Butler to NYK?

Northern hoops · Post #1 » by **Northern hoops** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:59 pm

There have obviously been conversations about Butler and Kyrie teaming up in New York next year, but there have been some signs that Butler could be headed East earlier

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Obviously not the same as a source like Woj or Shams, but what do you think a feasible package is for Butler from the Knicks?

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #2 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:12 pm

Courtney Lee, Frank, Mudiay and two first.

BowlRips · Post #3 » by **BowlRips** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:13 pm

It's really hard to say from a Knicks perspective.
I wouldn't want to part with any significant asset, let alone impact future cap space.
I do think NY would consider a deal that allowed them to retain a max slot in the summer of 2019.
That would mean the deal would have to include THJ/Courtney
Would something like THJ/Courtney Lee and a 2019 1st rounder be enough?
Will Thibs consider taking on Noah?

Post #4 » by **loserX** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:14 pm

Northern hoops wrote:Obviously not the same as a source like Woj or Shams, but what do you think a feasible package is for Butler from the Knicks?

Tough to see a fit. Wolves would obviously ask for Knox and I'm not sure how that would go over. Ntilikina+picks+salary relief off Dieng? Dunno.

Post #5 » by **Trader_Joe** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:17 pm

Put this on the GB.

Any trade needs to maintain Max cap in 2019.

Lee, Hardaway, Frank N., M. Robinson, '19 #1, '20 #2 via CHA
for
Butler, Gibson

Stretch Noah next off-season.

Irving / Burke
Butler / Baker
Knox
Porzingis
Kornet

Northern hoops · Post #6 » by **Northern hoops** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:19 pm

BowlRips wrote:It's really hard to say from a Knicks perspective.
I wouldn't want to part with any significant asset, let alone impact future cap space.
I do think NY would consider a deal that allowed them to retain a max slot in the summer of 2019.
That would mean the deal would have to include THJ/Courtney
Would something like THJ/Courtney Lee and a 2019 1st rounder be enough?
Will Thibs consider taking on Noah?

From a Wolves fan's perspective, the only way I'd trade Jimmy to the Knicks this summer is if Porzingas is on the table: Something like Jimmy/Taj for KP/Lee/Noah. I think there is a significant gap in value between KP and the Knicks' other assets. Of course this changes if the Wolves struggle early in the season and Jimmy indicates he's leaving.

BowlRips · Post #7 » by **BowlRips** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:20 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:Put this on the GB.

Any trade needs to maintain Max cap in 2019.

Lee, Hardaway, Frank N., M. Robinson, '19 #1, '20 #2 via CHA
for
Butler, Gibson

Stretch Noah next off-season.

Irving / Burke
Butler / Baker
Knox
Porzingis
Kornet

Not saying its not fair but I can't see the Knicks dumping Frank Ntilikina and Mitchell Robinson for 1 season of Jimmy Butler with Porzingis being out..

Post #8 » by **Trader_Joe** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:21 pm

BowlRips wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:Put this on the GB.

Any trade needs to maintain Max cap in 2019.

Lee, Hardaway, Frank N., M. Robinson, '19 #1, '20 #2 via CHA
for
Butler, Gibson

Stretch Noah next off-season.

Irving / Burke
Butler / Baker
Knox
Porzingis
Kornet

Not saying its not fair but I can't see the Knicks dumping Frank Ntilikina and Mitchell Robinson for 1 season of Jimmy Butler with Porzingis being out..

They are also clearing TJ and Lee creating space for two max FAs next summer. That has to be done, if they want to sign 2 stars. I also can't see Minny settling for less or not finding a better offer if this was downgraded.

Rubio9Guy · Post #9 » by **Rubio9Guy** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:24 pm

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villematic32 · Post #10 » by **villematic32** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:25 pm

That's too much to give up for someone who could potentially end up being a one year rental. Do you think maybe the Knicks should hold out until FA? If Butler's interest is legitimate in NY, I believe you save your assets and try and sign him July 1st. Along with another star.

Northern hoops · Post #11 » by **Northern hoops** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:29 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:Put this on the GB.

Any trade needs to maintain Max cap in 2019.

Lee, Hardaway, Frank N., M. Robinson, '19 #1, '20 #2 via CHA
for
Butler, Gibson

Stretch Noah next off-season.

Irving / Burke
Butler / Baker
Knox
Porzingis
Kornet

I think if the Wolves do trade Butler for a lesser package such as this, they won't want to take on long-term salary like Hardaway's contract. I also can't see them trading Taj, without a PF coming back.

Northern hoops · Post #12 » by **Northern hoops** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:31 pm

villematic32 wrote:That's too much to give up for someone who could potentially end up being a one year rental. Do you think maybe the Knicks should hold out until FA? If Butler's interest is legitimate in NY, I believe you save your assets and try and sign him July 1st. Along with another star.

They don't have the cap space to sign two maxes currently and then you put yourself in a possible PG13 situation

SARGO127 · Post #13 » by **SARGO127** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:32 pm

Makes no sense for either team honestly.

KnickFan33 · Post #14 » by **KnickFan33** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:33 pm

Rubio9Guy wrote:

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Thank you! Had me worried for a moment. Trying to trade for Butler would be going against the mantra of player development and hurt the tank.

Dez · Post #15 » by **Dez** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:21 am

BowlRips wrote:It's really hard to say from a Knicks perspective.
I wouldn't want to part with any significant asset, let alone impact future cap space.
I do think NY would consider a deal that allowed them to retain a max slot in the summer of 2019.
That would mean the deal would have to include THJ/Courtney
Would something like THJ/Courtney Lee and a 2019 1st rounder be enough?
Will Thibs consider taking on Noah?

You don't want to trade anything good but want Butler?

Then throw a garbage deal of THJ/Lee and a crappy 1st for Butler?

Then ask if the Wolves would take on the garbage contract of Noah?

To get value you have to give value and nothing you offered there is valuable.

Ballerhogger · Post #16 » by **Ballerhogger** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:14 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Frank , lance and Lee and 1st rounder ? Your going have to give up assets if your the Knicks

Ell Curry · Post #17 » by **Ell Curry** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:24 am

Trader_Joe wrote:Put this on the GB.

Any trade needs to maintain Max cap in 2019.

Lee, Hardaway, Frank N., M. Robinson, '19 #1, '20 #2 via CHA
for
Butler, Gibson

Stretch Noah next off-season.

Irving / Burke
Butler / Baker
Knox
Porzingis
Kornet

Put some respeck on Lance Thomas' name.

nykballa2k4 · Post #18 » by **nykballa2k4** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:38 am

Rubio9Guy wrote:

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good.

If we were to get Butler it would be Marbury/Melo all over.

SaintS · Post #19 » by **SaintS** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:09 am

For sure it's a fake rumors, but................

Twolves trade JB only if they understand that he'll decline theur offer in summer. He and Tibs knows each other very well and have a huge respect. I think JB 'll inform Thibs if he won't stay in Twolves.

NYK untouchible Porzy.

In this way may be i agree for this scenario

Hardway + Ntilinka + Thomas + Knox + 1st round pick OR Lee + Ntilinka + Thomas + Knox + 1st round pick + Baker
for
JB + Dieng

Understood that this trade is 2 steps back in cpmparison with current status of a team, but looks lika an only package which NYK can offer.

K_chile22 · Post #20 » by **K_chile22** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:42 am

Just FYI, that Legion Hoops guy is constantly full of it. He just makes up random rumors all the time.