saying that changes things, but it just feels like those 2k games where you can change the players trade value by just editing the player to change their position (and nothing else).

[NuggetsWY]

The incentive for DEN there is the 6M off the books next year and the possibility of Matthews playing better and being able to be moved for something of positive value (lesser player + pick/prospect).

tbh, from NY I would do the deal with cutting DEN out, but that's a whole 'nother talk. I would love to see Faried in NY though and Kantar is close in salary so he would likely be involved in any framework.

6M off the books really does nothing for the Nuggets, it does not give them cap room.

Mathews is also not going to increase his value having to fight for minutes with the Nuggets guards, if anything his minutes and production will decrease killing his already bad value.

Perhaps I am missing something, but Matthews is not a scrawny 6'5'' player. He can easily step into SF particularly in the "positionless" NBA.

Not saying that changes things, but it just feels like those 2k games where you can change the players trade value by just editing the player to change their position (and nothing else).

Just don't think this trade does much for Denver. Matthews plays more like a SG than a SF. We already have Barton who also is a SG that can play SF. Beyond that, this move just doesn't seem to benefit Denver in any serious manner. On the other hand, it won't destroy Denver and we would only seem to be losing a little value.

[Northern hoops]

Would Denver be interested in a package around Aldrich and a couple 2nds to dump Chandler's salary next year