My Philly Sac deal

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My Philly Sac deal 

Post#1 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:38 pm

Philly out/Sac in: Bayless Holmes
Philly in/Sac out: Kofous

Sac gets a prospect and cuts Bayless (or keeps him).
Philly gets a vet center (I think pf is set as is)
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#2 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:41 pm

I'm completely underwhelmed, but I have no objection to it :) Would Amir see minutes at the 4?
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#3 » by loserX » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:41 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Philly out/Sac in: Bayless Holmes
Philly in/Sac out: Kofous

Sac gets a prospect and cuts Bayless (or keeps him).
Philly gets a vet center (I think pf is set as is)


Seems about right but if I'm Sacramento I don't want another big man prospect (Bagley/Skal/Giles/WCS). The wing guys seem to make more sense for both teams if they can agree on value.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#4 » by becorz » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:48 pm

I mean, isn't any trade like this kind of waiting on Leonard? If the Sixers are the team going after him, I think that Sacramento will get involved in the trade to help with the salary, right?
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#5 » by wolves_89 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:53 pm

Replacing Holmes with a decent 2nd round pick (return SAC their own 2019 2nd?) seems like a better option. With the Kings glut of bigs I don't see Holmes getting any minutes.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#6 » by Chris76 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:27 pm

loserX wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Philly out/Sac in: Bayless Holmes
Philly in/Sac out: Kofous

Sac gets a prospect and cuts Bayless (or keeps him).
Philly gets a vet center (I think pf is set as is)


Seems about right but if I'm Sacramento I don't want another big man prospect (Bagley/Skal/Giles/WCS). The wing guys seem to make more sense for both teams if they can agree on value.


Holmes looked good next to Embiid. A weak side rim protector that dunks everything. He didn't get much time as a PF.

Sixers could use a young backup center, WCS or Labissiere.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#7 » by GutUNC » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:35 pm

becorz wrote:I mean, isn't any trade like this kind of waiting on Leonard? If the Sixers are the team going after him, I think that Sacramento will get involved in the trade to help with the salary, right?


Why would someone need to get involved to help with salary?
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#8 » by the_process » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:42 pm

loserX wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Philly out/Sac in: Bayless Holmes
Philly in/Sac out: Kofous

Sac gets a prospect and cuts Bayless (or keeps him).
Philly gets a vet center (I think pf is set as is)


Seems about right but if I'm Sacramento I don't want another big man prospect (Bagley/Skal/Giles/WCS). The wing guys seem to make more sense for both teams if they can agree on value.


Holmes can swapped for Luwawu with little difficulty at SAC’s preference.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#9 » by becorz » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:06 pm

GutUNC wrote:
becorz wrote:I mean, isn't any trade like this kind of waiting on Leonard? If the Sixers are the team going after him, I think that Sacramento will get involved in the trade to help with the salary, right?


Why would someone need to get involved to help with salary?

I guess what I wrote was incorrect. The rumor a number of Kings fans have been running with is that the Spurs don't particularly want Covington, but he would need to be part of this deal for salary purposes. So, the Kings would taken on Covington, maybe throwing in a second rounder. Or, they might take on Bayless in the same trade, allowing the Sixers more roster flexibility (which doesn't make sense to me, given that the Sixers need like a 3 for 1 to get Leonard).
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Post#10 » by City of Trees » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:29 pm

the_process wrote:
loserX wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Philly out/Sac in: Bayless Holmes
Philly in/Sac out: Kofous

Sac gets a prospect and cuts Bayless (or keeps him).
Philly gets a vet center (I think pf is set as is)


Seems about right but if I'm Sacramento I don't want another big man prospect (Bagley/Skal/Giles/WCS). The wing guys seem to make more sense for both teams if they can agree on value.


Holmes can swapped for Luwawu with little difficulty at SAC’s preference.
Yeah getting a wing instead of a ANOTHER big makes sense.


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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#11 » by dorkestra » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:37 pm

Koufos for Luwawu-Cabarrot (who has length to play SF) and Bayless (expiring)? Yeah I would be down for that trade. Seems to make sense unless Kings would hope for more back from Koufos.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#12 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:00 pm

becorz wrote:
GutUNC wrote:
becorz wrote:I mean, isn't any trade like this kind of waiting on Leonard? If the Sixers are the team going after him, I think that Sacramento will get involved in the trade to help with the salary, right?


Why would someone need to get involved to help with salary?

I guess what I wrote was incorrect. The rumor a number of Kings fans have been running with is that the Spurs don't particularly want Covington, but he would need to be part of this deal for salary purposes. So, the Kings would taken on Covington, maybe throwing in a second rounder. Or, they might take on Bayless in the same trade, allowing the Sixers more roster flexibility (which doesn't make sense to me, given that the Sixers need like a 3 for 1 to get Leonard).


Chandler and Bayless do it fine salarywise. Taking an expiring doesn’t effect SAS — they are between the cap and tax wher Roy has no opportunity cost. So any involvement would be Sas just spending assets to save money while dumping their star player, which would be bad optics and certainly not necessary.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#13 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:34 pm

dorkestra wrote:Koufos for Luwawu-Cabarrot (who has length to play SF) and Bayless (expiring)? Yeah I would be down for that trade. Seems to make sense unless Kings would hope for more back from Koufos.


I don't see how they could get more for Koufos. And it might be hard to even get much different as I would expect his market is relatively small. Not meant to be a criticism of him--I think he's a fine backup big and a guy could make some spot starts on Embiid rest nights.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#14 » by PhillyNj » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:02 am

The sixers have no use for Kufos held never see the court. Most likely just get cut.
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Re: My Philly Sac deal 

Post#15 » by HartfordWhalers » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:08 am

I get everyone saying make it TLC, but Im not going to.

Instead send Holmes to team 3 for the best 2nd that can go to Sac.

Lakers? They could really use him at center, and he has no ramifications for next years cap if that is the desired route.
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Post#16 » by City of Trees » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:24 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:I get everyone saying make it TLC, but Im not going to.

Instead send Holmes to team 3 for the best 2nd that can go to Sac.

Lakers? They could really use him at center, and he has no ramifications for next years cap if that is the desired route.
Koufos for Bayless/2nd works for me. Kings need PG depth and I'm not sold on Frank Mason. Kings save roughly $200K plus add a 2nd to even out their roster. I say yes.

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