Bulls/Sixers

[MoneyTalks41890]

Portis, Rolo for Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, 2019 PHI 1st (lotto prot), 2019 CHI 2nd

Bulls get assets and clear the way for their young lotto pick bigs.

Sixers get good Embiid insurance and a stretch 4 to backup Saric.


Dunn/Payne/Bayless
LaVine/Holiday/Hutch
Anderson/Val/Zip
Markannen/Holmes
Carter/Felicio/Asik

Simmons/McConnell/Shamet
Redick/Fultz/TLC
Roco/Chandler/Zhaire/Korkmaz
Saric/Portis
Embiid/Rolo

[youngcrev]

I don't think anything the Bulls are giving up is worth a 1st round pick

[Kurt Heimlich]

While I do question if the Sixers would give up their pick here. It's the only realistic asset from them which I could see giving Portis up for.

You also forgot about Jabari (Zip is gone also) in your Bulls depth chart

[the_process]

Portis, Rolo for Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, 2019 PHI 1st (lotto prot), 2019 CHI 2nd

Bulls get assets and clear the way for their young lotto pick bigs.

Sixers get good Embiid insurance and a stretch 4 to backup Saric.

Counter: Portis and Lopez for Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, Luwawu, and 2019 PHI 1st (top 22 protected, if not conveyed becomes two 2nds)

[MoneyTalks41890]

While I do question if the Sixers would give up their pick here. It's the only realistic asset from them which I could see giving Portis up for.

You also forgot about Jabari (Zip is gone also) in your Bulls depth chart

Yeah my charts are pretty jacked up.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Portis, Rolo for Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, 2019 PHI 1st (lotto prot), 2019 CHI 2nd

Bulls get assets and clear the way for their young lotto pick bigs.

Sixers get good Embiid insurance and a stretch 4 to backup Saric.

Counter: Portis and Lopez for Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, Luwawu, and 2019 PHI 1st (top 22 protected, if not conveyed becomes two 2nds)

Yeah I mean reasonable counter. Maybe declining protections for one year but there are creative ways to get there.

[Alatan]

I don't think anything the Bulls are giving up is worth a 1st round pick

On the contrary. Philis package is really underwhelming. Portis has some talent and i wouldnt trade him for Philis 1st let alone take on Philis garbage contracts.

[youngcrev]

I don't think anything the Bulls are giving up is worth a 1st round pick

On the contrary. Philis package is really underwhelming. Portis has some talent and i wouldnt trade him for Philis 1st let alone take on Philis garbage contracts.

What garbage contracts? Bayless is expiring and the other 2 are on rookie deals. Obviously, Bayless at 8.5 for the year isn't a positive, but neither is Lopez at 14.3M

[Texas Chuck]

I don't think anything the Bulls are giving up is worth a 1st round pick

On the contrary. Philis package is really underwhelming. Portis has some talent and i wouldnt trade him for Philis 1st let alone take on Philis garbage contracts.

IDK, this deal gives the Bulls two top 40 picks and doesn't ask them to take on any future money. I'm struggling honestly to see how the Bulls could possibly do better giving up RoLo and Portis.

[ChettheJet]

Yeah your charts leave off what makes your trade pointless. The Bulls don't want a bunch of end of the benchers, they barely have room for them, they've got their own young players to give minutes to with none left over. Who knows why PHIL wants a $13+M backup for Embid.

But the Bulls have no desire to rush Carter into the starting lineup, let me check NONE and they want to get rid of Felicio not count on him as their backup 5. That's why including Portis in the deal is bad because he'd be ahead of Felicio. They aren't collecting bad contracts anymore so they don't want Bayless, Anderson would be behind not just Parker but Valentine as well. If Holmes is good enough to be a backup 4 then let PHIL play him there and they don't need Portis. This is just poor all around.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Yeah your charts leave off what makes your trade pointless. The Bulls don't want a bunch of end of the benchers, they barely have room for them, they've got their own young players to give minutes to with none left over. Who knows why PHIL wants a $13+M backup for Embid.

But the Bulls have no desire to rush Carter into the starting lineup, let me check NONE and they want to get rid of Felicio not count on him as their backup 5. That's why including Portis in the deal is bad because he'd be ahead of Felicio. They aren't collecting bad contracts anymore so they don't want Bayless, Anderson would be behind not just Parker but Valentine as well. If Holmes is good enough to be a backup 4 then let PHIL play him there and they don't need Portis. This is just poor all around.

This is a tanking team getting picks that will not resign Portis because he blocks the high picks idk what you're talking about honestly. Unless you want to give that pick to move Felicio no one is taking him, terrible deal.

[GimmeDat]

I don't get why Portis is so criminally underrated by so many people. He's a really talented player and could easily start somewhere. (re: no players coming back are worth a 1st comment).

Anyway, I think this deal is pretty solid. I'd do it for us. With our current roster it would look like -

Dunn / Payne / Bayless
Lavine / Valentine / Holiday
Parker / Hutchison / Anderson
Markkanen / (Parker)
Carter / Holmes

We should be able to milk some decent value out of Holmes because you'd expect us to play at a pretty high tempo and he'll just be able to play a pure rim running/energy role. The picks get the value over the line.

Counter: Portis and Lopez for Bayless, Holmes, Anderson, Luwawu, and 2019 PHI 1st (top 22 protected, if not conveyed becomes two 2nds)

I'd do that also. Was tempted to say only if Bolden is swapped in for one of the other guys, but I'd probably do it regardless. Though with RoLo and Portis both coming in maybe you prefer to send Bolden out anyway.

[BullyKing]

My only issue with this trade is that I only think its worth it if you see Portis as a long-term rotation piece. For the record, I do, and think he'd make a nice long-term pair with Saric at PF. The problem is that the Sixers would have a real hard time carving out both max cap space and maintaining his QO. It would be a definite yes for me if Portis had one extra rookie scale year left but since he doesn't, I think I'd have to pass.