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What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:18 pm
by Prokorov
What pick could Russell + 29 get in this draft?

Bulls #22?

Atlanta #19?

Bucks #17?

Clipeprs #12 or #13?

A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:22 pm
by babyjax13
Bucks at 17 seems as high as it could get you to me.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:24 pm
by Woody Allen
The issue that is Dangelo Russell's season didn't make any teams go "we need this guy!", due to both injury and really poor efficiency. Assuming ATL, for example, have a player at #19 that they like, they are not going to forgo it to acquire Russell. They'd only do it if all of their targets are gone, so this is a bit unlikely.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:25 pm
by Prokorov
babyjax13 wrote:Bucks at 17 seems as high as it could get you to me.


that would work. 21M in cap and the 17 pick. id do that

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:28 pm
by Woody Allen
Prokorov wrote:A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)


??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:28 pm
by jbk1234
Atlanta. I think Brogdon is better than Russel.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:30 pm
by TheBrooklynKidd
Woody Allen wrote:
Prokorov wrote:A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)


??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.


His cap hold is $21 million.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:57 pm
by babyjax13
jbk1234 wrote:Atlanta. I think Brogdon is better than Russel.


I think Brogdon and Russel would actually be a really nice pairing.

Russel-Brogdon-Middleton-Giannis-Henson is an interesting lineup. Better if they can swap Parker for a good center (Favors comes to mind immediately).

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:01 pm
by Woody Allen
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
Prokorov wrote:A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)


??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.


His cap hold is $21 million.


You can renounce it. Trading him isn't necessary. OP says trade would 'clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason'.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:08 pm
by Prokorov
Woody Allen wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.


His cap hold is $21 million.


You can renounce it. Trading him isn't necessary. OP says trade would 'clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason'.


it would clear the cap hold.

getting a draft pick for him > renouncing him is the mindset

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:10 pm
by Trader_Joe
How about what could Russell, RHJ + $6m in cap get us of picks/future picks/rookie deal contracts + expiring contracts?
I think we could take back up $15.5m or so in that scenario.

Goal would be

Dinwiddie ($1.6m cap hold)
LeVert ($2.6m)
Crabbe ($18.5)
Allen ($2.4)
Result of this trade
#29 (~$2m)
#40 (~$1m)
'19 #1 (~$5m)
D.Wont ($5.5m)
+
$68m in cap space - what we get here

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:18 pm
by TheNetsFan
Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:26 pm
by ejftw
Wouldn't consider 12 or 13 for that package. You'd need to add in RHJ, and then some.

Bucks would be an interesting target, as maybe would be Phoenix.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:03 pm
by DirtyDez
Phoenix for sure would be interested unless they can get into the top-10 and snag a PG.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:49 pm
by KnicksFury
I would just keep Russell. His value is really low right now and I don't see him losing that much more if they hold onto him. It's better to hope that he can raise his value in the first half of the season.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:23 am
by Prokorov
TheNetsFan wrote:Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.


getting a pick > getting nothing

trading him is better then renouncing him if we can get a good pick

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:35 am
by TheNetsFan
Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.


getting a pick > getting nothing

trading him is better then renouncing him if we can get a good pick

A mid-first is not a good enough pick. They're better off dumping Crabbe, signing 2 big FAs & resign Russell.

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:36 pm
by Prokorov
TheNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.


getting a pick > getting nothing

trading him is better then renouncing him if we can get a good pick

A mid-first is not a good enough pick. They're better off dumping Crabbe, signing 2 big FAs & resign Russell.


i dont think we can dump crabbe and get any kind of salary relief

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:43 pm
by dakomish23
babyjax13 wrote:Bucks at 17 seems as high as it could get you to me.


Maybe:

Delly 17

For

29

Re: What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:44 pm
by CelticsLV
Russell has very little value imo. Inefficient chucker for 3rd straight season, god awful defender. Not sure why they traded for him.