Bulls -Kings- blazers ( solving all issues)
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Bulls trade -
- Omer Asik
- Christano Felicio
- Future 2nd rd pick
Bulls get -
- Even Turner
Why? They get rid of their clutter on centers and get Turner who either start SF or help run the 2nd team offense, if Dunn gets hurt I don’t trust Cam Payne to run the offense and this helps up get max money in 2019- 2020 and get out of Felicos contract
Blazers trade -
- Meyers Leonard
- Even Turner
Blazers get-
- Zack Randolph
- Ben Maclamore
- Christano Felcio
-2019 1st rd pick. ( lottery Protected this year , top 20 next year and then it turns into 2 2nd rd picks
Why? They clear bout 17 million in cap room for next year and save 2 million this year and sucks they have to take on Felcio contract but that’s the price I have to pay
Kings trade -
Ben Maclamore
- Zack Randolph
Kings get -
- Omer Asik
- Meyers Leonard
- future bulls 2nd rd pick
- Por 1st rd pick lottery Protected this year top 20 next year and then it turns into 2 2nd rd picks
Why? Take a chance on getting a 1st rd pick, Asik can be bought out for 3 million next year and Leonard expires after next year, use their exp to get some assets and open up more playing time for young guys !
Thoughts ? There’s lots of options to switch players around here but I think these 3 teams can help each other out
- Omer Asik
- Christano Felicio
- Future 2nd rd pick
Bulls get -
- Even Turner
Why? They get rid of their clutter on centers and get Turner who either start SF or help run the 2nd team offense, if Dunn gets hurt I don’t trust Cam Payne to run the offense and this helps up get max money in 2019- 2020 and get out of Felicos contract
Blazers trade -
- Meyers Leonard
- Even Turner
Blazers get-
- Zack Randolph
- Ben Maclamore
- Christano Felcio
-2019 1st rd pick. ( lottery Protected this year , top 20 next year and then it turns into 2 2nd rd picks
Why? They clear bout 17 million in cap room for next year and save 2 million this year and sucks they have to take on Felcio contract but that’s the price I have to pay
Kings trade -
Ben Maclamore
- Zack Randolph
Kings get -
- Omer Asik
- Meyers Leonard
- future bulls 2nd rd pick
- Por 1st rd pick lottery Protected this year top 20 next year and then it turns into 2 2nd rd picks
Why? Take a chance on getting a 1st rd pick, Asik can be bought out for 3 million next year and Leonard expires after next year, use their exp to get some assets and open up more playing time for young guys !
Thoughts ? There’s lots of options to switch players around here but I think these 3 teams can help each other out
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I think the trade would be decent for the Kings, but you would have to lower the protection on that pick in future years. It too easily can become a second round pick
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Portland is not trading rotation players and a 1st for garbage. Cutting this salary doesn't allow the Blazers to sign anyone (still over the cap) so what is the point?
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Soulyss wrote:Portland is not trading rotation players and a 1st for garbage. Cutting this salary doesn't allow the Blazers to sign anyone (still over the cap) so what is the point?
not so fast
this trade cuts about 12M in salary and tax off of this year's cap; and it cuts about 22M off of next year's salary base...that's significant. And while Turner and Meyers could be called "rotation" players, they are at the bottom of the rotation...hardly irreplaceable.
and, unfortunately, Paul Allen is no longer the owner so the standard equation of cap vs draft picks is no longer certain. This trade would clean off the 2 worst contracts still on the Blazer books and that might be a priority of interim management setting the team up for sale
the biggest problem is it's a 2 for 3 trade and Portland is already at the roster limit. But that's easily solved...Kings keep Mclemore and then, Portland drops under the tax threshold
I approve of that revised version
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Wizenheimer wrote:Soulyss wrote:Portland is not trading rotation players and a 1st for garbage. Cutting this salary doesn't allow the Blazers to sign anyone (still over the cap) so what is the point?
not so fast
this trade cuts about 12M in salary and tax off of this year's cap; and it cuts about 22M off of next year's salary base...that's significant. And while Turner and Meyers could be called "rotation" players, they are at the bottom of the rotation...hardly irreplaceable.
and, unfortunately, Paul Allen is no longer the owner so the standard equation of cap vs draft picks is no longer certain. This trade would clean off the 2 worst contracts still on the Blazer books and that might be a priority of interim management setting the team up for sale
the biggest problem is it's a 2 for 3 trade and Portland is already at the roster limit. But that's easily solved...Kings keep Mclemore and then, Portland drops under the tax threshold
I approve of that revised version
am I misreading something - the OP's trade has POR receiving a 1st NOT giving one up, and agree we don't want McLemore
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Blazinaway wrote:Wizenheimer wrote:Soulyss wrote:Portland is not trading rotation players and a 1st for garbage. Cutting this salary doesn't allow the Blazers to sign anyone (still over the cap) so what is the point?
not so fast
this trade cuts about 12M in salary and tax off of this year's cap; and it cuts about 22M off of next year's salary base...that's significant. And while Turner and Meyers could be called "rotation" players, they are at the bottom of the rotation...hardly irreplaceable.
and, unfortunately, Paul Allen is no longer the owner so the standard equation of cap vs draft picks is no longer certain. This trade would clean off the 2 worst contracts still on the Blazer books and that might be a priority of interim management setting the team up for sale
the biggest problem is it's a 2 for 3 trade and Portland is already at the roster limit. But that's easily solved...Kings keep Mclemore and then, Portland drops under the tax threshold
I approve of that revised version
am I misreading something - the OP's trade has POR receiving a 1st NOT giving one up, and agree we don't want McLemore
Portland receives a lottery protected 1st(from Chicago I believe) that becomes a top 20 protected in 2020 then 2 seconds starting in 2021. Portland sends out their their first as well with the same protections. The difference is in likelihood of being conveyed in 2019(minimal Portland receives Chicago's first and pretty good conveys their own in 2019)
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scottyg wrote:Bulls trade -
- Omer Asik
- Christano Felicio
- Future 2nd rd pick
Bulls get -
- Even Turner
Why? They get rid of their clutter on centers and get Turner who either start SF or help run the 2nd team offense, if Dunn gets hurt I don’t trust Cam Payne to run the offense and this helps up get max money in 2019- 2020 and get out of Felicos contract
Blazers trade -
- Meyers Leonard
- Even Turner
- 2019 1st rd pick. ( lottery Protected this year , top 20 next year and then it turns into 2 2nd rd picks
Blazers get-
- Zack Randolph
- Ben Maclamore
- Christano Felcio
Why? They clear bout 17 million in cap room for next year and save 2 million this year and sucks they have to take on Felcio contract but that’s the price I have to pay
Kings trade -
Ben Maclamore
- Zack Randolph
Kings get -
- Omer Asik
- Meyers Leonard
- future bulls 2nd rd pick
- Por 1st rd pick lottery Protected this year top 20 next year and then it turns into 2 2nd rd picks
Why? Take a chance on getting a 1st rd pick, Asik can be bought out for 3 million next year and Leonard expires after next year, use their exp to get some assets and open up more playing time for young guys !
Thoughts ? There’s lots of options to switch players around here but I think these 3 teams can help each other out
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I updated it and no Portland does not receive any picks, they send one out
- I also thought bout making a Mo Harkless for Iman Shumpert swap and give the blazer 11 million more in cap space to justify the 1st rd pick and give Sacramento a young SF to build on !
- I also thought bout making a Mo Harkless for Iman Shumpert swap and give the blazer 11 million more in cap space to justify the 1st rd pick and give Sacramento a young SF to build on !
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The OP isn't bad...as a Blazer fan, I'd have to think about it, but I'd probably be in favor. I would worry about the Blazer Center depth. It leaves Nurkic and Collins as the only two players on the Blazer roster above 6'9".
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Felicio is 6”9 -270
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zzaj wrote:The OP isn't bad...as a Blazer fan, I'd have to think about it, but I'd probably be in favor. I would worry about the Blazer Center depth. It leaves Nurkic and Collins as the only two players on the Blazer roster above 6'9".
How bout subbing Koufus for Zach? gives Blazers some insurance at C and he's an 8 mil expiring who will see limited to no minutes with all Sacs bigs
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I don’t think it matters, as long as the bulls get Turner and get out Felcios contract and the blazers get useful players that are expiring contracts and the Kings get draft picks !
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I don't mind it for Portland. I'd like it more if it is two years of top 20 protected, but this is fine.
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No thanks. Thus does nothing for Sac but give our cap space to Portland for maybe a crappy pick.
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For the Bulls. Great to ditch Asik and Felicio all at once and get an actual player in return. The problem really isn't even Turner's contract. It's that they clear the centers that they don't want, even if it appears the may just cut Asik loose and not care about his contract, but they end up with too many wing players and not enough minutes. When Valentine is ready to play and Markkanen returns they have Markkanen and Portis at the 4, Parker, Turner and Holiday at the 3 with Valentine and Hutchison behind Lavine at the 2. And with Dunn out they're woefully short at the PG.
So this solves one problem for the Bulls, leaves another and creates a third.
So this solves one problem for the Bulls, leaves another and creates a third.
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