Kings have $20.5M in room

K_chile22 · Post #21 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:39 pm

BallnIngram wrote:
jazzfan1971 wrote:Now that Sacramento is the last team with major cap, they could try to get Houston to give them a pick for NOT giving Capela an offer.

Call Houston and say, 'give us a 2nd and we won't give Capela the biggest, hardest to live with contract we can.'

If I'm Houston I understand that might be a bluff, but I'm paying a 2nd anyway.

thats legal?

I would guess not, the players union would be livid lol it's the same as wink wink signing deals which are illegal, but hard to prove and no one tries to because both parties are happy. Rockets would just report that to the league and they'd probably do something like make Capela off limits to Sacramento for a year or something

pcbothwel · Post #22 » by **pcbothwel** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:57 pm

blind prophet wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kosta Koufos for Melo+Asset would work, I believe.

Any idea how many roster spots OKC has right now? Curious on the max amount of players they could take on in a Melo swap without waiving anyone.

13.. so they could do 3 for 1.

I'd offer Shump & Koufos for Melo, Abirines, future protected 1st. Thats 15 mil in salary plus the lux tax savings. So somewhere around 100M in savings

rpa · Post #23 » by **rpa** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:03 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kosta Koufos for Melo+Asset would work, I believe.

What assets does OKC have, though?

Denver just gave up a lottery protected '19 pick in exchange for more useful players making less money. Earliest FRP OKC can offer is, what, 2021? 2022?

Post #24 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:18 pm

S&T Capela for WCS remains the most logical trade i can think of

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Post #25 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:21 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Now that Sacramento is the last team with major cap, they could try to get Houston to give them a pick for NOT giving Capela an offer.

Call Houston and say, 'give us a 2nd and we won't give Capela the biggest, hardest to live with contract we can.'

If I'm Houston I understand that might be a bluff, but I'm paying a 2nd anyway.

Just bully them out of a 2nd lol

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PaKwAn · Post #26 » by **PaKwAn** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:37 pm

if sac goes for capela then drafting bagley over luka would be an even bigger head scratcher. if capela gets paid way too much though, i would ask for willie as a s&t piece since he does a little bit of what capela can do. as long as willie accepts his role and not think he is a star then he will look good with harden and paul

gom · Post #27 » by **gom** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:02 pm

I like the option "Wait to absorb" and expect the bids for their cap space will improve at the trade deadline, so I chose "nothing" with the "for now" clause.

shrink · Post #28 » by **shrink** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:23 pm

Since SAC is win-later, the actual fit of a Capella signing wouldn’t hurt them as bad as some other teams, if they can make trades soon. Any player you can sign to a positive contract is an asset, and one way SAC could use the leverage of being the last team with money is to sign some good deals for some desperate free agents.

To me though, they may be able to make better profit by waiting

Post #29 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:25 pm

gom wrote:I like the option "Wait to absorb" and expect the bids for their cap space will improve at the trade deadline, so I chose "nothing" with the "for now" clause.

Other than the Wiz I’m not sure who is going to be trying to move salary then. Supply is down but so is demand.

wolves_89 · Post #30 » by **wolves_89** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:35 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
gom wrote:I like the option "Wait to absorb" and expect the bids for their cap space will improve at the trade deadline, so I chose "nothing" with the "for now" clause.

Other than the Wiz I’m not sure who is going to be trying to move salary then. Supply is down but so is demand.

I think there are only 5 teams over the luxury tax line (GSW, OKC, POR, TOR, and WAS) with the Rockets likely to join the group when Capela is signed. Of those teams I'm guessing GSW, OKC, and HOU won't be looking to shed salary leaving only POR, TOR, and WAS as teams who might be interested in trading assets to dump contracts. Maybe another couple of teams look to do a minor salary dump, but those would be small deals (no 1sts involved).

LarsV8 · Post #31 » by **LarsV8** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:22 am

Nice of Sac to open up enough room to absorb Anderson with cap space.

youngthegiant · Post #32 » by **youngthegiant** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:16 am

They should just give a big one year offer to Rodney Hood.

DeathLineup · Post #33 » by **DeathLineup** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:30 am

youngthegiant wrote:They should just give a big one year offer to Rodney Hood.

Damn. That’s genius, man.

This is a really, really good idea for Kings.

LakersSoul · Post #34 » by **LakersSoul** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:44 am

DeathLineup wrote:
youngthegiant wrote:They should just give a big one year offer to Rodney Hood.

Damn. That’s genius, man.

This is a really, really good idea for Kings.

RFA
They have to offer at least a 2 year deal and Cavs have right of refusal

tviper · Post #35 » by **tviper** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:50 am

getting ready to facilitate the trade with the Lakers and SA, absorbing Deng's contract for compensation

DeathLineup · Post #36 » by **DeathLineup** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:54 am

LakersSoul wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:
youngthegiant wrote:They should just give a big one year offer to Rodney Hood.

Damn. That’s genius, man.

This is a really, really good idea for Kings.

RFA
They have to offer at least a 2 year deal and Cavs have right of refusal

Make the second year a team option or non-guaranteed?

That will do it, right?

dorkestra · Post #37 » by **dorkestra** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:55 am

tviper wrote:getting ready to facilitate the trade with the Lakers and SA, absorbing Deng's contract for compensation

Would have to be damn good compensation. Ball doesnt fit. At least Ingram or Kuzma would be needed to offset Deng. At which point, what are the Lakers giving the Spurs, who also have no interest in Ball?

red96 · Post #38 » by **red96** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:17 am

BallnIngram wrote:
jazzfan1971 wrote:Now that Sacramento is the last team with major cap, they could try to get Houston to give them a pick for NOT giving Capela an offer.

Call Houston and say, 'give us a 2nd and we won't give Capela the biggest, hardest to live with contract we can.'

If I'm Houston I understand that might be a bluff, but I'm paying a 2nd anyway.

thats legal?

Of course not. But you know, instead of threatening Morey, Vlade could actually work with Morey to get the Kings the asset. The Kings offer Capela a team friendly contract that the Rockets would love to match. Followed by a deal that is favorable to the Kings like an overpay for dumping Anderson. Of course, this is all highly illegal.

tviper · Post #39 » by **tviper** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:50 am

dorkestra wrote:
tviper wrote:getting ready to facilitate the trade with the Lakers and SA, absorbing Deng's contract for compensation

Would have to be damn good compensation. Ball doesnt fit. At least Ingram or Kuzma would be needed to offset Deng. At which point, what are the Lakers giving the Spurs, who also have no interest in Ball?

no idea, just throwing it out as a possibility for use of the space. doubt LAL would be trading players to SAC more like picks. As for SA, there hasn't been much in the way of credible information, so kind of a mystery who they would want or who LAL would be willing to give up.

LakersSoul · Post #40 » by **LakersSoul** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:47 am

DeathLineup wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:
DeathLineup wrote:Damn. That’s genius, man.

This is a really, really good idea for Kings.

RFA
They have to offer at least a 2 year deal and Cavs have right of refusal

Make the second year a team option or non-guaranteed?

That will do it, right?

No. 2 years guaranteed and 3rd year option but if so then Cavs will match. You have to poison the deal and make it hard for Cavs to match which might work against the offer sheet team.

What are the Kings going to do?