All-Star Dwight Howard

[DeathLineup]

Dwight has had an All-Star worthy season. Charlotte are currently 13-22, 13th seed.

Which team should try to get him?

Dwight Howard - born 1985 - $23,500,000|$23,819,725 - 15.9 PPG|12.4 RPG|1.3 BLKPG

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[Chinook]

Used to think he and LMA would be a good fit. But Aldridge's game doesn't work well with a center. Still, I would have given Pau to ATL for him back in June when Gasol was still and expiring. Just has more upside.

[NYG]

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

[Domejandro]

I would trade Gorgui Dieng, Cole Aldrich, Shabazz Muhammad, and Oklahoma's 2018 First Round Draft Pick for Dwight Howard and Michael Carter-Williams. Gorgui would go back to being a double-double machine with increased minutes, and Minnesota would get the more physical player in Dwight Howard.

[Soulyss]

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

I don't think anyone from Portland will want Howard, I think they are content to ride this out with Nurkic.

[TGW]

I'd want him on the Wizards. Don't know what I'd offer though.

[BeesWax]

I think the problem with trading Dwight is getting anything of value for him. The Minny deal above isn't a very good deal for Charlotte but the value seems about there but the contracts are worse with the time left on Dieng and Shabazz expiring. The Bucks or Wizards could be interesting depending on what the deal is but it seems like you end up taking a smaller but longer contract for a lesser player which just doesn't seem very attractive. I guess it just depends on if there is any sweetener that a team would throw in.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

Toronto probably kicks the tires on a deal. Problem is Howard obviously is talented but to me has a ego problem or something along those lines. He's gone/been on really good teams and just regressed them. Look at what happened in Los Angeles, Orlando, Atlanta and Houston. He went to teams that had legit shots at making NBA Finals appearances or winning and turned them into less then successful teams.

If I am Toronto I am keeping guys like Jakob Poeltl OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, DeRozan, Lowry and Wright off the table plus future picks.

So unless they want say Fred VanVleet or Bebe Nogueira plus Jonas Valanciunas that's our best offer

[MoneyTalks41890]

Henson, Telly, Thon?

Leonard, Harkless, Swanigan, 1st?

[Jody Smokz]

The problem with Dwight since the end of his Orlando days was that he's been hellbent on proving that he can be a scoring option in the post instead of just continuing to excel at the things that made him great and still actually make him great and useful offensively.

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

Toronto probably kicks the tires on a deal. Problem is Howard obviously is talented but to me has a ego problem or something along those lines. He's gone/been on really good teams and just regressed them. Look at what happened in Los Angeles, Orlando, Atlanta and Houston. He went to teams that had legit shots at making NBA Finals appearances or winning and turned them into less then successful teams.

If I am Toronto I am keeping guys like Jakob Poeltl OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, DeRozan, Lowry and Wright off the table plus future picks.

So unless they want say Fred VanVleet or Bebe Nogueira plus Jonas Valanciunas that's our best offer

[shrink]

I think the problem with trading Dwight is getting anything of value for him. The Minny deal above isn't a very good deal for Charlotte but the value seems about there but the contracts are worse with the time left on Dieng and Shabazz expiring. The Bucks or Wizards could be interesting depending on what the deal is but it seems like you end up taking a smaller but longer contract for a lesser player which just doesn't seem very attractive. I guess it just depends on if there is any sweetener that a team would throw in.

I don't think MIN can do this deal anyway. I can't see them altering their plan to develop Towns as a stretch-5 by adding Howard. And if the Wolves added $18 mil in salary next season, the lux tax implications would be crushing.

[BeesWax]

The problem with Dwight since the end of his Orlando days was that he's been hellbent on proving that he can be a scoring option in the post instead of just continuing to excel at the things that made him great and still actually make him great and useful offensively.

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

Toronto probably kicks the tires on a deal. Problem is Howard obviously is talented but to me has a ego problem or something along those lines. He's gone/been on really good teams and just regressed them. Look at what happened in Los Angeles, Orlando, Atlanta and Houston. He went to teams that had legit shots at making NBA Finals appearances or winning and turned them into less then successful teams.

If I am Toronto I am keeping guys like Jakob Poeltl OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, DeRozan, Lowry and Wright off the table plus future picks.

So unless they want say Fred VanVleet or Bebe Nogueira plus Jonas Valanciunas that's our best offer

I think the big issue is he has to play on a team oriented team. He does his best when he is included in the goal of the offense and not as just a rebounded and shot blocker. He has shown this season when he gets some touches he can do damage and last night GS tried to double to take it away and he found the open man. He just needs to be included and he can contribute I think.

[pcbothwel]

Wait, the Center that is averaging twice as many turnovers as assist to give him a ORtg of 103? Guys like Capela, Jordan, Chandler, and Adams are in the 125-130 range. 103 is Mozgov-esque...

His -0.53 RPM ranks him 42nd among Centers... behind Asik, Miles Plumlee, and Joakim Noah

[pacers33granger]

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

I doubt we'd have any interest. He does things we could certainly use, but we would have to have some good incentive to cut that much into our cap space next season. It's also near impossible to match salaries. Jefferson/Bogdanovic (or Collison) does it but leaves us with a giant hole at SF (or PG).

[Mr Swagtastic]

The problem with Dwight since the end of his Orlando days was that he's been hellbent on proving that he can be a scoring option in the post instead of just continuing to excel at the things that made him great and still actually make him great and useful offensively.

Toronto probably kicks the tires on a deal. Problem is Howard obviously is talented but to me has a ego problem or something along those lines. He's gone/been on really good teams and just regressed them. Look at what happened in Los Angeles, Orlando, Atlanta and Houston. He went to teams that had legit shots at making NBA Finals appearances or winning and turned them into less then successful teams.

If I am Toronto I am keeping guys like Jakob Poeltl OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, DeRozan, Lowry and Wright off the table plus future picks.

So unless they want say Fred VanVleet or Bebe Nogueira plus Jonas Valanciunas that's our best offer

I think the big issue is he has to play on a team oriented team. He does his best when he is included in the goal of the offense and not as just a rebounded and shot blocker. He has shown this season when he gets some touches he can do damage and last night GS tried to double to take it away and he found the open man. He just needs to be included and he can contribute I think.

Again Toronto has 2 alpha dog scorers in DeRozan and Lowry and Ibaka seems to think he is that third option. I think I theory Howard's a upgrade here but will be want to be a non option here and that defender be should be? I think Toronto has okay pieces to move but does Charlotte want Jonas Valanciunas to pair with Kaminsky long term? Or want any of our scraps like Nogueira, Bruno, VanVleet or include Miles in a deal where they sent back Williams. I think it has to come down to Charlotte hitting the reset button and moving out Batum first

[BeesWax]

The problem with Dwight since the end of his Orlando days was that he's been hellbent on proving that he can be a scoring option in the post instead of just continuing to excel at the things that made him great and still actually make him great and useful offensively.

I think the big issue is he has to play on a team oriented team. He does his best when he is included in the goal of the offense and not as just a rebounded and shot blocker. He has shown this season when he gets some touches he can do damage and last night GS tried to double to take it away and he found the open man. He just needs to be included and he can contribute I think.

Again Toronto has 2 alpha dog scorers in DeRozan and Lowry and Ibaka seems to think he is that third option. I think I theory Howard's a upgrade here but will be want to be a non option here and that defender be should be? I think Toronto has okay pieces to move but does Charlotte want Jonas Valanciunas to pair with Kaminsky long term? Or want any of our scraps like Nogueira, Bruno, VanVleet or include Miles in a deal where they sent back Williams. I think it has to come down to Charlotte hitting the reset button and moving out Batum first

I don't think Charlotte would make that move with Toronto. There just isn't a bonus to doing it really. I wasn't arguing Toronto should want him as much as just arguing in the right situation he is a help. I don't see a good fit between Charlotte and Toronto personally.

[babyjax13]

Cleveland trades: IT, Tristain Thompson, 2018 CLE 1st, 2018 BYK 1st
Cleveland receives: Kemba Walker, Dwight Howard

Denver trades: 2018 1st, Emmanuel Mudiay, Juancho Hernangomez
Denver receives: IT

Charlotte trades: Kemba, Howard
Charlotte receives: 2018 DEN 1st, 2018 BYK 1st, 2018 CLE 1st, Tristain Thompson, Mudiay, Hernangomez

Not sure if this quite works salary wise, just a rough shot.

[BeesWax]

Cleveland trades: IT, Tristain Thompson, 2018 CLE 1st, 2018 BYK 1st
Cleveland receives: Kemba Walker, Dwight Howard

Denver trades: 2018 1st, Emmanuel Mudiay, Juancho Hernangomez
Denver receives: IT

Charlotte trades: Kemba, Howard
Charlotte receives: 2018 DEN 1st, 2018 BYK 1st, 2018 CLE 1st, Tristain Thompson, Mudiay, Hernangomez

Not sure if this quite works salary wise, just a rough shot.

Add Frye going out to Charlotte and the salaries would line up. Not sure how I feel about it but it could work.

[TheNewEra]

Indiana, Milwaukee, Portland and Toronto come to mind.

Toronto probably kicks the tires on a deal. Problem is Howard obviously is talented but to me has a ego problem or something along those lines. He's gone/been on really good teams and just regressed them. Look at what happened in Los Angeles, Orlando, Atlanta and Houston. He went to teams that had legit shots at making NBA Finals appearances or winning and turned them into less then successful teams.

If I am Toronto I am keeping guys like Jakob Poeltl OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, DeRozan, Lowry and Wright off the table plus future picks.

So unless they want say Fred VanVleet or Bebe Nogueira plus Jonas Valanciunas that's our best offer

-Didn’t Houston get a very rare conference finals appearance while Dwight was there ?

-With the Lakers wasn’t he hurt himself and carry a team to the playoffs with Nash and Kobe going down ?

-Atlanta was never a title contender they were about the same with Dwight

-Orlando there is no title appearance without Dwight.

[jayjaysee]

Cleveland trades: IT, Tristain Thompson, 2018 CLE 1st, 2018 BYK 1st
Cleveland receives: Kemba Walker, Dwight Howard

Denver trades: 2018 1st, Emmanuel Mudiay, Juancho Hernangomez
Denver receives: IT

Charlotte trades: Kemba, Howard
Charlotte receives: 2018 DEN 1st, 2018 BYK 1st, 2018 CLE 1st, Tristain Thompson, Mudiay, Hernangomez

Not sure if this quite works salary wise, just a rough shot.

I don't think IT has this value until he performs, and at that point his contract will be too short a rental.. Not even valuing Mudiay at all just Juancho and a first feels too strong.


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